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Shooting the FWB 300s

July 17 2009 at 2:35 PM
  (Login LARRYPIRRONE)
from IP address 67.72.98.95

 
i have had the gun out of the stock for the last week or so doing some stock refinish. the stock is looking marvelous in its rubbed true oil finish. it is not done but i am at that state where i will let it sit for a week before i continue to rub coats once a week for a month.

i was shooting it this afternoon. man, this thing is amazing. it is shooting
611 fps with JSB express 7.9. extremely accurate. absolutely no perceived recoil. because there is no recoil you can very easily tell where a shot is going to go when the trigger breaks. what i also notice is that because it is relatively low velocity that follow threw is more critical because of dwell time. good training.this is a very nice indoor gun. it is not noisy at all.

this particular rifle was made in 1972. it exhudes quality. either it was used mostly indoors or someone took very good care of it. the metal is in great shape and the blueing is excellent. the stock had darkened from age. after stripping and refinishing it is just beautiful. it will only get better in a few weeks of final work.

the rifle is heavy. as heavy as a D52 in beech. heavier than my walnut tx200.

i am down to two guns now. this one and my tx 200. i feel like i have it covered. except, maybe now i need a pistol.

 
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Xristos
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94.64.25.161

Ouaaaou speed !

July 17 2009, 3:19 PM 

I use to shoot with 532 Baikal when i am tired from recoil from spring guns ! It is producing 488 fps with 8.4 JsB and it is SSP . I enjoy the fantastic trigger and the accuracy even i 40-50m happy.gif ! Have you put a scope in 300S ?

 
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(Login lettercarrier)
72.91.245.18

you had 3 now only 2

July 17 2009, 3:23 PM 

Larry:

I have your 3'rd air gun the 46 stutzen, absolutly beautiful and well taken care off thank you

now I will power down the stutzen from 800 to 600 fps with 7.9 gr. pellets and will shoot a match with your FWB 300 but you have to give me an advantage what about 5 yards?? shooting 20

warren

PS: I don't expect to win LOL





and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

 
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(Login dvdrit)
88.203.5.45

Larry,

July 17 2009, 11:45 PM 

What you have there is a finely engineered airgun.
If you translate its german name, it is exactly that.

Enjoy your 300, I consider such guns as family heirlooms and deserve top spot in our collection.
D

 
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six-shooter
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64.149.233.212

Now you need a Fwb65 or a Fwb80 match pistol...

July 19 2009, 2:28 AM 

to compliment your 300S. Same recoiless mechanism, same fine workmanship, same fine trigger, same one hole accuracy. Then you might find yourself wanting more guns made by Feinwerkbau, a Fwb124 perhaps. Then you are going to wake up one day realizing that you have morphed into a shooter/collector. The horror, the horror... happy.gif

Best Regards,
Sixto

 
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(Login LARRYPIRRONE1)
75.85.55.227

those pistols sound interesting

July 19 2009, 5:59 AM 

i never see them listed for sale. thy probably go for more than the rifles due to their scarcity.

 
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six-shooter
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64.149.233.212

Re: those pistols sound interesting

July 19 2009, 6:54 AM 

The Fwb65 usually cost about the same as the 300S, the Fwb80 will fetch a higher price because Feinwerkbau manufactured less of these. The Fwb80 has a trigger blade that is more adjustable for position, plus a very noble way of adding weights to the lower receiver without affecting the movement of the upper receiver & barrel. You are correct about the overall availability of these pistols compared to the rifle.

Best Regards,
Sixto

 
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Randy
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66.36.123.38

Re: FWB 300S and 65

July 24 2009, 1:50 AM 

Hi Larry,

I have owned all of the 10M match guns over the years, it became apparent why the 300S and the 65 pistol were so famous ounce I owned them. Though I am a devoted Anschutz gun owner the 300S is more durable than the Anschutz 250 match. The design was great in its day, the only sad part is to why they discontinued the 300S and 65 pistol as to me in airguns they are legends and there is no reason as to why the guns would not sell well today even with the modern PCP match guns etc. The system on both guns was easy to maintain and accuracy was tops. Probably a bold statement but these were the best two airguns ever made all the way around, pistol and rifle.

 
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Héctor J Medina G
(Login HectorMedina)
69.126.238.114

It's inevitable

July 25 2009, 5:38 AM 

Progress is.

AS good as the 300 was the 600 SSP was even better. Less maintenance, more reliability and consistency.

Better gun all around.

One thing that is not mentioned often is that the 600 is still in production. Why? Some shooters like the inherent independence of the SSP. I had both, the 300 and the 600 (and a Diana 100, but that is another story). Had I not stepped into the higher power realms like FT and IBHYS, I would probably have kept the 600, but not the 300. For economic reasons I had to sell the 600, but it is one of those decisions I have always regretted.

Yes the 300 was the FINEST gun IN ITS DAY. It was so good that it brought a change in the way the Olympic Match is shot. It was the first to produce a perfect score, there are millions of them out there, well loved and cared for.

And then came the 600, it was a better gun than the Diana 100 because the trigger on the Diana, though much more adjustable and finer on the release, was a nightmare for gunsmiths. The 600 was the first to produce another perfect score in the "new" 60 rounds Match and it brought a reduction in the dot size from 1 mm to 1/2 mm.

Nowadays, there is nothing you cannot achieve with a well tuned 54 that you could achieve with a 300 more than 20 years ago.

FWB 300's are good, accurate, robust, solid guns. They were the inspiration for the 54. They are not hard to maintain, but they do require some maintenance over a year's worth of shooting if you're shooting it intensively. Not hard to do because FWB still sends out free replacements for some items, but a chore none the less.

Current state of the art, either in SSP or PCP Match guns is such that the last round of Olympic Matches is decided on the 1/10 ths' of points measured electronically using an outside scoring system because the guns are so perfect. Shooters have also advanced a lot, but on that end I usually laugh a little on my insides because I know what happens when you strip an Olympic competitor of all the gizmos and gadgets and you make him shoot on his own true, lonely, simple un-aided self.

JMHO



Un Abrazo!




H�ctor

 
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I laugh with you

July 25 2009, 4:01 PM 

Hector:

"Current state of the art, either in SSP or PCP Match guns is such that the last round of Olympic Matches is decided on the 1/10 ths' of points measured electronically using an outside scoring system because the guns are so perfect. Shooters have also advanced a lot, but on that end I usually laugh a little on my insides because I know what happens when you strip an Olympic competitor of all the gizmos and gadgets and you make him shoot on his own true, lonely, simple un-aided self."


shoot the M34 and it will humble you, it is you and a $200.00 air gun against a target not a $2,000 or a $10,000 air gun

pick a target, live or paper and see what happens

a simple "un-aided self" has to do ALL the work and hit a bull's eye, no state of the art technology just the shooter the air gun and the target

warren

PS: did you miss or HIT

and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

 
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Randy
(Login big52)
66.36.123.42

Match guns and sporters

July 26 2009, 1:24 AM 

As far as I know the 600 series was discontinued this year by FWB which leaves it with the 300S as well, I have seen some 603 models still available from dealers but are the last of their stock now. This means that the whole 10m thing is all PCP now as far as I know. Some may still use the SSP 600 series but this is what I am trying to get at, is the fact that the 300S with its roots going back to the 150 had been a very durable and time tested match gun. I am shure that the newer equipment has a distinct advantage over the older 300 gun as lock time with no piston moving and no sliding action would provide a advantage. These advantages can only be utitilized by someone who is trying for perfection and this is noted. In silhouette you can use no coats gloves etc. over here and I will take a Silhouette rifle which is basically a match gun which is modified either at factory or at the owners disrection any day over a sporter if we are to compete in the same event.

 
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