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1st night with the RWS21 Panther groups and rifle.

October 25 2006 at 7:27 AM
  (Login donack456)
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1st night with the RWS21 Panther groups and rifle. I was lookng to get a RWS 24 but only the .22 was avaiable and with T04 trigger. I still may get a RWS2422 but I decided on a RWS in .177 after reading and finding information over the internet in Germany (translated) I decided to get the RWS 21. It was only $99.95 not a bad price for a new RWS.

I've read several reviews here stating that its not a good air rifle and not worth the money. My conclusion is it is worth the money pending how much you spent, but its worth $100. It is front heavy but the metal work is all Diana nicely made but as mentioned not blued as deep. I can see brownish tint under the right light. It has a fiberglass trigger guard, trigger, front & rear sight along with the stock. It seemed well made and solidly built. It tooks some doing to stop the scope from sliding, I added a scope stop and with some adjustment it stopped.

I shot 7 different pellets the last two being cpl hp and Gamo match wadcutters, the cpl hp were un-uniformed and grouped but scattered. The Gamo match pellets started grouping well and produced 1 jagged hole 5 shot groups but as the shots increased 10 shots the groups opened up. It only has a cheap Gamo 4x32 scope mount combo. And its a new gun that hasn't been lube tuned yet, I think it will make a fine little plinker. I'd like the same saftey as my RWS46 on the Panther 34 if so I'm definitely getting the RWS34 panther in .22. Not that this one is bad but its fiberglass also and automatically thrust out and smoothly pushes back in to release the saftey.
Maybe better then pushing up but the metal and standard trigger is classic Diana.

One reviewer said it was a POS and not to buy it. But if you fairly compare it to $100 rifles, its a Gem and maybe POS if compared to HW97 or RWS54. But who would do that?

I end up shooting FT 15 yard targets with its and it was surprisinly impressive with this 4x32 scope no doubt. I might have to put a better scope on her. My Temp files filled and won't clear until 10-25 or I'd post pictures.

 
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(Login donack456)
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Heres the Pictures of that night.

October 25 2006, 11:58 PM 

I notice which round it like then sighted it in. You can see the groups got tighter and tighter.

 
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Jim
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Thanks for the review. I have

October 27 2006, 5:08 PM 

been considering the Model 34 Panther in .22 Cal. as I have been wanting a RWS 34, but I need another air gun like I need another head. The only .22 Call air gun I have now is the 350M which I really like, but it sure is heavy for toting around.

That is a nice looking rifle. Having recently seen pictures of the NEW Model 34, with the longer forearm and butt pad, I may hold out for one of those as I am a wood addict (don't currently have any that aren't). I have not seen any information; however, if and/or when they will be available in the U.S. Might have to go with the 34 Panther so keep us posted on what you think of the stock if/when you get your 34 Panther. I have several RWS rifles but my favorite (currently) is the Model 46.

Regards,

Jim

 
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Manufacturer?

October 28 2006, 3:50 PM 

 Don,

 Nice groups!

 Do you know the manufacturer?  Is it in fact Diana? That safety button looks SO familliar, yet I can't place it.

 RWS sub-contracts with many manufacturers, and though the guns may not be produced directlly by Diana, the warranty is still their usual super comprehensive warranty.

 I am VERY pleased with both my RWS 9N (a Cometa) and also my RWS 94 (also a Cometa)!

 I've been thinking about a .22 M-34 Panther but also have several Ham Radio wants... I have several good airguns, but only one Handheld and a borrowed Mobile/Base Ham Radio. The Radios will likely win out!

 ZVP


 
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(Login donack456)
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I think this is one of the new design German Dianas simlar to the RWS24.

October 28 2006, 6:10 PM 

I think this is one of the new design German Dianas simlar to the RWS24. I noticed that the sights are different and the safety. I hope the Panther 34 in .22, I'm waiting has a safety like my RWS 46, but if its not this saftey is really ergonmic, easy and natural to release, I could live with it.

I think its a new designed Diana.
http://www.diana-airguns.de/index.php?id=147&L=1&width=1024&height=768

 
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Re: I think this is one of the new design German Dianas simlar to the RWS24.

November 1 2006, 6:57 PM 

 Don,

 I think you're absolutelly correct! From what I could ascertain  (trying to decifer from German), the new models are indeed a new Diana developement. Time was long past for new advances and refinements. Other manufacturers have burst forward with new innovations, but Dianawerk traditionally retained it's conservative approach.

 Good to see the new products!

 Just today I shot my re-sprung 1976 .177 Beeman/Diana Model 35 and am still amazed with the long range power it produces! I also spent considerable time with my "Home Tuned" .177 RWS Model 92. Both continually please me! I kept the 35 open sighted and the 92 is scoped.

 I am also sure that your new "Baby" (the Panther 21) will likewise keep ya happy for some time to come!

 I have an especailly fond spot for the vintage Diana "Boys Rifles" and their classic and/or mid-size rifles. Far from being magnums these in most cases, sub-600 and 700fps rifles are a simple joy to shoot and provide their owners with hours of low stress, mild mannered shooting! Yea I love my Magnums, but liesurelly nailing near and distant tin cans, walnuts, and 12ga hulls is a real blast! I swear, today the lightweight and gentle shooting Model 94 shot-up a large pile of assorted pellets!

 Please keep us updated on the progress of your new model. It will be intresting to see how the rifle wears and settles in and how your uses for it diversify! Repeat shooting sessions often really bring out the best in a mild recoiling, meduim velocity rifle. As the gun wears in, oftimes pellets that only shot marginally when the gun was new, later shoot well in a broken-in, shot-polished barrel. (I was amazed to find that once worn-in, the over the counter .177 Chinese made Daisy W/C's worked BEST in my Model 92!!!). Perhaps your rifle will net likewise suprises?

 Have fun and please keep us updated, OK?

 ZVP


 
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Cvan
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Panther Model 21

November 2 2006, 1:22 PM 

I also enjoyed the write up on this gun. And I'm very glad to see that these are being made by Diana and not imported from you know where.
Thanks
Chris

 
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Some Asians are GOOD!

November 2 2006, 5:58 PM 

cvan,

 I sorta agree that some eastern imports are junk or at best so-so, BUT there have been a few excellent ones!

 The QB78's (earlier ones), the Marksman 2004 (Second revision-on...), and one must not forget the "Wonder Deal of Them ALL", The $24 .177 KL-3B Fast Deer! Some others like some R-9 clones and how bout that Brit. Underlever clone???

 Diana did OK with their Spanish manufacturer and also OK with Northern and other European and Russian manufacturers too! Their Chinese effort went sour somehow, but at first it had much promise!

 I'd like to see a Diana/CZ Marrige!

 I will hold my toung about the current Mexican manufacturer... I don't have information on WHY (?) the firm had other major airgun deals come apart, so let's see how the current Diana contract does?

 In a distant way Diana's sub-contracts have always reminded me of Steve Lazlo's Hy-Score deals. Very broad and inclusive of many brands. Intresting marketing for sure!

 ZVP


 
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Cvan
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Some Asians are GOOD!

November 3 2006, 11:15 AM 

There are some relationships that RWS has had that seemed very good for the consumer. Cometa is one that comes to mind. Anyone have a 93 in .22 they want to sell? I still wonder why they dropped the TX series of guns. I purchased one of the early QB-22's from Mac-1 and that was a very nice gun. Tim did an excellent job on those. I have had some nice Asian guns and some that I still have because I wouldn't feel right selling them to someone else. Spell that junk. Some love the CZ-631. I've got one that is very bad in the accuracy department. I even cut the barrel and recrowned it and I'm still am not happy. Others, like the BSA Meteor in .22 that turned out to be a fantastic gun. Sold in their day as a mediocre gun, this one was an absolute peach. I have another that is marked Ithica and it is only about what you would exspect.
As you implied, Variety is the spice of life and I too am waiting to see what comes down the line.
Have a good one,
Chris

 
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