Was going through the latest Diana catalogue. Saw variants of the Model 350 and Model 34 called 'professional compact'. They seem to be shortened, carbine versions of the regular models, and the barrels seem to be thicker towards the end. Has anyone used/owned these models, if so, what are your experiences with them. Are these 'professional' versions superior to the regular Dianas? Also would like to know the difference between 'match trigger' and a 'hair trigger' ( seen this descriptions in the catalogue)
some serious drool bait. too bad you can't order them direct from germany. i know i been able to buy a couple of fly rods from a shop in japan. sometimes you can buy through a 'broker" as well from shops in japan that don't sell to
the u.s. guns are probably a different ball game though. gun laws and customs.
I have the Feuerkraft 350 mag pro compact and I contacted Umerex and they said that the synthetic stock will be for sale the first part of 2009. I have the .22 version, mine has a bunch of recoil the cheap scope rings don't do a good job of keeping the scope in place, but the gun is so accurate with the RWS superpoint extras I don't use any other pellet eventhough I have other pellets the RWS provides the best spacing @ 35 yards of .75" I have not shot any game yet so I don't know of what kind of knock down power of this marriage of gun and pellet.
Hi mate
I own a 31 Pro Compact.
For nów, I júst bought I can say this about it:
- VERY front heavy!! The weight weighs in a whopping 366grms!It feels heavier than it looks too.
chequering is very sharp.
+ very well finished. They're matte, beadblasted. Looks good.
+ good trigger(T05, same as other Diana triggers)
+ looks very classy
Don't like the looks of the 350 panther personally; stock has, imo, ugly, grip pads..
Forgot, that thicker barrel is a muzzle weight of 30mm's. Barrel itsélf is normal 16mm.
Trigger is not better than other Diana triggers.
They're not superior to the standard versions. Júst 'sniperlook'.
Can we see some pictures of the 350 Feuerkrafts owners guns, I was planning to camo my gun just for a different look. I would like to hear from some of you out in cyberspace about our great guns.
Maybe a centerfire rifle could be dubbed "professional model" if it was like a
"guide gun" configuration or such. What the heck is a "professional model" airgun? The only "professional" airguns I'm familiar with are those used for tranquilizing animals. No diss to Diana but that's a bit of fluff.
There isn't really much difference between a real "hair trigger" and a "target trigger". Both are usually measured in ounces of pull. Sometimes a rifle with set triggers is dubbed hair-triggered. Other times it denotes an unsafe trigger - one that can be set off with a jar or blow. In a sporter carried afield, a "hair trigger" is not too terribly desirable unless it's of the variety which you can "set" just prior to firing. I doubt most of the Diana's made today have what you would call a "hair trigger", at least not by intentional design.
Not to chew on you, but I know of a few airgunners who actually charge for their services.
I myself have gotten a few dinners and drinks in exchange of a few pests eliminated. My work assisting the Mexican Environmental Protection Agency (SeMARNat) have been pro-bono, but I could have charged a fee for them.
Not to get too "Olympical" about what means being a Pro (just look at the Olympic Tennis roster to see what I mean), but I do think that there is substance to the matter; it's good marketing, yes, but my point is that not all of this is "Fluff".
Hair triggers are named like that because the spring that holds them is a "hair spring". And yes, proper hair triggers need "setting" by either pushing forward on the trigger blade, or pulling on one trigger blade to set another (If we ever get into the details, hair/set triggers should actually be called trigger hammer setter and trigger).
My undertanding is that the expression "hair trigger" means one which is so light that it will break merely with the force necessary to "bend a hair". Couple that with the expression "touch it off" if you will.
On the subject of set trigger systems, I was lucky enough to snag an out-of-print copy of the The Crossbow, first published around 1903 and a very definitive work. The author has excellent diagrams of actual, antique set trigger systems. Seems they were first developed to overcome the very high weights required to trip sears on these multi-hundred pound bows. I will post some pix when I get it.
Not degrading any pro-airgun hunters. What I meant was that "professional" usually denotes a special gun aimed at professional users. Take the Steyr rifle, for instance, which is very utilitarian compared to the beautiful sporters they produce.
Here are the differences between the basic 34 and the Meisterschutze Pro, per Umarex:
Basic 34 -
The RWS Model 34 airgun rifle combines accuracy, power and style into one affordable rifle. Using a time proven spring piston powerplant housed in a breakbarrel rifle, the Model 34 in .177 caliber is capable of surpassing the 1000 fps plateau. The classicly designed Model 34 is built with polished blued metals, a full sized hardwood adjustable trigger, an automatic safety and a rifled barrel.
M Pro -
The RWS 34 Meisterschütze Pro (Master Shooter, pronounced "my-stir-shoots") is built from the same reliable RWS air gun as the Model 34 rifle. It operates from the same proven break barrel system but is professionally finished with a straight hardwood stock made for both right- and left-hand shooters. The 34 Meisterschutze Pro also has an ambidextrous automatic safety, rifled barrel and two-stage adjustable trigger. This RWS 34 is time-proven power with a sleek design. The 34 Pro's receiver and barrel have a matte finish that provides a rich look. At the front of this 34 Pro rifle is a large muzzlebrake that adds heft and a gripping point for cocking the spring piston. To top off this German made air rifle is an included airgun scope and 1-piece mount. This air rifle scope is a 3-9x40 airgun scope with an adjustable objective. Whether you already own an RWS or this will be your first, you won't be disappointed in the fine German rifle craftsmanship and sleek look.
Aside from the stock configuration, matte finish and large muzzle weight, I think the most significant difference between the two is that the basic 34 has a large wooden trigger. Don't ask me - that's what Umarex claims. Go back and re-read for yourself. Ouch! Splinters! And the Meisterschuetze Pro is immune to termites.
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I would sugest going to the source
November 3 2008, 5:08 PM
If you read the text from M&G, it reads:
"The Professional-Line is designed for shooting with a scope and is therefore generally supplied without sight. All Professional models have a barrel weight for achieving much steadier targeting. The metal surfaces blasted with glass beads which provide a mat finish. Model also available with a 10 cm (3,9") shorter barrel as Compact-Version. (Scope and mount not included)."
Aside from the orthographic issues there are two things to be noted:
1.- The whole discussion started with the Compact version. Umarex does not seem to address the difference.
2.- A matte finish, a straight (non-Monte Carlo) stock, and a muzzle weight do make a different gun from the original, IMHO. We have discussed many times how the harmonics of the barrel upon firing are what determine whether a gun is accurate with a pellet or not. A muzzle weight, especially a large one, does indeed give the gun more "latitude" to tune a vibrational node at the muzzle with slightly different pellets.
3.- The absence of iron sights does indeed point to someone willing to go the extra mile in the accuracy department.
So, again, this only my opinion. It is truly a different gun and one more focused towards function than to form.
It's missing. I was poking a bit of fun using the quotes from Pyramyd. And, yes, they do say the regular 34 has a wooden trigger. So much for proofing the copy.
They're the same rifles we already know, but they come with a chopped barrel and that fat RWS muzzle brake that Airgun Express used to sell. All of a sudden you couldn't buy the brake anywhere in the States anymore, and the reason eventually became clear: RWS/Diana was saving them for their own rifles.
