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Im Gonna Chop it!

May 3 2008 at 4:59 PM
Tim  (no login)
from IP address 71.204.253.110

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Been looking at the Feuerkraft Pro compact Diana 350. Spent some time today researching re crowning. Tomorow Im gonna lop off the barrel on my 350. Looking for helpfull info from my Friends here. Any advice Guys?? Im Gonna Chop it! Thanks in advance,Tim.

 
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(Login bbgunbob)
69.14.147.184

Chop it Tim

May 3 2008, 7:04 PM 

Tim,
I used a medium size pipe cutter with a brand new blade a couple of times,simply because I had no access to a lathe.I also kept it lubed real good while cutting and took my time applying pressure to the cutter and turning until it felt free wheeling.It took me about 20 min to get a clean cut which also choked it while cutting.I had to use a counter sink to open the crown to acceptable size because of to much choke.Recrowning took longer than the cut.It really crushed/choked the tip of the muzzle.I just kept counter sinking and measuring with a vernier calipler util I got it within a .005 under bore for choke.(then did the proper polish job to finish the crown)
Its real easy to chop but very time consuming to get a proper crown,its well worth the effort and I know you enjoy working on air guns.I was very pleased with the result even though I only used a B2(B1)lock barrel Chinese for my first chop and I did a friends .22 cal. Quest.
I think when the day comes I buy a RWS 350M that will be the first thing I do.It will be a 14" chopped barrel with a 6" muzzle break to give me the leverage I will need to cock it.

Hope this helps
I don't think you
have a metal lathe either.

Your Yankee Pal
BBGun Bob

Springers are Neat! One Shot One Bullseye!

 
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Dave@vabch
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68.98.244.33

Chopper

May 4 2008, 3:02 AM 

Bob, I tell ya, I love my C1 carbine. What a fun little gun and easy to tote around. And I really wish you could shoot my de-tuned 34. What an amazing difference, the new smoothness and accuracy is out of this world! I have thought about turning that gun into a carbine but every time I pick it up, I have to admire the balance of the 34 with that notorious long droopy barrel that is like a trademark of the 34. I am not sure I could do that. The 34. was my first serious gun and really just want to keep the looks the same way as I bought it. But it is interesting to see this new interest in carbines now taking place on this forum. Airbethere, was posting about carbines this whole past year. But if I do come across a used 350, I think it would make a very interesting gun if it was detuned a little and turned into a Carbine. Now you have me thinking about spending more money. Thanks a lot!

Dave @vach

 
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(Login bbgunbob)
69.14.147.184

Ya just worked a saterday! WTH !

May 4 2008, 5:26 AM 

Dave,
Now I know anyone who works on a saterday can afford a 350M to chop or a P5 Pistol with a nice scope.LOL
After 31 years and many saterdays in the Design Center at FO.MO.CO.I know its darn good money.Look at it this way,a gun will probably be cheaper than the taxes they will withhold from your next OT check,What the hell JUST DO IT! Te he he.
Just a little shoulder nudge from a friend!

BBGun Bob
PS: Ya can't take it with ya
when your gone LOL

Springers are Neat! One Shot One Bullseye!

 
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Tim
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I Really Did It!!

May 4 2008, 11:03 AM 

Its a done deal! Came out great!! I will be back soon with pics. of the project. Thanks for the input guys. Tim.

 
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(Login ZVP)
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75.6.179.251

Some info please?

May 4 2008, 8:55 PM 

 Dave,

 Man you really have me intrested in that 34 of yours! It sounds like where I want to go with mine.

 I bought myself a .177,  TO-1 version at a VERY good price from Pamona Airguns a few months ago. The purchase was purely emotional, I'd always admired the basic Model 34, and  had a feeling that once I'd gotten one, it'd become a favorite!  Mine is in good shape, the Stock has a nice grain and the mechanicals are strictly "stock",  just lubed well. Velocity and accuracy with this  1998 Model is excellent, it wears a 3x12 BSA A/O Target scope and appears to be a tackdriver at 40-50 yds!

 Lacking a chrony, I can't quote any exact fps but I'll venture to estimate that the gun runs near the 4 digit  neighborhood with light ammo and goes supersonic ( with a loud R/F-like crack! ) shooting the ultra-lightweight Crosman lead free pellets. Tests to date have indicated though that the rifle prefers the 7.9 gr Crosman Premire best. 

 Extended shooting sessions with this sweetheart leave an old fella like myself with sore muscles and the unwanted recoil effect of a sore sholder from repeated wood to bone contact, LOL! As expected, muscular fatigue sets in and steadiness and hold consistancy suffers during long shooting sessions (Ya just can't put it down!).

  I think a De-Tune similar to yours is the answer. I quickly dug around trying to locate your post explaining the method you used, but somehow couldn't find it. Could you please either write me at my e-mail dnemanic@sbcglobal.net  or repost the particulars so I can get some ideas on what to do with mine.

 I e-mailed to JM about the rifle and he said he could make-up an entire multiple part, custom fit, package for the rifle however fitting it might be more technical than I am able. I'm NOT wanting to get too radical because the rifle already shoots pretty well, and I don't have much of a workshop or skills to dive too far into fitting a technical custom kit.

 NO offense meant towards JM!

 I just want to review several other ideas about maybe some simpler ways to reduce cocking effort.. Worst case, I'll fit a thick, soft, recoil pad and live with it.

 Thanks,

 ZVP

 Thanks,

 ZVP


 
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Dave@vabch
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De-tuned 34

May 5 2008, 3:38 AM 

Dave the difference is really remarkable. I was just at the tuners house yesterday, and the conversation was about this very subject. someone would really just have to shoot the gun to see the difference. By the way, I picked up my de-tuned 460.cal 22.cal yesterday and God, what a magnificent transformation! I was thinking about selling the 460 before the tune, but it is now a real keeper, a real pleasure to shoot and cock. I will be e-mailing you very soon. I am going to get with the tuner and talk to him and with your permission give him you e-mail. I will be seeing him again Friday when he tunes my R7.

Dave@vabch

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