I picked up an older RWS 34 on the Yellow. Just got it yesterday and at 10m it is shooting about a foot low and a foot right even with elevation and windage maxed out.

I mounted a scope and the barrel is obviously pointing to the right of the center of the scope. I think so much that there is no way to shim the mounts.

So my question is...is this common with 34s? I mean droop. What is the recommended course of action? Bend barrel carefully using a jig or use a droop mount? I guess the windage issue might have to be rectified by adjusting the dovetail rail? It appears to be screwed on.

Looking for any advice on correcting this problem so thanks for any and all advice.

Andy

Andy Wong aka larspawn@ameritech.net

Andy:

that is not common for a M34 or for any Diana, your barrel is bent (that M34 is Bent really bad) use a JIG before you shim it, a wast of time to correct with shims

FLASH light test

the light will be true and will tell you where the barrel is BENT

either from the end of the barrel or the front

you will have to dissasemble the barrel from the action and put a light into the barrel or place the barrel with the receiver in a jig where the barrel poinys straigh an true

your call with whaever you want to do

warren

Warren, thanks for the reply. Yeah I was thinking no way to shim this one. So what exactly is the Flashlight test?

Andy Wong aka larspawn@ameritech.net

"I guess the windage issue might have to be rectified by adjusting the dovetail rail? It appears to be screwed on."

they are not SCREWS but RIVET's that rail does not use screws they look like crews Phillips #2 but are not

warren


and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

34s will shoot low when shooting at a very close range, also make sure your scope is mounted correctly and true and is a decent grade optic. Best thing to do first is setup scope and mounts correctly then try sighting in at a further range like 20 yards and see how it adjusts and groups before doing anything drastic.

and it was not disclosed by its seller i would not give him a pleasant BOI. he had to know it was off.

Assuming the seller is honest and the gun made it through the shipment process OK, it could be a scope problem. Try the iron sights to see if that shoots straight.

PS - Most Dianas do have droop, but not THAT much.

JC:

"I picked up an older RWS 34 on the Yellow. Just got it yesterday and at 10m it is shooting about a foot low and a foot right even with elevation and windage maxed out. "

that shooting at 10 m is 12" low and 12" right this is an air rifle that shoots around CORNER's

the barrel has to be UN-BENT and Tim Meredith is the one that can do this

Warren

PS: TIMBO where are YOU?????? please respond


and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

This barrel is obviously bent ,order a barrel from Umerex, and be done with it. why mess around with a damaged barrel?

not by me

Re: Original 35 Super August 10 2009, 10:42 AM

You can straighten it. What do you have to loose? It's screwed up now...

You need a piece of pipe, a vise, and a very bright light. Remove the bbl. Clamp the barrel in the vise and bend it slowly. ause the reflection of the lampalong the barrel to guide your bends.

I did it on a Hy Score 801 and it still shoots GREAT!

ZVP


warren






and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

You know a barrel costs over $140 from Umarex? In contrast, I recently bought a refurb/demo .22 panther from them for less.

Hey guys, nothing fancy. Placed the action between two 2x4s and clamped down with a quick clamp. Placed a rag on the barrel and took to it with a few sharp whacks of my deadblow mallet. It worked! Here's a 10 shot grouping at 25 yards off hand. Okay so I drink too much coffee. I called the one at 2 o'clock. I'm more than satisfied! Then I took 3 shots at my swinger out at 50 yards. 2 out of 3 and I was zeroed at 25! Yippee!

now that didn't hurt so bad did it...good show...

mailto:flyingdragonairrifles@hotmail.comhttp://www.airgunartisans.com/flyingdragon/

Mike, you know my airgun addiction heads back to you right? I was on vacation a bit over a year ago in Playa Del Carmen. You can only drink so much so I did the airgun competition. Well I won the competition by something like 275 points (I only shot at the smallest highest point targets). Besides getting to go on stage at the night performance with all the hoochie mamas I was bitten by the bug. When I got home I bought a Gamo Big Cat which out of the box sucked so bad I put it away after a dozen shots.

Wait the story goes on...many months later I tuned it with a Maccari spring and seal. It shot really well and all was fine. Didn't shoot much but then I bought a QB78d in .22 from you and then it was all down hill from there. Mine is so powerful and a proverbial tack driver. Went on to buy a Crosman 2250b from Joe Cuz and a b26 from Howie, both of which you tuned. So more than a dozen rifles later I'm a fanatic!

All this I (gleefully) blame on you!

Andy Wong aka larspawn

right behind you

MM has sold me some GEM's which I still keep

warren

PS: that b26 from Howie was once mine and before it was from MM

Okay so now I can record the "provenance" of the rifle so when I give this to my son he'll have the complete history. That is because I doubt I'll ever sell it. While not the most powerful it does have a sweet cycle to it.

Andy Wong aka larspawn

p.s. so what's your handle Warren? Don't think we've met before. I'll watch for you on the board.

Andy Wong aka larspawn@ameritech.net

Andy:

you do not know me but I know you

Die Hard air rifle fanatic, read your posts at the GTA forum, level headed and full of the right stuff just stay away from the Gamo air rifles LOL

warren

PS: Take care

and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

Thursday afternoon I took a used 34 out of the delivery box, loaded a 11 year old, no name pellet into the barrel and shot at a can ~twenty yards away. Adjusted the open sights, loaded another pellet and hit a ~two inch target at about the same distance. Third pellet, another hit on same size at ~fifteen yards.

That night I removed the stock and rear sight and thoroughly cleaned everything, While cleaning the rear sight though, I noticed that there is, what I would describe as, a lot of side to side play in the rear of the block. The rear of the block will shift and stay put at about 1/16" either way.

Today I tried to set zero at a measured 30 yards. I turned the elevation screw to 8 to get to center of target, but ran out of pellets trying to get a consistent windage adjustment. With so much unintended side movement, the open sights can never be acceptably accurate.

The rifle is used but in very good condition. All screws are tight, nothing is stripped, bent or broken. I don't have an extra scope to mount right now, but I would prefer to use open sights anyway, preferably those already on the rifle. Has anyone else had this experience?

start by finding where the loose part is, front pin? Can't remember the make up of the 34 sights right now but if you spend some time finding out why it moves then you may be able to fix it...

part #15 405-17-0391 302251 lever pin $3.40

is to loose, if you dissasemble it and put it back together you will have to tighten it to the right pressure

to loose and it limp's when you cock it

to tight and it is a bear to cock

find out by firing and then either loose the pressure on the pin or tighten it more after you shoot it

the rear guide sits on top of that pin and you will get a small variance if it does not cock with the correct pressure on that front pin

warren

I've spent a lot of time with the rifle lately and it's the rear sight that's bugging me. Also, I have now adjusted the rear sight, after gently sticking it to the farthest left reach of it's movement, almost an eighth of an inch in the same direction. That MUST be too much for a healthy rifle. The elevation adjustment is considerable at a measured 30 yards, but not my primary concern/problem. The amount of play in the rear sight is significant but I discovered something else last night. The cocking arm was rubbing against the stock on the left side so I cut a shim at .035" thickness and put it between the stock and the mounting bracket. This put the arm roughly in the middle of the fore end channel. It was windy so a test fire really didn't help me determine if that was adding to the poor accuracy. I'd like to give some center to center group sizes and feedback like that, but I know that the rifle isn't shooting straight. I just don't know why.

Any suggestions?

I didn't mean to hijack this thread, so I hope that the OP got the problem squared away. If it pleases the folks here, I can start a new thread.