Wondering if anyone has used a peep on the 24, and if so, what kind/ where obtained? A gunsmith suggested that having sights on a movable barrel might not be worth the attempt to refine the sight picture since the barrel may have subtle changes in lockup position.

Any thought are appreciated.

John

in an RWS rifle. I own several, including a 24. They are well built. My 24 is very consistent with it's POI. A problem you may encounter with a rear mounted peep, is the barrel droop. I remember reading a post about someone not being able to raise the front sight high enough to compensate.

Heck just use the original sights, or scope it. I have a 3-12-44 on mine and it's a tack driver!

Good luck,
Rob

Thanks Rob,

I had it scoped as well. This is to be used for 4h shooting club and only open sights are allowed. We have a few Daisy target rifles that use the rear peep and they are very nice to shoot. Wanted to add a peep as a way of not spending 2 bills on a Daisy.

Any thoughts about a source for a peep?

Hello,
I've never owned a 24 but I see no reason why you could not mount a peep. I have a beeman sport aperature on my r7 and it's awesome! At typical airgun ranges you really give up very little, if you can see it you can hit it with peep.Heck, I can usually hit an aspirin tablet at 20 yards with mine, and my best three shot group is .18 ctc at that distance! In low light you will be at a disadvantage, however.
If someone can mount a scope on one a peep should work too.Check out Brownells they should have a peep that would work. Mine is marked beeman but I believe it's made by Williams.
Best,
Rooney

With all due respect to your gunsmith, firearm guys typically don't know beans about airguns. Of course you can use an aperture sight on a break-barrel rifle--I only have about a dozen of these! Below is an article I previously wrote about William-made sporter sights.

Note also that any Diana or Anschutz match sight will also fit the model 24--this is a whole different world of precision, and often you can find such sights used as cheap as a new Williams (Ebay, gunshows, etc.).

Well, on to the old article:

I was just browsing the Williams catalog online (you can view or download the whole thing in PDF at: http://www.williamsgunsight.com/PDF/2005catalog.pdf ), and was pleasantly surprised to see there are no less than eight models that will work on airguns.

The FP series has click-adjusting elevation and windage knobs. The FP-AG is the model also sold by Beeman for many years, and features the famous lateral-sliding dovetail mount that will fit virtually any gun with a grooved receiver. It is available with either flush screw adjusters (FP-AG) or with target knobs (FP-AG TK).

The FP-GR is the same basic design and mount, but configured for a lower sight line. Also available with target knobs as FP-GR TK. These are intended more for rimfires, but if you have an airgun that the peep won't adjust low enough on, check these out.

The 5D series has simpler elevation and windage adjustments, you just slide them and then tighten a locking screw--NO click knobs (the 5D-SH for the Benjamin-Sheridan guns has been around for decades). There are NEW 5D models with the same versatile sliding dovetail mount as the FP-GR. These also come in high sight line (5D-AG) and low sight line (5D-GR) versions.

The WGRS-54 is an extremely compact sight that has a fixed mount for an 11mm grooved receiver. Specifically it is designed for Anschutz but can probably be modified for a lot of other guns--Diana, Walther, and post-1980 HW all have about the same groove spacing. It has quite a low sight line, so it does not work on many guns. You need to very carefully check the sight line and mount for your particular application.

Finally is the Target FP-Anschutz. Again this is rather specialized and not for every airgun, with a fixed 11mm dovetail mount and a long base with a low sight line. Comes only with knob adjusters.

All in all a lot of choices. Many shooters who are familiar only with the Beeman sight don't realize there are low sight-line options, and the cheaper 5D-series sights are an great new alternative.

Wow! excellent info. I am confused or unsure though about the high-low sight line. How does one know which sight line one has? Particularly on the 24, with what I think is a high, hooded sight?

That was such a great walk through the Williams sights. I was looking at them online. So, which one (target knobs) would you think would fit the 24?

Thanks again,

John

Typically barrel-cockers have a bit of "barrel droop" (which means the barrel point down slightly, compared to the line of the top of the receiver tube), which gives them a naturally high sight line.

All of these sights have a large range of vertical adjustment, only in extreme cases would any of them give you a problem.

As mentioned in my write-up, the ubiquitous Beeman sport peep sight is really the Williams FP-AG in disguise--a high-sight-line model. Actually, the only airgun I've ever had that really needed a "low" rear sight is the Diana model 50, an old tap-loading gun with a fixed barrel.

To get the high sight line, universal adjustable mount, and target knobs, buy the FP-AG TK. This is the same sight sold by Beeman under their name.

Thanks - that is one of the sights I was looking at.

these sights? I'd like to try one on my R7.


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