I was hard to decide but went for the 460, I should have it tomorrow so I should soon know if I have made the right choice, anyway thanks for the info.
Barry.g

Enjoy it,it's a great gun............Robin

Refresh my memory Barry; I thought you were looking at a 460 in .22 that was 12fpe in a local shop. What is this "ordered today" thing??? Are you getting a .177 somehow?

when you order over there do you have to run it by anybody to certify the gun is <=12 fpe?

The UK importer is RUAG and are the ones that have two 460 .22 only in stock and are detuned for the UK laws like the hw80 and the diana 48/54 and a lot more, I have heard of a sub 12 ft/lb Webley Patriot non fac.
I ordered from my local gun shop who can get them next day from the importers but they say tomorrow now.
I will report as soon as I have tested it.
Regards Barry.g