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Harvey... I can't ...keep ..it ....quiet !

February 20 2008 at 5:04 PM
  (Login caricktr)
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Mine !


46 and Stutzen owners ...Feed me please ?!!


rws46stutzen.jpg picture by R6j6B

Only two mods : WGRS rear sight and maybe a "lube only" tune . 

 
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warren
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I knew you where going to do this

February 21 2008, 2:09 AM 

it was a matter of TIME

good for you Rick, seems like you are close to having every RWS model again it's just a matter of TIME for this to happen

I will venture to guess it is in .177 cal, am I correct?

warren

and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

 
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kRicktr
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Re: I knew you where going to do this

February 21 2008, 7:13 AM 

True Warren , it has been a long time coming on this one. Really hope I made the correct decision . Yes it is a .177 - the 34P,48 and 350 are .22's and quite powerful enough to handle most any small game a person could use an airgun on . Another "big bore" wasn't needed . The .177 niche was pretty well filled with the R7 and the 40 ...but the Stuzen is what I truly wanted from the beginning. Thats probably reason enough to justify it .

I emailed back and forth with Harv last night and "got it" as far as the operation and a few good bits of owner satisfaction review about the 46 in general. Thanks Again Harvey!  

If anyone has any info on the 46 or links to such info - I'd appreciate any that can be shared .     

 
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Re: I knew you where going to do this

February 21 2008, 7:39 AM 

Now you're talkin' hehe I think you are going to Looove that Stuztenbomber.

Good for you bud

Harv

 
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Scheiss!

February 21 2008, 9:36 AM 

Nice Stutzen Rick! Way to go!

Have you decided what JM kit to use on it yet?



Diana 350 Mag .22
Hammerli 850 .22
A few Crosman CO2 & Pump .177

 
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(Login caricktr)
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Haha iirc

February 21 2008, 10:00 AM 

its Scheiss pot LOL


 
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sehr gut..

February 21 2008, 11:17 AM 

scheiss is the german word for our popular one: "sh*t" so you can use it any way you want.

If you want me to teach you some bad German words let me know and I 'll e-mail you some. I took German for 14yrs in various schools(!!?). Yeah my father was nuts about everything german but was not german himself. Maybe when the German soldiers fired bullets over his head after he stole a loaf of bread from their truck in 1944, he thought he owed them his life or something.. who knows. I also lived in Germany for almost the entire summer in '78 so I only know curse words from the 70's & early '80's, no new slang or contemporary stuff

Diana 350 Mag .22
Hammerli 850 .22
A few Crosman CO2 & Pump .177

 
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kRicktr
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Thanks Harry

February 21 2008, 11:47 AM 

I live only a few miles from NewUlm where Oktoberfest is an actual holiday (kind of like over der in 'Sconsin) . My grasp of the language is only from the joke cards handed out with the Steins . My daughter can teach me plenty of the bad words in German . It's her second language.

fwiw , the scheiss pot was directed at myself LOL 

 
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Stutzen.

February 21 2008, 1:42 PM 

Dear Sir, congratulations ! You have the smartest air rifle available in Europe at the moment and the absolutely timeless number one from Diana. I mentioned it's a 4.5 mm ? Don't start tuning this beautifull rifle with after sales springs etc. but only use it for serious shooting on +/- 50 meters. For your info: STUTZEN is the German word for wooden stock from trigger to end of the barrel. You can see a lot of German "Waldjagd büchsen" ( translated: wood and woodland rifles ) in Stutzen style. The wood is meant as protection foor the barrel when shooting form a position that the rifle rest against / upon a tree. I also own a Stutzen and for me it was one of the nicest rifles I ever bought from Diana. Enjoy shooting this ( perfect weight and balance !! ) rifle, best regards from Johannis. ( the Netherlands ) P.S. you will have superb results with the Diana High Power pellets or the H/N Baracuda Extra Heavy pellets. I measured 263 m/sec. on the Chrony with both !!

 
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thank you Sir for

February 21 2008, 5:18 PM 

explaining the clasic rifle Rick bought

Johannis, I was stationed in Sttutgart, Germany for 3 years and did not learn much German language

Octoberfest in Sttutgart is for Germans', the one in Berlin is for TOURISTS

fine beer and chicken and fine country

now you are from the Netherlands and will understand my meaning of life in Sttutgart

there you go Rick, a compliment from across the pond

thank you both

warren


and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

 
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kRicktr
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Indeed Thank You Jan

February 21 2008, 10:09 PM 

Excellent to hear a bit about my infatuation with full stocked arms . I have a few pics of Gabriella VonStutzens mate ...Claude VonStutzen. Claude carries a bit more oomph behind his bark and is quite a tack driver himself .

Thought you might all enjoy more candy .
(even though I'm not much of a photographer *boo!* hiss hiss* My apologies for the midnight shadows . Claude is a bit of a show off for the digicam and likes being at at high full moon as well as any time . Enjoy !   )

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Rick

February 22 2008, 2:38 AM 

what about that trigger?

OEM?

does not look like @ RWS trigger

warren

and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

 
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Nice rimfire Stutzen.

February 22 2008, 3:35 AM 

Well, a beautifull ( .22 rimfire I suppose ? ) Stutzen. This week I had the opportunity to fire some rounds with the Sauer Stutzen in .243 caliber. A bit different from the Diana Stutzen, I keep saying it: air rifle shooting is the most relax way of shooting targets etc. Best regards from Johannis.

 
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Warren!!

February 22 2008, 12:00 PM 

This not a Diana Stutzen airgun. It's a different .22 rimfire (Stutzen, ie: all wood), shoot real bullets. get it? Stutzen is a generic name widely used for rifles that use wood around the barrel. This one in the pic looks like a semi-automatic .22 rimfire.

Did you think Rick's gun-crazed addiction stopped at airguns? Think again! He is usually packing a couple of semi-automatic handguns too! You never know when you are going to be attacked by pitbulls when jogging...

Diana 350 Mag .22
Hammerli 850 .22
A few Crosman CO2 & Pump .177

 
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Re: Warren!!

February 22 2008, 2:42 PM 

(to Harry-> )

... and in his neighborhood...!




Harv

 
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Unlike Bad Bad Leroy Brown

February 22 2008, 10:09 PM 

I don't play with .32's or razors unless I wanna piss something off .

Yes Warren ,that is a different trigger indeed . Full on custom Ruger 10/22 . Believe it or not the stock is worth many times over the cost of the gun. The checkering was done "free hand" - meaning the man who did it had an idea , grabbed a checkering tool and "drew" that pattern into the wood by hand and thought alone . Kind of a scary way to finish a $700 piece of lumber don't ya think ?  

 
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RedFeather
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Nice Mannlicher

February 22 2008, 10:24 PM 

When Fajen's closed their big stock making facility they were selling their cherry Mannlicher stocks and barrels for the 10/22 for all of $250. Had a Neidner checkered steel grip cap and a skeleton buttplate. Kick myself for not buying one! Looked a lot like your's. Much trimmer than the Ruger configuration.

What, me worry???

 
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Re: Nice Mannlicher

February 22 2008, 10:44 PM 

I remember those Fajen stocks - yeah I have a posterior bruise from the multiple self kick .
This one is much trimmer - but  custom made by Gatewood to be so. Finished weight with scope and loaded 10 round magazine is 5 1/2 pounds . It also has a 16" tapered fluted s/s barrel vs the factory 18.5"sporter profile. 

 
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By the by

February 23 2008, 12:04 AM 

Gabriella *is* sweeter than Struedel . Just got through cleaning her up well and adding some lube to the pivot joints. Quite an interesting girl I tell ya ...think I'll keep her around...closely.

Build date of 12/00 and was brand spankin new in the box .
T01 two screw trigger - not too hard not too light - just right.
Settled on the shallow u-shape leaf on the rear sight. Stock fit and finish is very good with a nice dark coloring and grain. Not fiery and walnuttttty and no skip line checkering as on the Luxus models ...just elegantly beautiful.

Yup! you guessed it - I'm in love.

d677f429.jpg picture by R6j6B

 
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Shootfest

March 8 2008, 12:35 AM 

Looks identical to mine 12/00 TO1 I installed a Mendoza
on it, the integral front sight/latch is about the only
thing I do not like on this otherwise fine rifle,a scope
almost looks obscene on it I have always prefered peeps
or diopters. as long as I can see thats the way it'll be.

Have not chroned any but it is plenty accurate, waiting for the weather to improve and the snow to melt.

A metal front sight would be the ticket, I thought of talking to a pattern maker friend of mine that does make aluminum castings,he has duplicated parts in the past.
That plastic front is injection moulded and casting in aluminum then anodizing and coloring the sight would make for a sturdier latch receptecale, one that would have no give for the spring loaded ball bearing in the cocking lever.sometimes after the shot the lever drops from the latch,unlike the more secure standard 46 latch which is adjustable for tension. the shootfest latching system has no adjustment unless I have missed seeing it.

The second glitch I experienced was (probably my hurry to shoot) was the loading gate has to be secure after the pellet is inserted in the barrel. On one occasion,only time
it happened as I touched off the trigger the latch sprung open and I lost the rearmost latch seal. Took me about 10 min to find it. Looks like I am going to order a couple
as spares, Having found it I used med strengh blue loctight
to secure it. i've gone thru about 400 hobbies.

I don't intend to open the rifle until I have shot at least 1000 rounds thru it. then its JM shopping basket
time.

Ground squirrels watch out Shootfest will be on the prowl.

Sylvan


 
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warren
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Harry

February 23 2008, 4:55 PM 

got it

Rick is ready to be commited to the nearest mental facility

is that @ .22 cal RIMFIRE black burner GUN? and not an airgun

lord have mercy he went overboard for a STUTZEN

warren

and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

 
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kRicktr
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Re: Harry

February 23 2008, 5:08 PM 

Not overboard ...passionate

 
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kRicktr
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been tinkering

March 6 2008, 6:05 PM 

and testing .
Tried out a Mendoza aperature found it to hit anywhere from 5/8" (light pells) to 1 3/4" high (heavy pells) at 10m . Not to my liking . So me being me I tore the sight apart . We aren't talking a swiss watch afterall (not even a Timex at that) . Broke out the heavy tools (pin puches ,tap hammer,files and dremel) made a few corrections and now 10.6g pells are dead nuts on at 10m ,8.4g are 1/4" low even with the stock front post. Now if I can do something about all the bulk engineered into the sight and streamline it ,the Mendoza may be a fine option ...until then a Beeman or Williams is a better choice. 

Yes Harry , a simple lube tune was*not* good enough . Nothing short of a JM kit does it . Minimum.
GRT kit(velocity tar only) ,Apex seal & buttons (both moly'd) light deburr/polish with a moly powder burnish and some polishing/moly lube on the cocking arm ...Heavenly!
Have a "few" other items to test ...Heheheh

Doesn't perform all that bad either .
R10Match 7.0g : 854 avg , 14.2 es , 6.5 sd
JSB Exact  8.4g : 781 avg , 3.4 es , 1.4 sd
Beeman FTS 8.9g: 742 avg,8.8 es, 4.5sd
H&N BarcudaMatch Gold 10.6g (I think?): 694 avg,12.7 es,6.4 sd 

All fall into a single ragged hole ...and with Style. Gotta Love Her.     


 
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Re: Harvey... I can't ...keep ..it ....quiet !

March 6 2008, 7:37 PM 

I have a 46 Stutzen. The power level is the same as the other under lever 46's. I have 46's in .22 and .177, but the Stutzen is available in the US only in .177. I shoot my Stutzen with open sights only because I refuse to clutter the guns good looks with a scope. My other 46 underlevers wear scopes, but I must admit that the .22 is lacking in effective range to need one. My best accurate range with it is about 30 yards. At times I've done Hail Mary's to 50. The .177 is good to 40 on a good day, but has no penetration to speak of. Inside 25 yards both the Stutzen and the 46E are both excellent paper punchers with the edge going to the STUTZEN. It's shorter (about 3 inches),a bit lighter, and much easier to handle, harder to cock, but a better paper puncher. Love my Stutzen as a shooter but not sure I'd hunt with it, just not enough punch for shots over 20 yards.

 
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Stutzen is a collectors item ?

March 7 2008, 1:25 AM 

MISSYSDAD: the right comment because I feel the same. Actually this rifle is meant for "waldjagd" or woodhunting without a scope. Most comforble way of shooting is without a scope, scope's are difficult to fit because the rear sight is very close to the scope rail, you MUST use a short scope, the 3-9 x 40 of Diana is too long or you must remove the rear scope. I found out that only the .177 is for sale in your country, in the Netherlands the .177 and the .22 is available. For me the Stutzen is more a collectors item from the Diana brand, for shooting "around the house" it's ot the most handy weapon. Anyway: you're the proud owner of a very, very good looking rifle and can have a lot of fun with it, kind regards from Johannis.

 
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Harvey
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Re: Harvey... I can't ...keep ..it ....quiet !

March 8 2008, 10:41 AM 

Missydad, I have to disagree with you per my own experience. I've been using a Diana 35 out to forty yards with confidence. My HW35 pushes .177 pellets at 700fps near exactly and that thing is regularly shot to forty yards on pest species. There certainly is enough penetration to kill with a single shot. If I saw that kind of velocity/energy coudln't accomplish the task I would have moved in closer for the shot or chosen another airgun for the taks a long time ago.


Harv

 
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Thanks for the insight Harvey

March 8 2008, 11:18 AM 

I'm not much of a hunter, mostly a paper puncher, but I do love to shoot grounghogs if I get the chance. It's a hate/hate relationship I have with them. Usually get 2 or 3 a year with the 350 or the 48's, but don't know about smaller animals. Just thought that the 46's wouldn't have enough punch to do it, but who knows, it really is all about shot placement and the 46's are certainly accurate enough out to 40 yards, just didn,t think there'd be enough energy in the pellet once it got there. Would be willing to try it with my 34 or 36, and am definately going to try my .20 45 this year. Any thoughts about these choices?

Older is Better

 
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Stutzen experience ?

April 1 2008, 12:16 PM 

Dear Rick, I am curious how your experience is with the Stutzen till now ? Have you already fit a scope, what pellet type do you use and what is your pellet speed ? I am on the point of selling my .22 because I didn't shoot it last months. Let me know what your experiences are with this superb rifle, best regards from Johannis.

 
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Dvbch
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Great investment!

April 1 2008, 7:22 PM 

Good Job Rick! Great investment! The gun should be in your will!
Happy shooting!
DVBCH

 
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Dvbch
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Great investment!

April 1 2008, 7:22 PM 

Good Job Rick! Great investment! The gun should be in your will!
Happy shooting!
DVBCH

 
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