Did anyone else buy a current Beeman HW-30 and get a suprise that it comes with a Rekord Trigger? I bought mine about 16 months ago and it also came with a soft Red Rubber buttpad and long foreend.

 With the exception of not having a checkered stock, this thing is a quasi R-7.  I don't have a chrony but I'd say it does the advertised 675fps (.177).

 Sweet little target rifle.

 ZVP

Probably one of the best deals out there. I guess that is the HW s which I read about some time ago that they were going to start exportings again.

dave@vabch

HW30S

Weihrauch HW30S

A superior, light and well-balanced air rifle of excellent accuracy for the whole family. Automatic safety, precision adjustable "Rekord" trigger, tunnel front sight with interchangeable inserts, micrometer rear sight adjustable for windage and elevation, beechwood stock with long and handy forearm and cheekpiece, rubber buttplate.
Model # Caliber Overall Length Barrel Length Weight Velocity
1060 .177 38.78" 15.5" 5.5 lbs 700 fps

$299.00

Great Buy for this classic!

Dave@vabc

On the Weihrauch website, full power .177 HW30 rifles are rated at 623 fps muzzle velocity.
In the USA, the same guns, when advertised by distributors, are touted as 675-700 fps.
Is there something special in the US air??

Yes, its called bull. You can find it in almost any part of the country , But experts agree the stongest bull comes from DC. its really loaded with it , Its a vast natural resource. Were the biggest exporters of Bull in the world!In fact, we lead the world in Bull exports. We manufacture our own Bull right here in the US. and US consumers are one of the largest consumers of bull.wheter natural bull from DC , or the common commercial grade, or even synthetic Bull.

An exsample of natural Bull is :

I can put 8 rounds into the ten ring of a moveing target at 450 yards useing open sights useing my 177 Gamo Hunter.while fireing off a moveing boat at sea during a driveing rain storm.

Or the new health care plan is going to help every one and not even raise taxes to do it!

"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office."

The Decider


I think the nation has finally figured it out! Thanks alot!

Dave@vabch

 Maybe it's an "S" Model?  The sight is the basic one tho.

 Velocity is a guess, It's no barn-burner but sufficent for 20 yard paper etc.

 Maybe I just got lucky with this one, sure like it!

 ZVP

Lots of people hunt squirrels with the R7/HW30. I might get one someday to go with my HW50S.

-TKM-

You sir, have the HW30-(S) model, which comes with the Rekord trigger, instead of the Perfekt trigger. All S-models of HW's come with the Rekords and are the exact same rifles as their Beeman counterparts, except for a few slight variations in the stock design. The HW stock designs typically favor a more European preference, while the Beeman versions have stocks that have more American appeal.

ebruary 16, 2009
Weihrauch HW35E - The Last "CLASSIC"
If you are an airgunner of many years like each of us here, you have been around long enough to see a change in the build style and types of airguns made today. While many airguns are extremely nice today, they all lack that classic look and style of the past. That is, with one exception

A highly experienced factory located in Mellrichstadt, Germany is responsible for designing and building many classic-sporting airguns. In the early years they were imported by Air Rifle Headquarters as HW models, and then by Robert Beeman in years to follow. Like many of the other classics these rifles have been taken out of production, with the blame placed on cost to build and low demand. Aside from the used market, these classics are not available for purchase, save one, the Weihrauch HW35E.

The Classic Weihrauch HW35E AirgunSporting a very classic walnut stock, complete with grooved fore end, a white line spacer and grip cap as well as checkered grip panels, the Weihrauch HW35E is the last classic. So, what makes is so special? The HW35E sports a barrel lock-up device that was common in the early years to provide a break barrel spring gun with the strength and rigidity needed for competitive shooting. Popular models from the past that utilized this same concept were the Weihrauch HW55 and the Walther LG55 as well as many others. Weihrauch HW35E Breech With Lock UpToday you do not see this design in use, as break barrel spring guns are now categorized as hunting rifles, not competitive rifles. The HW35E also has a precision-machined rear cylinder cap that is threaded into the spring cylinder rather than pinned in place.

We encourage you to take this opportunity to purchase and own a modern classic while they are still available. Judging by the pattern shown in all spring gun factories, quantity, not quality, is steering their production, and very few quality factories, like Weihrauch, are still building spring rifles.

posted by Airguns of Arizona at 1:40 PM

Based on the info in this string, it appears that P.A. gave me a heck of a deal, I used a 20% cupon and got the rifle for a measly $184 and change! Thanks for confirming my suspisions.

 Man that Rekord is some sort of trigger! I love my 3 ball Diana's but the Rekord can be set to such light and precise settings that even with my dedication to the Diana3 ball and the current one and two screw modulars, the Rekord is still a better piece of machienery. I have one on my (545fps) HW-55 target rifle and my hot R-11 and love them all! Adjustment is so easy, it can be set repeatedlly alike. I have set all three alike then decided to taylor each to a specific point which best drains each rifle's chore instead.

 Back in "The Old Days" small target squirrels didn't know 600-700fps air rifles were not hot enough for hunting and quite a few dropped to such rifles... Today I am sure that stalking within range would still bring results. We all know that accurate pellet placement is the key and the little HW-30 is plenty accurate enough.

 Today we also have the Hyper Velocity pellets and a 15 yard shot with one will definatelly penetrate enugh

A few posts ago Hector mentioned that only a bit over 200 fps would be needed to break a varmits skin and whatever velocity was left above this would ensure penetration to vitals on Fur bearing pests. Feathered pests as Robert Hamelton has proven could be taken with even longer shots from an accurate sub-700 fps .177.

 Naturally, the shooter must know his equipment and his limits however this class of rifle makes a fine field companion!

 ZVP

 

Your HW30 at $184. is the best buy, best value I have seen!

dave@vabch

Dave,

 It was one of those "Newspsper" sale papers that they mail out. Most have a coupon with em and usually great prices too! I was gonna buy a HW-50 in .22 but wasa touch short of it. I'd loved my HW-55 so much that I took a chance that the HW-30 would just be close to it and be a decent plinker.

 I suppose the look on my face when I opened the carton and saw it was priceless! Just could not believe what trigger I saw... Oh yea, it's very close to the 55, super accurate and a bit harder shooting.

 I ended up buying a refurbished .22 caliber Diana 36 and am happy with it too.

 It's sometimes funny how things work out huh?

 ZVP

My R7 has still bagged more small game and pests; squirrels, cottontails, doves, pigeons, starlings and sparrows than any other rifle in my collection. Many of these shots where taken out to 40 yrds with a couple of starlings being dropped at 60 yrds with it, simply by carefully learning the trajectory plots.

Yesterday, I mounted a new Leupold 3-9x33 EFR on my R7, then took it out for a hunt. I dropped a pigeon from 42 yrds, laser-verified. The bugger just dropped straight down and dead on the impact. Upon inspection, the shot was a complete passthrough as I usually find, meaning that there was obviously energy to spare. This is from a rifle shooting 'only' 625 fps.

So much for the "higher ft. lbs. of energy required" theory as it pertains to hunting small game.











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the R-series and HW air rifles, the barrel and trigger are a superior shooting machine @ 600ish fps with .20 cal pellets than other brands shooting 800 fps in .22 cal

real quality is still the right quality

the margin of error is diminished by 50% with those air rifles

warren

I love both my HW rifles and my Diana 54. They both just make it so incredibly easy to make accurate shots. Just outstanding German pieces, both brands.

Nice gun, nice scope, nice place to shoot!
Gotta love those R7's

Dave@vabch

Thanks Dave! The guns and the farm are my little piece o' paradise i've been working toward for a long time and is all starting to come together. Now, if I could just take some more time off to shoot more!

Para, how do you like that new scope? I hear they are really clear and precise. Having a farm is any shooters dream come true. Just curious what state do you live in? Must be plenty of pest that are done in by that accurate R7 especially with that new scope!

Regards
Dave@vabch

Thanks Model 48, I felt exactly the same, then begin saving up and patiently scouring the classifieds for a vintage Santa Rosa R7 and luckily I found one! It's my pride and joy.

Dave the Leupold is simply fantastic. It is expensive, but like most things, you get what you pay for and this is no exception. The quality level of the glass will truly spoil you once you use it. I had a hard time going back to my Hawke Airmax, which I felt was of high quality. It's not that the Hawke isn't, it's just that the Leupold is just in another league. When you look at the materials and workmanship of both scopes in front of you, you quickly see why the Leupold cost more, before you even look through the glass, but then that's where it really shines! My motto has always been take your time, save longer, delay a little instant gratification and go for the best! What i've also discovered about waiting, saving up and getting better quality stuff is that it not only tends to retain it's value, but usually goes up! The Leupolds are steadily going up in value, older vintage Beeman's and other rifles are going up, etc...I could now sell all my gear for more than what I paid for it, which I couldn't do with Chinese made stuff.

I live in Kentucky, outside of Louisville and love it hear. It's very peaceful, low cost of living, land is less expensive and the local economy isn't too bad, which is the perfect combo for an airgunner to come carve out his dream farm and why I came here!


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 Nice guns,spread, and livestock!

 Yea the hobbies of "airgun families and airgunners seem to repeatedlly run alike! Horses for the wives, fishing and boating for the guys seen it many times! We also have an Arabian and a Saddlebread  Paint stallion.We have a tract home and live in town so we board the horses. Naw, I don't ride, I fall off a lot!

 Nice HW's! Good quality German guns sure make the Asian stuff look bad however the Chinese are getting better. I have an old Chinese sidelever that actually IS pretty decent (save the lightweight wood) but usually an Asian gun shouldn't even be in a picture with a European rifle (LOL).

 Open Sights ARE very much fun and with the advent of the "Magnum" and all the brands of airgun friendly scopes these days, we often forget the joys of the iron Sight. It5's really not that hard to gauge elevation with a bit of pratice.

 Open sights really do take one of my pet peeves away, that being the damanable "Wobble" you see and try to defeat through glass! I love the relaxing (steady?) picture of open sights! I dunno if the rifle actually settles down or if just your mind does but plinking and hunting with open sights is often quite rewarding. I keep several of my rifles open sighted just for this reason.

 ZVP

who doesnt think that R7 in the pictures is a sweet looking rig is out of their mind!!!! Its making me drool on the keyboard...got to get me one of those.....

Look at those horses behind the R7

I could buy a slew of pellets for a year for what he maintains and feeds those horses for a month

that is a hard FARM to maintain, lot's of work and the rosters wake you up not that alarm clock

4:00 am sharp. everyday since the animals don't have HOLIDAY's or Sundays' and out you are out to take care of that spread

cows' are easiers than horses, I would like to have 100 cows VS. 10 horses

warren


PS: I would like a R7 instead a M34 but the .20 cal. does not do it for ME

and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

hehe, Warren, you figured out my alarm clock man! Actually I only have one rooster, but 6 hens so that's how we get our eggs, but they do wake you up early. We garden for a little extra food and I also do a lot of hunting with my airguns for some extra 'organic' meats, lol. The funny thing about the horses is, we have 3 of them(my wife is a big time horse enthusiast and the reason why we moved to Kentucky) they were all three rescues and only cost us a dollar each. But my wife is into natural horsmanship, so really, they just go out to pasture and don't require a lot of upkeep. We don't buy a lot of sweet feed, just some beet pulp(15 bucks worth per month) to mix in some basic vitamin/mineral supplements, etc..We have a friend who is a farrier, so that doesn't cost us much every 2 months for farrier work on their hooves. We feed them hay of course in the winter, but they only eat about 100 bales of hay, through the winter months and we usually just barter some work and stuff in exchange for some neighbor's hay to get a reduction in cost.

To be honest, because the climate, vegetation and blue grass and everything is so terrific for horses here, I think we spend more money on our dogs than we do the horses, lol. Some of the local vets will even give you a break on routine vet checks many times, since you did a service and rescued abandoned or mistreated horses.

All in all, it's not a bad racket, I would like to get some cows though

I live in the city, the peace and quiet alone is worth all the pellet tins for a year or a decade. To just be able to go outside your back yard and relax is worth a million. Your lifestyle is great for a family. I really envy you. Have fun shooting those nice guns.

Regards
Dave@vabch I can ride my bike about 2 miles to the beach for fishing or swimming (when the f'ing tourist leave)

Jack Burns: It's true though. Have you ever noticed how many fences there're getting to be? And the signs they got on them: no hunting, no hiking, no admission, no trespassing, private property, closed area, start moving, go away, get lost, drop dead! Do you know what I mean?

From my favorite movie- Lonely are the Brave starring Kirk Douglas as Jack Burns

You know, it's funny, my wife and I love the city and beaches and everything, we do travel quite a bit, but since we've moved out of it all, we just go and visit those areas, vacation there etc... we have been so much happier. Now that i've moved out of the city I feel like i'm right at home where I was suppose to be. Everyday when I drive home from the office in the city, I feel like i'm heading out to a bed and breakfast, lol.

My entire place out here cost about the same as our first home that we bought in the city 6 years ago, only now, I have 8 acres with barn, storage buildings wooden fencing 400 more sq. foot and everything, vs. the home in town with 1/4 acre, where I couldn't even walk out onto my porch(actually I didn't even have a freakin porch!) and 16 people were right there, staring at me from every angle. Now I can walk outside, pee off the front porch and the only one looking at me is a horse, a squirrel and a crow, lol.