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Stutzen stock in progress for RWS 48 " how to do it " PART3

November 6 2009 at 9:21 AM
  (Login howie1a)
from IP address 97.96.3.44

 
Here are in part 3 this is about drawing the shape of the outside of the stock finish look , and a last check such as putting the action in the stock completa with the trigger guard all screws and make sure everything works . then to carve the stock with a 4 inch side wheel sander and drill with drum sanding tools. as well as a final shape sanding and them to colplete all the sanding down to at least 220 grit , depending how you finish oil - varnish ( 12 coats sanded with 400 grit between coats ) ect. [linked image] this is all the pictures photo buck will allow me to put in since I have used all the space till they go away by themselves. I'll post more pics as soon as photo bucket lets me you can see the pictures at GTA under the shop gate howie

 
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(Login Parallax7)
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Re: Stutzen stock in progress for RWS 48 " how to do it " PART3

November 6 2009, 9:29 AM 

Man, that's gorgeous!

 
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(Login johannis)
82.176.27.55

The finest mountain hunting rifle !

November 6 2009, 10:19 AM 

Howie, you make the impossible thought design come true for an air rifle and that is the most compact and powerfull "mountain hunting rifle" there is available: a Diana 48 action in a brilliant Stuzten style stock ! I am sure we can hand over the "Diana Works Collective Award 2009 / 2010" to you for your masterpiece in stock making art ! Best regards from Johannis.

 
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(Login LARRYPIRRONE)
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the 48/52 is perfect for a stutzen because

November 6 2009, 1:54 PM 

it is a sidelever and you don't have to split the forestock to accomodate an underlever. i think this makes a more stable stock and you don't have to screw the front of the stock to the barrel like on a 46 stutzen. with a split forend you can get some warpage. i do think you will want to float the barrel for best accuracy.

its looking awsome. i think i would chop the barrel if i were going to scope it.

 
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(Login howie1a)
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Re: the 48/52 is perfect for a stutzen because

November 6 2009, 2:29 PM 

On this type of rifle the barrel has only about 2 inches of support in the factory stock so it's not a problem to float the balance of the barrel when you make a Stutzen or Mannlicher stock for it you just don't let the stock touch the barrel beyond where the stock factory would support the barrel and the point of impact doesn't change.

 
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warren
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YES

November 8 2009, 5:25 AM 

Para, Jan and Larry:

this wood stock was designed for the M48 because I found out is was the BEST platform for this air rifle, think about the possibilities in different types?? and the M48 fit's the bill perfectly IMHO

1 thing we (Howie and myself) did not realize what the lenght of the wood stock should of originally be but this will be resolved eventually, the barrel extends 4 1/2" outside the wood stock but Howie will cut it to be 14 1/2" instead of 16 1/2", meaning a PERFECT fit for the Stutzen stock without a loss of FPS and a perfect fit for the front sight or muzzle brake

the weight of the m48 will raise from 8.5 lbs to 9.5 with this wood stock and with attachements (mount, scope, muzzel barke) it will jump to 10 lbs., HEAVY??? not for me

this extra 1.5 lbs. should SETTLE down the M48, resulting in a bening firing behaviour, next is to built that Stutzen wood stock with a Tyrolean cheeck and an adjustable butt pad, John in PA came with this one

it should work perfectly since your LOS will be adjusted to the specific shooter and your X & Y axis can be perfectly allinged

any other Ideas from the forum members are encouraged to perfect the next BATCH of wood stocks on the Stutzen wood stock in the M48

Warren

and remember "it's 30% the gun and 70% the shooter"

 
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(Login johannis)
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Stutzen length !

November 8 2009, 8:57 AM 

Warren, in co-operation ( via e-mail ) with Howie we decided to shorten "my stock" with another 1" so the distance between trigger and butt-plate is 13.5 ". The same distance as the Air Arms S400 which is perfect in handling and grip. Cheeck rest is made a little smaller and we think now this is perfect. Together with a tuned T01 action ( thanks for info !! ) and a shortened barrel to 35 cm. ( BSA Lightning XL has also a very short barrel but very nice groups on 45 yards ! ) the weight is also superb.

Weight can never be an issue on a Stutzen because the balance must be good with a shortened barrel, centre of gravity is more to the back and this will give a very comfortable shooting character. I am curious how it will behave itself, don't forget that the "mountain hunting rifle's" of a big calibre a rather heavy so 10 pnds. is very, very good !

best regards from Johannis.

 
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71.180.233.249

we think alike

November 8 2009, 3:12 PM 

Jan:

everything you are doing is what I planned to do, but I did not know it at that time

1. barrel lenght, cut it down to 14"

2. weight issue, add some more and make it heavier

3. wood stock lenght, make it a "REAL" Stutzen and with authority (power), design a Stutzen for a .22 cal

but I have to give credit to Larry; WHY?? because he sold me his Stutzen M46 and I loved the wood idea but not the power of (.177 cal. and 650 fps) and I thought about the wood stock in a 800 fps air rifle in .22 cal, and with a RWS action

I was thinking!!!! and thinking!!!!

M350??, M48/52??, MM460?? they are all MAGNUM air rifles but not the same and "VIOLA" the light came on and with the help of Howie, we have a Stutzen in .22 cal capable of 800 fps, that is what the M48 is capable of doing

ONE OF A KIND and you cannot buy this one at any store, unless you sweet talk Howie into making one for you

warren

PS: show me a Stutzen in .22 cal. regardless of brand capable of 800+ fps








 
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I see that warren has his computer working again

November 8 2009, 3:23 PM 

I will put more pictures on this site as soon as the pictures in the photo bucket are gone tomorrow I will have more room I'll start a new post with a the balance of the pictures of the 48 stock in progress and the finished pictures of the stock too. It will be later in the day most likely after supper. It's got to do with when I put the pictures on the site. Some day I'll get better at typing I hope keep hitting the wrong kets. LOL Howie

 
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71.180.233.249

forget about using your fingers for typing

November 8 2009, 3:28 PM 

Howie:

and use them with the wood stocks, ALL 12 of them

I only have 5 fingers in each hands LOL

warren

 
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Philip
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Mannlicher perhaps

November 8 2009, 5:01 PM 

I am not going to cut my barrel yet, so it will not be a stutzen but a
full length mannlicher. Based on a .22 Diana 52.

I read in a much earlier post that cutting a barrel with a pipe cutter
will also compress the barrel enough to rechoke it?


My choice for a good looking stutzen is the Spartan Stutzen by ISP airrifles.

 
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WOWIE HOWIE

November 8 2009, 5:24 PM 

That is awesome! Now I'm thinking I need to get a .22 B21 (I understand you can't get B30s in .22, all sold out) and sweet talk you into a custom stock!

Nice work!

Andy

 
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(Login howie1a)
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Hay Andy

November 8 2009, 7:46 PM 

If you want a B21 in 22 cal take a look in the GTA classified I just put my B21 in 22 cal their it's already set up with a tryolean cheek plate and stutzen stock pictures too. It's a lot less than a custom stock for a B22 or RWS 48 and you get the rifle too. howie

 
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Topi
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Revival of tradition

November 8 2009, 11:21 PM 

That stock looks great!

Rather than a Stutzen per se, it reminds me of the old Diana Model 50 underlever. An old one with the simpler stock, not the late T01 models or the fancy target(ish) models.

I must say that that kind of rifle would look really good beside my 46 Stutzen and my early Model 50.

Cheers,

-Topi

 
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