Accuracy is very subjective, to some guys its hitting a golf ball at 20yards and others is hitting an asprin at 40. Im a city guy , born in raised in.
But Im a farm boy at heart.Anyways I dont get to shoot long range anything,
so I dont know what is considered accurate for a 34 . Im almost hole in hole at 10 yards and my max range is about 18 yards which I dont get to shoot to often, the negibors got a thing about pellets wizzing by thier kids, theyre kinda funny that way .So I dont shoot a whole lot beyond those ranges.
Now I got the chance to go to the range the other day and set up some targets and my 34 was making 2 inch groups at 25 yards . now that just doesnt seem right to me .I assume some of it might be my fault , but Jeez , this seemed way off .
So im asking is the 34 capeable of making tighter groups at 25 and 35 yards?
Ill probably go back this week to try to redeem myself. I broke my gun down and wiped off the excess moly , I thought this might have been a problem, and I tried it out at ten yards and Im almost hole on hole , ie: they're all touching.
so what do you guys think are the capeabilites of the 34 ?
Some pellets will group great at 10 yards, but their accuracy can drop off dramatically at 25 or 30. So it might be the pellets. It doesn't sound like it's your form if you're getting one hole groups at 10 yards, but I'd still try shooting various groups using different holds and see if that makes a difference. I can consistently get sub 1" groups with my 34 panther in .22 at 30 yards.
regards, Scott
Ok, so you guys are saying dime size or penny size holes are what could be expected from a 34 .
Thats what I needed to know. Is that out of the box accuarcy or is that with a tuned gun?
I took my 34 out to the range today I set my targets up at 25 and 40 yards
It was slightly windy 5-10 mile an hour breezes. my groups were between 1/2 and 1 1/2 inch at 25 yards. with a couple of bullseyes . I wasnt proud of my shooting here. I was useing exsacts.
I found a sweet spot was doing Ok at 40 yards no bulls eyes but close.
I found a beer can and was consistantly hitting it at 50 yards with both my 34 and 350 . and I found a few 4 inch orange clay pigeons and made some hits at 70 yards ! But not consistant. I think my holdover was 10 -12 inches at that range. I thought it was 50 yards when I set it up , but I used a range finder and it came back at 70 yards
It was kinda difficult to gauge if the misses were me or the wind , I suspect a little of both.
My gun hasnt been professionaly tuned , Ive done some lube and trigger work on them myself.
I dont do a lot shooting at those ranges , but Id like to get out there more during the warmer weather. maybe I just need to practice more more , I dunno .
I'm not that good of a shot. The gun shoots better than I do. Sometimes I get into "The Zone" and I can do some great shooting. But after my usual morning pot of coffee and my 51 year old nerves and muscles, I'm nowhere near any Field Target Champion. I just love shooting airguns for fun.
A lot of people think of the Model 34 as an entry level airgun. I strongly disagree. The gun shoots as good as any "out of the box" airgun and responds to a tune as well as any R9. I always have a 34 beside my back door.
Rob
Re: i would say that with a 5-10 mph variable wind
March 23 2009, 5:31 PM
Well thanks for the responses guys , Now I can kinda gauge where am at.
Now Ive shot rifles before , and Ive always been a hell of shot in the milatary , and did pretty well with the pistol when I was in law enforcement.
But I have to admit Im haveing some trouble getting the same results with these rifles. Part of the reason I like them is the challenge to master them .
for what I really use them for"rat busting" at 10-18 yards theyre dead on nuts accurate , Poor rats dont have a chance if they wander into my KZ.and the 22. wadcutters are rat stoppers.they dont even give much of a death kick just drop dead right where I shot em.
Ive run out of rats to kill, I have to wait till a new family moves into thier old burrows useally in about 6-8 weeks
Have you tried RWS Superdomes? They seem to shoot very well with most Diana guns and it's the #1 pellet for my 36 .177 ("same" as your 34) and also with another 350 .22 I used to have.
Also make sure you hold the gun the same way every time. If you hold it differently you will get different results, especially with a non-tuned gun. "Off-the-shelf" Springers are hold sensitive, even tuned guns.
Does the gun turn in your hand a little (torquing) while it's shooting or do you feel it ending up in a different position after the shot?
Is it "twaangy"? Torquing and twang symptoms can contribute to accuracy issues as well, but can be resolved with a good tune. A lube-tune can only do so much. Sometimes you have to go all the way.. but keep trying and use different pellets!
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Diana 350 .22 aka "Old Tim" (J.W. tuned)
Diana 36 .177 CDT tuned
Lemak custom AF Condor .25
Talon Tunes AF Condor .25
Airhog tuned AF Condor .22
RWS Hammerli 850 .22
Crosman 2300XT Custom .22
Other Crosman Pump & CO2 .177
Ya got some great advice here on this thread!! I must agree with Harry,, I think you should try some RWS Super Domes. My current 34,, tuned by J Woodcock,,(he tunened Harrys 350 also)LOVES em!!. I think Harry is shooting JSB,s in his 350 now? I may also add,,, I have owened/set up MANY 34,s that LOVED Gamo Hunters,,(22 cal.) I have had GREAT luck with the Hunters in many 34,s & 48,s pertaining to consistant accuracy. They seem to me to be alot "softer" than CP,s,, kinda like JSB,s in that respect. Like said above, some guns just prefer a certain type of pellet,, that my Friend is an INDISPUTABLE FACT!! Keep after it "Hold Over",,, your on the right track!! "Old Tim".
