I have seen it referred to here a couple of times. Would someone give me the procedure for cleaning and lubeing pellets. I bought a new Marauder and John Thomas has my 52 doing a tune and I would like to start off with both of these guns with lubed pellets. I have read it makes a difference.

Also where can I find out how to post pictures here. I have heard Photo-bucket referred to. I have a nice 48 in .177 I am going to sell thus the need for pictures.

Thanks Mike

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Ballistol,The greatest for for guns, stocks, cleaning pellets etc.~!!!!

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http://www.ballistol.com/product_Firearms.htm

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This stuff works great. I use it for everything. I once bought a can of antique pellets. Boy were they bad. Sprayed a little Ballistol in the can, next morning they looked like brand new.Fantastic at removing rust and protecting the stock. It actually penetrates into the stock. I once bought a gun that had been in the warehouse out of the box for years. It had something splashed on the stock. I could not get it off. Sprayed ballistol on the stock, and bingo the spots were completely gone the next morning. By the way it is non-toxic, you could actuallly drink it. I even shine my shoes with it.

Dave@vabc

I usually dont bother washing them, lubinf only, usually with napier pellet lube.
Few drops(/sprays) on a hand full, swirl pellets around, let them 'dry' over night, done.
I ónly use lubed in pcp and co2 by the way, and only to prevent barrel rust.
Dont use it for springer. Certainly not thát stuff, causes dieseling. Wax only for springers!
Some pellets are lubed from factory, Baracuda match, Eun Jins (oil!).

If you do a web search you will find out that Ballistol is mineral oil ( baby oil ) the main part. you can buy it anywhere for a lot less than the brand name (Ballistol) howie

I use the Tom Gaylord method: 10 drops of Shooter's Choice FP-10 or Ballistol on a sponge cut from the CP packing sponge. Put pellets in, but don't pack tight. If you are in a hurry, gently turn it; otherwise, walk it around a while.

Since when does mineral dissolve rust? I have a can of it right here in front of me and it clearly reads that it has a derivative of hexane

Isohexane (also known as 2-methylpentane) is an isomer of hexane. Its properties are essentially identical with n-hexane. Undiluted Ballistol can infact be used on electrical componets. Mineral oil will not dissolve Black Powder. Ballistol will. I suggest you try the product before you knock it. The bottom line is Ballistol works great, in fact it does wonders. Just mineral oil, sheeze!BALLISTOL protects from corrosion, lubricates, cleans and acts against residues of powder, lead, copper and tombac. It creeps into finest fissures and dissolves old soilings and resins of unsuited oils. It neutralises combustion residues. It also cleans, maintains and preserves the wooden stock and leather gunslings. The product has more then it share of folks that have given it 5 star rating.

Dave

I am constantly amazed that people will spend big bucks on an airgun, a fly rod, or a Kubota tractor and then be unwilling to spend a few cents more for well known brands of lubricants or tippet material. There seems to a constant urge to finder a slightly cheaper replacement for Ballistol, Crossman Pell Gun oil, or quality fluorocarbon tippet material. It doesn't make much sense.

Mike Tipton

as has been already mentioned, lubed pellets for PCP's only, which tend to rust if shot with dry pellets (water vapor in pressurized air condensing). Not so good for a springer as increases the chances of dieseling.

and that means MOST of our guns.

I use Pledge/Blem precisely because it is not liquid and dries to a solid using heat. Pledge / Blem will NOT diesel under ANY circumstance once dry.

JMHO

Now, if you want to clean your barrel after a few sessions, it's up to you. I have better things to do.



Un Abrazo!




H�ctor

Look it up in Ballistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia thats who says Ballistol is made from mineral oil .The main ingredient is mineral oil.

Howie, If I were you I would not use it. I would just go ahead and use mineral oil and save the dollars. It is about as obvious as a wart on the end of a nose that the other ingredients work as a catalyst or agent for the oil. But hey, maybe for years the company is nothing but a scam. You use your mineral oil and I will more then gladly Pay the $7.00 for the 6oz. I paid for it. When you can actually show me when Mineral oil will dissolve rust and corrosion and the other many things Ballistol does, I will continue to buy more of the product. In fact, I am thinking of buying a very large bulk container of it, because it has worked so well for so many varied applications, it really is worth a whole lot more.

Good Luck Howie.

dave

Mike, I am also surprised by this constant looking for ways to "improve" te quality of pellets or rifles. Why not spend 1$ more on a tin of 500 pellets and be sure to have super quality of JSB or Haendler and Natermann ? I don't know, I think people like it to do some experiments and share what they found. During my 30 years of air rifle shooting the advise of an older shooter is still working well: "to keep the barrel clean put some drips of Ballistol in the barrel and fire two pellets". This will keep the barrel rustfree, free of lead residu, lubricated etc. etc. Do this on regular base and your rifle's barrel will stay in perfect condition. Best regards from Johannis.

They are either rolled (cheap) or swaged on two piece dies (good).

In BOTH cases, lubricants are used that have very high surface tension, for slow processes under high pressures.

When you FIRE the pellet the relation is inverse: high velocities and light pressures. At least axially between lead and barrel.

So you NEED different lubricants, even in the finest pellets. The needs are simply different.

A drop or two of ballistol in the bore and then firing the pellet works with any oil because a high temperature point will create a reductive atmosphere. Thereby reducing the rust that could have formed.

Use whatever you want, just make sure you TRY lubed pellets before saying they do not improve the shooting characteristics of airguns.

'Nuff said.



Un Abrazo!




H�ctor

Truth or urban legend that CP's lead the barrel if traveling greater than say 800 fps and should be lubed to avoid this.

And that alloy leads barrels easily.

It is better for transportation, as pellets are harder and get less damaged, but they do tend to lead barrels.

HTH



Un Abrazo!




H�ctor

I've needed to clean. I'd guess I have about 50,000 or so pellets now and
what I've been using sparringly to lube them is Slick 50 One Lube. I've
used it for about 5 years and had no problems with damaging or potentially
damaging dieselling/detonation in springers. Haven't did any airgun barrel
cleaning in a long time other than cleaning the barrel on a few new guns
I've purchased.

I've used some of the other stuff, crap, whatever in the past and didn't
like it. What I like about the Slick 50 One Lube is visually I notice
nothing and I don't have messy, oily fingers. Also no stick, no smell.

Handy having the stuff around for other lube applications too.

no stick either

Ballistol (meaning 'Ballistic Oil') is a mineral oil-based chemical which advertises that it has many uses. It was originally intended for cleaning, lubricating, and protecting firearms. The product originated from Germany before World War II, after the military requested an 'all-around' oil and cleaner for their rifles and equipment.

The chemical is a yellowish clear liquid with a consistency expected of a light oil. However, when it comes in contact with water it emulsifies, becoming a thick creamy white substance. It has a sweet and mildly pungent smell similar to black licorice. It is distributed in liquid and aerosol forms. The aerosol uses butane or propane as a propellant.

One of its selling points is that it is not petro-chemical based, and uses biodegradable ingredients. It also advertises it has no carcinogens. Some other similar chemicals contain petro-chemicals which can pollute the environment if improperly handled, and can damage the 'SEASONING' DEVELOPED ON THE BORE OF A BLACK POWDER GUN.


Ingredients: according to a specification from December 2002

pharmaceutical white oil: CAS RN 8042-47-5
Oleic acid: CAS RN 112-80-1
C-5 alcohols: CAS RN 78-83-1; CAS RN 137-32-6; CAS RN 100-51-6
different essential oils to perfume Ballistol


Warren

PS: and Howie is crazy like a FOX


and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"