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Model 46 Stutzen

January 1 2009 at 9:45 AM
John in PA  (no login)
from IP address 205.188.117.15

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Guys, I,ve always wanted one of these for my collection and I,m about to drop the hammer on one since Pyramyd Air dropped the price. Problem still is that I,d really like one in 22 caliber. I,m wondering if anyone out there would have one in 22 cal. that they'd want to sell? I,d even go so far as to buy a new one in 177 cal and trade you for it.
I,d also like to take a second to wish you all a Happy New Year! and thank you all for your tuning business and the kind words about my work. I,m looking foward to a better year and getting to work on alot more of your rifles. I always aim to please. Thanks, John

 
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(Login species0113)
71.114.148.17

Re: Model 46 Stutzen

January 1 2009, 2:39 PM 

Didn't you just get a 46 a couple weeks ago? Must be nice. lol. I haven't messed with mine much since I got the TX.I haven't even put a scope on it yet. Still waiting for my rings from Compasseco. Ive been too busy to bring the TX to you for a tune so I opened her up today and did a relube with JM's stuff and a little polishing on the trigger group. I've been shooting it with no scope or sights. lol. just pointing and shooting at trees trying to get a feel for her. Whens that shoot in Jefferson? I'd like to try and make it over. The only thing I have scoped right now is my 52 and my 34 with the get smart barrel that shoots around corners. lol. Wait til you see that thing. lol. You will not believe how much I had to bend the barrel to correct for a windage problem. Very disappointing for my first new RWS purchase. Oh well, good luck with your Stutzen quest.

 
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Dave@vabch
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68.98.243.152

TX

January 1 2009, 3:29 PM 

Charles, what kind of TX did you get? Please keep us informed on this gun!

Thanks
Dave

 
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(Login species0113)
71.114.148.17

Re: TX

January 1 2009, 6:08 PM 

Its a TX200 MKIII. I got it slightly used off the yellow. It was mint. thanks again Matt

 
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John in PA
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Charles, i love my new 46

January 1 2009, 5:15 PM 

And thats what I,ll be useing at the match next wenesday evening. I,ve been practicing with it since I got it last Saturday and we've been doing great. I,ll have the B40 I used last year along as a spare jusy in case.If you want to borrow a scope or a rifle to use ,let me know.I gotta put some pics of it on here because it,s a beauty!

 
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(Login species0113)
71.114.148.17

Re: Charles, i love my new 46

January 1 2009, 6:26 PM 

What time is that shoot? You say its open to the public right? Do they have a web site? My scope is supposed to be here tomorrow. I bought a Nikko 6-24x56mm mill-dot w/ sidewheel for the TX. I already have a Leapers 4-16x50 for the 46. Both sets of rings will be here monday. Compasseco was the cheapest I could find the Beeman 5030m's and the 5031's. I just did a lube on the 46 since the wife and kids are gone. Not as good of results as the Tx200. The 46 mainspring looked like a snake and shes still twangin. The piston seal had a small nick in the edge and the inside of the gun was bone dry everywhere. Unbelievable. Shes gonna need a kit.

 
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John in PA
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Charles

January 1 2009, 6:50 PM 

I believe they open the shoot at 1:00 pm but I,m not sure. It's on until 8:00pm and it,s open too the public.Its a very nice club with alot of ranges. The website is www.jeffersonsportsmen.org They charge $4.00 to shoot and its a forty shot competition. i hope to see you there!

 
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75.60.220.196

RWS 46 STUTZEn .22

January 2 2009, 5:40 AM 

Hi John
I have been on here and several air gun web sites and have had a request out for a 46 Stutzen in .22 for several years now and havn't come up with anything .

I'd also LOVE TO HAVE ONE IN .22

I'm going to be calling / writing you about doing my RWS 34 .22 that is about 3 yrs old and that I took down and bured and lubed but has all stock parts in it .
I'd like it to shoot abt 750 -800 ? I uses abt abt 14.2 RWS round domes or the RWS Flat nose or the H points .

I don't have a chrony so I have no idea what it is shooting at . The trigger is the 05 version and it's so so I guess I'd like that to be a bit smoother and at about 2 lbs .

But I will give you a call ....Warren sent me some parts and I have a Macarri GRT spring . ( I'll send you all the stuff and if you use it fine if not it's your s .)

I would imagine you want the gun ( after we talk ) sent to you without the scope right ?? )

Jerry Leskovec jleskovec@sbcglobal.net 740-922-8889

 
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Jerry

January 2 2009, 6:54 AM 

if John does your trigger prepare yourself to patch drywall holes in your house LOL

just kidding Jerry but John did one of my 34's and did not tell me about the work he did on the trigger, it will not be the same trigger and you will have to get accustomen to a very light and crisp trigger

this 34 is dated 02/03 with a TO5 trigger, first stage is long and then you feel a small amount of resistace and then it is "BANG" and that travel from 1st to 2nd stage is in milliseconds

none of my other 34's (40 and Panther) have the same pull in the trigger, heck Diana should send all triggers to John before they sell them

warren

PS; John; make Jerry happy, I can vouch for him

 
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64.12.117.15

Jerry, I think everyone wants to hang on to them.

January 2 2009, 8:26 AM 

I tried to find one about a year ago but ,no response. Someday I,ll find one.
As for your 34, 700-750 is do able with a 34 but 800 makes for a very harsh firing cycle and I don,t recomend it at all. The model 48,52,54,350 mag and 460 are more what you want for the 800+ range. Drop me a email and we,ll work it out. John

 
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(Login JerryL944)
75.60.220.196

Info

January 2 2009, 12:25 PM 

Hi John in PA

I am Jerry Leskovec jleskovec@sbcglobal.net and I have talked with Warren several times about You / Your EXCELLENT WORK aside from the raving testimony from what I see on the Forum .

He said he would / did / will contact you about me . I do have a a Smithy 3 in 1 Lathe / Mill but m not sure what to do and what to do with whatever it is I would make ???

I did have you Phone number but it is lost in my pile of rubble on my desk ( New Years resolution CLEAN IT UP and Categorize all the subjects / info / etc .

Anyway ..... I need you , if you care to send me your E-mail and or Phone #


I talked with warren abt and also saw your post about my RWS 34 .22

All I want is what ever it is shooting now to increase it by about 50 -70 ft per sec. and smooth out the trigger to about 2 - 2 1/2 Lbs .

If you care to get back to me let me know your charge including shipping etc . as I said with the gun I'll send you a Maccrie GRT spring and whatever came with it and what Warren sent me .

Jerry Leskovec jleskovec@sbcglobal.net 740-922-8889 Dover / New Philly , Ohio 44683 )

 
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(Login JerryL944)
75.60.220.196

Model 46 Stutzen

January 2 2009, 12:50 PM 

Just to make my WISH / WANT CLEAR . I think the RWS 46 was / is made without the Mannlicher Stock ??

What I am after is the RWS 46 STUTZEN in .22 or ( .25 which I have never heard of ) but anyway WITH THE MANNLICHER STOCK .

I had one offer from a guy in Mexico on a used one in .22 for 500.00 + Shipping etc .

I HAVE A RUGER .22 THAT HAS A FACTORY MADE , Mannlicher Stock . For some reason I can shoot that gun better than any .22 I have ever had . ??

Might all be physiological whatever ..... But I WANT A RWS .22 STUTZEN WITH THE MANNLICHER STOCK .

But I also will not get raped over it . Oh well Wishes are cheep as well as dreams . But they do happen .

Jerry Leskovec JerryL944 jleskovec@sbcglobal.net


 
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RedFeather
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96.231.42.162

Keep looking around

January 2 2009, 1:06 PM 

They do turn up, but they don't go cheap, especially in 22. You might try a wanted on the yellow classifieds or Brad's American Airgun classifieds.

The Ruger Mannlichers are nice looking guns. Don't know why they discontinued that stock. I like the stainless laminated version from WalMart about fifteen years ago.

 
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75.60.220.196

EXACTLY What I have

January 2 2009, 2:29 PM 

It is stainless and a laminate white zebra wood stock .
tack driver up to 120 yrs with the 3x9 scope .

I love that gun ..... I set old style clothes pins up and pop them off to find a dead snag limb on a tree ...puff balls from Dandelion etc .

All I ever do is swab out the bore and take a couple swipes at the bolt . and it's ready to go again the next time out .

I have about 5,000 Rands through mine . I only use a bore snake to clean the bore ... from the breech end .

Jerry

 
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JC
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96.245.42.185

.22 Stutzen

January 11 2009, 7:57 AM 

OK John, here's how you get in the .22 Stutzen business.

Get the .177 Stutzen. Cut and recrown the barrel on your .22 46. move the cocking lever & the front sight assembly from the 46 to the Stutzen. voila, .22 Stutzen.

Now take the remains of the .177 Stutzen and put on the front sight assembly. Mod the cocking handle to fit the new length and voila, a 46 compact. You could easily sell a 46 compact in the US, possibly trade it for a .22....

JC

 
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(Login Troutwhisperer2)
75.85.55.227

the stutzens are running out

January 12 2009, 11:24 PM 

they are down to "limited quantities in stock". fortunatley mine has been shipped. looking forward to it.

 
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(Login johannis)
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Stutzen fans .....

January 13 2009, 1:20 AM 

Dear Stutzen fans: it doesn't matter if you take the .177 or the .22 Stutzen because you will become the owner of the best looking air rifle available ! To compare: the .22 is very "slow" because the action is the same as teh Diana 34 so all of you who know the performance of this rifle can compare .117 / .22 ! I prefer the .177 for the nice and flat bullet traject AND the relative high speed of 263 m./sec. ! For hunting with this .177 you can use the Haendler and Natermann Silver Point ( heaviest pellets of H/N ) what gives you a very "fast" and accurate hunting rifle. I know the American's "like it big" but in these times you have to go for super performance and durability, buy the best for all circumstances happy.gif Best regards from Johannis.

 
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(Login HectorMedina)
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Quite right, my friend!

January 13 2009, 1:00 PM 

The Stutzen is not too suitable for .22" cal.

In 0.177", however, it is a true "Gentleman's birding gun"

In my mind, it goes hand in hand with Loden jackets and hats, mountain air, heavy boots; and the unmistakeable bugle of the red stag deep in the Alpine forests!

A good friend in Austria keeps the trees immediately surrounding his house clear of woodpeckers' holes using a Stutzen in 0.177". He has only had to kill 2, most are intelligent enough to understand with the first few warning shots that they can peck whatever trees they want across the lake, but NOT JUST BY the house, LOL!
Curiously enough, and another show of how intelligent and adaptable wildlife can be, they know they can eat in the ground wherever they want, but they have learned that making holes on trees by the house is a definite no-no.

Wish some kids were THAT smart! ROFL!



Un Abrazo!




H�ctor

 
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(Login Troutwhisperer3)
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Hector, you are a true romantic.

January 13 2009, 1:33 PM 

and my kids are absolutely untrainable!

 
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(Login johannis)
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Good description ..........

January 14 2009, 2:59 PM 

Good description of a funny ( little bit fat ) Bavarian guy with a Stutzen in his hand and smoking an old fashioned stone-pipe with a metal cap on it ! I like your way of writing and thinking very much Hector ! This is the portrait of the average "Bayrische Waldjáger" ! And yesL with his Stutzen of course, beste regards from Johannis.

 
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JC
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Stutzen fans

January 13 2009, 3:38 PM 

Johannis,

I have 46's in .177 and .22. You are right in your analysis of the .177 having enough speed to have good shooting characteristics. The .177 is just under 12 fpe and the .22 just under 14 fpe. The .177 gives you a good range of flat trajectory; I don't know if the .22 has a flat spot at all; seems like I'm sending out a lob. All that notwithstanding, I find the .22 is a fun gun to shoot. It carries good downrange energy and has predictable pellet drop, so it is also highly accurate if you compensate. I mostly use it for plinking for the way it moves around tin cans and spinners vs the .177 mosquito bite. Its all good!

JC

 
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Dave@vabch
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68.98.243.152

17.cal the best all around pellet

January 14 2009, 6:36 PM 

Jan, you have convinced me that the 17.cal is the best all around pellet for most air guns and especially the TX and the Stutzen.

Thanks
Dave

 
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RedFeather
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96.231.42.162

Hey, it's a matter of taste

January 14 2009, 7:51 PM 

My Haenel III is in .22 and, while not a powerhouse (now or seventy years ago), it is a very pleasant gun to shoot. I think I would not like it in .177 quite as well since it reminds me very much of a pre-WWII German rimfire. Don't get me wrong, I do like the .177. And that caliber is much easier to find off the shelf, more and more so these days. Also have a Diana 50e tap loader in .22 and it seems to be a choice of caliber for this system. Not so much as regards power as in ease of loading.

If you want a Stutzen in .22, keep your eye out. Of course, if you come across a great deal in .177, by all means, snap it up. Can't hurt to have two if you can afford it.

 
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JC
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Stutzen in .22

October 7 2009, 5:58 PM 

Hay John, Check it out....wonder if they really have them???

http://www.dlairgun.com/Diana.html

 
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(Login lettercarrier)
173.65.2.201

is that in

October 8 2009, 5:16 PM 

Canadian money or US dollars'

$649.00 plus shipping for a Stutzen in .22 cal???

and 690 FPS in .22 with what pellet grain??

warren

and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

 
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RedFeather
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So, if you are lusting after a Stutzen

October 8 2009, 6:23 PM 

Why'd you buy that 631? Dontcha wish Slavia made a nice stutzen with the same care and QC as the 630 series?

 
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JC
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diminishing returns

October 9 2009, 2:29 PM 

"690 FPS in .22 with what pellet grain"

My 46's in .22 shoot 14.4g at around 660 fps; going to beeman lasers does not net as much as 690 and you then can' hit anything. It is an extremely accurate lob that carries more whack than the 800 fps cpl's that the .177's shoot.

 
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