Carl M (Login xxxlll) from IP address 207.162.163.21
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Has anyone tried the P5 Magnum pistol?
I just purchased one and it is lots of fun to shoot. It seems to shoot very hard but 700 ft. per sec. is hard to believe. I don't have a chrony yet. A chrony will probably be my next toy.
A friend and new to airgunning picked that model for his first pistol out of the catalogue from AGE and I think Ill have to have one. His came rated 550 fps and I doubt that will happen because I think I have already read where they are closer to 450 or 500 fps. It is a jump up from the 5 or 6 G's and this trigger was great. I think its a keeper and I like the finish also. I think its the same thats on my Walther S&W pistols. Goood shooting.
what was truly interesting was that the muzzle energy declined significantly as the pellet weight increased -- this means something to those well versed in the innards of springers. I did similar testing on my gamo shadow 1000 -- and found that energy declines as pellet weight increases, but not by such a significant factor.
so, what do I shoot -- gamo match and gamo hunters and cpl's -- the price per shot is much more reasonable and the drop in velocity is not a big deal as I don't use it for hunting anyway.
I've seen a few differnt writings about the 5GM/P5/5GFO Magnum that showed a drop in energy with heavier pellets. Mine produces an almost even 4.7ft/lbs with every pellet I use. I've tried a few types of light match pellets, RWS Superdomes and JSB Exacts. The energy hovers between 4.69 and 4.75ft/lbs which is more consistant than I expected.
You are quite right. The 5 Magnum has been found to be substantially hotter than the basic 5G, but nowhere near 700 fps.
I have never seen one of these, but it is interesting to note that the 5G has quite a bit of empty space at the rear of the receiver tube. This is because the same basic tube is used for the model 6G double-piston recoilless gun. I suspect the 5M simply has a longer spring and piston stroke that uses some of this surplus capacity.
I've used my P5 extensively since getting it and an IZH 46 for Xmas. Its very accurate; I use a modified 2 hand combat type grip and with my hand braced it will consistently shoot a < 1 " 5 shot group at 25 yards. It has dispatched 3 large rats and a dozen starlings in a few months. I wish it had more power. The firing cycle is very mild and consistent. Its a great plinker and small vermin control tool. I wonder if a stronger spring can be installed to increase the power to the 7 ft-# range?
Great to see you have both the p5 and the izh 46. I have been considering the p5, izh46 and the p1. The p1 is now off the list and it would be great if you could compare the p5 and izh.
Both the IZH 46m and the P5 are excellent air pistols that seem optimized for their respective target shooting or plinking functions. The IZH is almost as powerful as the P5 and only slightly more accurate in my hands; But I am not a 10m target shooter just a plinker so the P5 has a more familiar grip and a far better balance to me. The P5's fiber optic sights allow quicker target aquisition during field conditions (pest control)and it does not seem to be very springer hold sensitive to me. It is truly an effective light vermin control pistol for me out to 30 yards. Mine shoots <1" 5 shot groups at 25 yards with walmart copperhead hunting pellets. it also likes beeman Trophy pellets almost as much. This is with a 2 hand hold and my elbows resting on a picnic table. It would be awesome it it really shot at 700 feet per second not 463 fps. I Shoot the P5 more often than the IZH cause its just more fun. Both are precisely made and finished and worth the money. Good shooting, Tom
I have buy this week also a P5 Magnum. And i have a problem. When i have shoot, the two screws (58) comming los, and the barrel weight (54) comming los from the barrel !!
Have you also this problem ??
Frank
Belgium
Yep, had that problem. Solved it w/ Loctite. one could use nearly any thread locking product. Loctite is available at any/every hardware store in appropriately small containers. Look closely -- there is another screw that loosens up -- the one holding the plastic frame to the metal housing (you can see it after removing the grips). A general concensus is that loctite or its ilk should be in the toolbox of every airgunner!
OK, so you would ask, why don't the mfg's do this in the factory or use Nylok bolts?
I have an RWS 5GN (nickel) purchased about 5 years ago in mint shape. It's advertised with a 450FPS velocity, I'm looking to get rid of it, any idea how much I can get for it?
