RedFeather (Login RedFeather) from IP address 96.231.42.46
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Haven't got around to the RWS C mount and this one came up on the Yellow classifieds tonight. I think you guys had originally suggested one. Maybe one of these months I'll get around to scoping that thing. Kind of like the iron sights for the moment.
Sir,if it's a 54 Airking you don't need a Dampa Mount because these rifles are recoill-less ! You can put a scope without being affraid to damage it on an Airking, Dampa's are meant for the extra heavy recoill rifle's like the 350 Magnum and the 48, best regards from Johannis.
Well, I've got one, anyway. Tim, is your's going onto a 54, as well? Johannis, although the 54 appears recoiless to the shooter, I understand that the action where the scope is mounted is still subject to shock. At least, there are quite a few posts about the 54's supposed reputation as a "scope eater". Then again, you've got one.
Am I correct in thinking this Dampa mount will be easier to adjust than the C mount?
Johannis, as has already been pointed out, the 54 "seems" recoiless to the shooter but the scope is still exposed to the energy of it. I've tried the "C" mounts on my 54 and didn't like them at all. I looked at the Dampa's but heard too many negative things about the rubber used in them. I have been using the Beeman 5039/Sportsmatch AOP55 (same thing) with great success. It has stood up on my AirKing so well that I now have 3 and use them on everything else I own!
Redfeather, of course the fitting of a Dampa will make fitting a scope a lot easier. I guess the 54 has the same scope rail as the 48, I will send you a picture on which way I allready fit Dampa's for years with good result ! Best regards from Johannis.
Sir, correct because the Dampa is a one peice mount and there is simply nothing to adjust, the only thing to do is fitting it on a rifle and fitting your scope on it !! Best regards from Johannis. ( I don't know why but the Sportsman mounts are not very popular in the USA ? )
You learn something new every day. Now, what to do with an RWS C mount?
Hey, one more question - What's good to put on rifles that only have grooved receivers and not tip-off scope bases? I've noticed some of my rings and bases are for the latter and won't go on a curved receiver. See that Gamo sells a clamp on scope rail but have also seen horrendous reports of one where the stop hole egged about half and inch since they are aluminum.
Red Feather ask
"Hey, one more question - What's good to put on rifles that only have grooved receivers and not tip-off scope bases?"
James replies:
I have a set of BKL's I use on a grooved receiver on a CZ 452. They make them for both standard and 11mm grooved receivers. I have had great results with BKL's on powder burners.
The 5038 mount from Beeman is not adjustable. Its the same as the Sportsmatch OP22C. This one is for Webley and FWB rifles that have cross-pin stops. The adjustable Beeman mount for droop correction is the 5039, which is also the Sportsmatch AOP55. The Sportsmatch AOP15C and AOP19C mounts are also droop corrected but not adjustable.
is the best mount in your opinion for a diana mod 54. I have one but have yet to buy a new mount. still studying the options. i done want to spent the money for one that doesn't work. on pyramid air they say the adjustable b-square and drop the lock pin off the front of the rail to make sure it does not move. Has any one had luck with one that works right with the recoil without having to go to this measure. also how do you know if you have barrel droop, as i haven't been able to keep my scope on safely long enough to see much. i fear the dreaded stop screw breaking story to let it do all the work. the screw is mighty small after all. thanks any help is apreciated. red
The ones mentioned from Beeman or Sportsmatch (they are the same mounts, Sportsmatch makes them for Beeman). I had the one piece C-mount and the B square, neither one held up. The 5039 is the one to go with.
Is it the right mount you have: it must be the DM 060 instead of the AOP 55 ?
The 55 is not "an absorbating mount", the DM 060 is !! Something must be wrong in your way of fitting or your scope must already have been broken. Best regards from Johannis.
the BKL 260 series scopes (except James). They are non-adjustable but are designed for droop compensation so there are 2 variants of this mount. These are by far the strongest mounts and come with 6 screws instead of 4.
They are used by the overwhelming majority of Ultra Magnum Patriot/Kodiak and 350 Mag owners (in the US anyway). They are indestructible and I have never seen anyone mention that their BKL mount has moved or their scope creep.
The Dampa and Beeman 5039 are great mounts too. The BKL IMO is just as good if not better.
I had the neighbor's dog steal my first BKL that arrived. The German shepherd 1yr old mix/mutt tore up the box, managed to get the BKL 260 D7 out of the plastic container which he chewed up in pieces and was playing with the mount for 1-2dys carrying it in its mounth and chewing on it like it was a bone. I looked for it for a couple of days and couldn't find it. All I could find was the pieces of the packaging scattered all over the neighborhood. A couple of days later I spotted something black up the road about 60-70yds and seemed to have been run over by cars driving by because the next day it was in a different spot. I walked up and there it was all muddy and dirty. Took it in, cleaned it, degreased it, and it looked like new with the exception of 2 or 3 small surface (not deep at all) needle-size indentations from the dog's canines. I have since given it to my friend who put it on his R1. He has been shooting the gun with no issues whatsoever.
RWS C-Mount is not recommended. It couldn't hanlde my 350 only after 50 shots. I threw it in the garbage.
I use a windage/elevation adjustable Beeman mount on my 48. It's easily adjusted. I got so close to zero with the mount that my scope is only about 4 clicks off optical center. I foget the model number of the mount however its easy to find at Beeman's site. A bit pricey at around $75 but worth every penny. I had nothing but trouble with C-mounts (but that's another story.....)
It is a 5039 mount i myself think its one of the best mounts out there can be adjusted for drope plus side to side. have mine on 460 mag 700 rounds through
it scope are mount has not moved. I installed oring on back screw not as damper but to see if mount moves. I did this when i first bought the gun.
Again if your looking for a good mount for a Mag this will do it first class.
Ray
I checked the website and that's it. It's built like a tank. I tried a couple of times to mount a 30mm tube RWS scope using a c-mount (both mounts defective from the factory)and gave up and bought a 1" beeman mount and an 1" scope. Never looked back!!! Now when I'm shooting, I know its not the scope thats the problem, just me!
on my 48 because of hardly any barrel droop I was able to use the Dampa mount but on my 460 there was no WAY because of the amount of droop
both are fixed barrels but I must of bough $200.00 worth of mounts for the 460, until the BKL D6 arrived
the trade off is that with the Dampa I can put any scope on my 48 and it will hold with the BKL mount you have to buy a strong scope for the Magnum springers
for me it's trying different mounts and scopes until you get the right combination
warren
and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"
...what's good to go on a receiver that doesn't have the rail like the 54? (And an airgun receiver, not a rimfire.) Did I get a reply on that? Looks more like a bunch of stock numbers for more rail-based mounts.
Is the groove 3/8" or 11mm or some oddball size? BKL makes quality mounts that will work on airguns or rimfires. I think it's the 200 series that I have.
