Ive found out the truth about pba ammo and the benefits about CP Ammo(Ty Everyone)
But these Zinc Pellets.
http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/pellet.pl?pellet_id=243
Ive heard that these are no good for "high" powered airguns.
Ive also heard that they give 1500 fps in a certain air rifle.
Whats your guys beef on this?
Furthermore, Cleanin brush. I had an old pellet gun what i did to clean it was take some pellet oil put it down the barrel then push toilet paper through with a straight hanger wire. Thinking back I probally shoulndt of done that. On this site on numerous posts about cleaning brushes steel or no steel. When I order this RWS CLEANING KIT should I do that? Or No?
THanks aLL very much.

Am not certain on the pellets, I have never tried the new PBA ammo, just plain good name airgun pellets are best I think, plus you know the high velicity reached or attained by these new pellets might look good but I would think they would be hard on the gun as most of the new magnum airguns are probably under alot of stress as is. I use a flexible cleaning rod on my guns, basically like on my old FWB 124 the barrel was choked on it and so I had used a .17 caliber rigid rod on it for years but most of the newer guns I usually use a Otis flexilbe rod. I would not use a bristle brush probably ever in a airgun barrel as it just does not seem like it would ever be needed, I just use like Beeman MP5 oil on a patch ounce in a while say every 500 rounds and then wipe the bore very dry to remove any residue it might leave behind. You really don't need to clean the barrel on airguns that often is just like a good rimfire barrel you more than likely would put wear on the bore more so by cleaning rather than from actual use. If you go with a RWS cleaning kit and use a regular cleaning rod in your gun make shure you keep that rod clean as it is the dirt and stuff that cleaning rods pick up that is harmful to a barrel. Wipe the rod down with a cleaner degreaser type solvent quite often and for shure before you use the rod. And would only use a regular rod on a gun that would accept the rod from the breech otherwise better go with a flexible rod, I beleive RWS had one of those also available.

I was with a man who was cleaning his guns and he had a rifle cleaner
i took the skinniest one there and started cleaning it wasnt tight at all it was quite loose wow was it ever dirty..Did this hurt my gun?

Hi Zach, are you asking about if you used a bore brush? You probably did not hurt your barrel if you used a brush, the only thing is that is should really not be needed for a airgun bore, but if you ran one through is okay, I would not make a habit of using a brush everytime though or even in the future as a good fitting patch down the bore should clean it up well enough, if you have had lubricants from the chamber and shot the gun alot and stuff the bore probably was dirty, have not seen more than flakes of lead in airgun bores ususally, sometimes when they are new and diesel a bit or smoke it will leave the bore black looking also.

I was talking to a guy at North Silva and he said just to take a cleaning pellet dab it in some cleaner oil or whatever and push it through the barrel. Becauze the cleaning pellet is so lite it would be like dry firing it.!

Zac,

As others have said, you should not use a wire brush in your air gun. It is totally unnecessary and "can" damage your barrel if you use it a lot. Air gun barrels don't generally need cleaning and I never do it unless accuracy falls off.

Best way to clean IMHO:

Buy some cleaning pads and a bore-snake. Check Mac1 Airguns on the internet for a bore-snake. Only a few bucks.

Buy some GooGone cleaner. It's cheap and a bottle will last a looong time.

Saturate a pad a drag it through the bore toward the end of the barrel. Do this twice if you think it is really dirty.

Now, just drag dry cleaning pads through the barrel until there they come out clean (might take 6 or 7 pads).

Now just shoot the gun and don't worry about cleaning it again until the accuracy starts to fall off and that will likely be a looong time if you use clean pellets.

Don't use cleaning pellets in a high powered springer. It is "almost" like dry firing your gun. When the piston slams forward, and there is not enough resistance by the proper weighted pellet, it can and will eventually damage your piston seal, or spring. Use the method above for the best results.

Don't shoot light pellets as the same thing can occur.

Don't shoot really heavy pellets as it can eventually damage and break the spring.

If you are shooting a .177 cal., then 7.5 to 8.5 grain soft lead pellets are the best for your gun and you should get good accuracy with the right pellet.

High velocity does not generally give you the best accuracy in an air gun. "Round nose" pellets "usually" give the best down-range accuracy. If you don't hit what you are aiming at, the high velocity does nothing for you except cause a fast miss! Sabots, and high velocity pellet will likely foul you barrel and are usually not very accurate and a waste of time and money. Stick with the tried and proven stuff and you will be better off. Accuracy is what you are striving for with an air gun.

Good luck

What would your advice be for cleaning a rifle like the RWS model 50? Disassembly?

Some folks use brake fluid to clean the internal parts of a gun. You can use WD40, but you MUST remove all of the oil before reassembly. You can use alcohol as a de-greaser.

If you have a leather seal you will need to use a silicon type oil and NOT regular oil. You do not want to end up with ANY combustion type oil in the compression chamber other than the silicon oil treatment for a leather seal. It is important to use only the amount required to prevent excessive dieseling for the initial break-in. As you probably know, if the gun has a leather seal, you can most likely change it to a synthetic seal in which case, you do not want ANY oil in front of the seal or in the chamber (the rear end of the seal can be slightly dressed with the appropriate lube to prevent burning the seal).

This is a tutorial that should help you on your project:

http://www.fortunecity.com/olympia/kickbox/377/xs-b20/xs_b20_index.html

Also check this website for the lubes you will need in addition to being a source for springs, guides, seals, etc.

Important: Specific lubes are best for certain parts of the gun.

http://www.airguns.citymax.com/page/page/251327.htm


Good luck and let us know how your project turns out...........