Iīve already done arround 150 shots with the new kit,and Iīve noticed that the gun is shooting VERY accurate. I doubt that I was able to obtain this accuracy with the old factory spring and guide.
I said in a previous letter that I expected less recoil with the Vortek kit, but now I realize that something good have occured !.
Iīve enclose pictures of the Vortek kit with the factory spring, to see how shorter is the Vortek spring, my 350, and an agrupation of 5 shots done from 38 yards, with JSB Exact 18 gr pellets.
Yesterday Iīve compared, side by side, another 350 with the original spring, with my 350 with the Vortek kit, and the recoil was slight weaker in my 350, but it also seems to have less jump and lateral movements. It is not easy to describe.
put the Vortek kit, but I understand that it is easy to install. I donīt have the special tools to avoid the danger of the preload spring. I plan to get them, and watch an airgun mechanic opening a springer to learn how to do it.
Did you put the kit in your self,and if so how easy was it and how long did it take?
Thanks for your welcome Appel.
I do have a 350 Feuerkraft I got from AOA that I purchased for someone to do some pest elimination around there house,but it looks like they might not want or can't afford it now so I was thinking of keeping it now and put in a Vortek kit in it. It shoots pretty good out of the box but there's room for improvement.
I also have a 34 in 22. with a Vortek kit in it, and a 460 tuned by John in PA for springers, and an AA S410 for surgical target shooting. The AAS410 could shoot lead fishing weights accurately.
yes, the 350 is always a magnum. Before I installed the Vortek kit, the 350 was shooting little bit lower velocity, 830 fps, because the spring had 2 years of thousands of shots. Then, with the Vortek kit, the velocity went to the usual factory velocities, 880 fps.
That is one impressive gun you have there. It's really nice to see a Magnum springer shoot such nice groups at true "Magnum" power levels. I seems a lot of people feel you must detune these guns to make the shoot well especially the 350 and that is just not true. I've always felt if your detuning these magnums you bought the wrong gun. There are so many great medium powered guns out there 34,r7,tx200's ect... Let the Magnums be Magnums.
What pellet were you getting 880 fps with? Surely not 18 gr JSB's or were talking about a 30+ ft/lb gun.
Hopefully I'll get my 56 sent out to John in PA the winter for a tune and Vortek kit.
Yes, as you well know, the 350 is not certainly an easy gun for everybody, to get accuracy. You have to learn how to shoot it.
How nice and easy is to hit the target with my small and light Diana 28 !!.
I particularly donīt want to loose power in my magnums, because I often hunt, specially big wild pigeons, which have become a plague here in Argentina, since big country areas move from cattle production to soybeam culture.
Yes, you are right, I always check all airguns in the Chrony with 14 gr pellets ( Gamo Match or RWS Meisterkulgen).
Congratulations for the 56; it is a beautiful rifle,but I wonder if it is too heavy.
I think calling the 56TH too heavy my be an understatement. Lets face it it's a pig. For many this is a bench rest gun only. I shoot it at the bench just long enough to site it in and then it's off to the woods. This gun is no safe queen, it gets dragged through the brush.
I got this gun just for small game hunting and I don't mind walking with it all day. I don't even bother with a sling. I've hunted for years with a 48 (no light weight either) I sold that gun and I've been out of airguns for a few years. I always wanted a 54 and when the 56 came out for just a few more dollars and had the new trigger, thumbhole stock, adjustable butt plate and muzzle break it was a easy choice. Not a gun for everyone that's for sure.
Yes, I would say that the 56 is mostly a bench rest gun, but if you like it for hunt, and can handle its weight, wonderful. The 56 weights 11,1 pounds,and the 54 10,1 pounds. My heavier gun for hunting is a HW 90 .22, and it weights 9,8 pounds. With the scope, itīs a really heavy gun to walk with in the woods. Anyway, I use to hunt with it for hours.
The 56 is even more heavy than the HW 90, so you should be a strong guy !.
Every year many hunters come from Europe and USA to hunt pigeons. But almost all of them come to hunt small pigeons with shotgun, which are also a plague. I guess that none of them are airgun hunters.
Iīve enclose 2 pictures with the big pigeons. The shots are mostly from 30 to 55 yards, and you have to impact them in the kill zone, because they are very strong. In a good day you can take 25 to 30 pigeons.
Teo Looks like your quite the hunter with your 350.Glad to see the Vortek kit seems like it's doing it's job too.
I have a 350 F-kraft I'm thinking putting that kit in and see how much improvement there will be. It's actually shoots pretty good out of the box, not to hold sensitive, barrel lock up nice, and power with good accuracy but it dose have a good buzz to it and a little louder than I would like for the yard so I'll see what the kit will do in this gun(nice in my 34).
That 5 shot group you show @ 38 yards is very tight.Are you able to get some consistency with groups like that?
I don't do much for hunting but there are some very bad tin cans that I must eliminate at home and some paper with circles that I need to kill!
if you don`t mind me asking,what elevation do you shoot chrony#`s ?I have a new F-kraft,and I also installed a Vortek,and trigger tune,and at 2500' my velocity is somewhat below yours,but I shoot 14.3g Crosman Primers.My Vortek kit looked different than yours,with milky plastic covered spring,not black as yours.This gun is also very accurate,a little tougher to shoot groups with than my Diana 34`s.
regards,Dizz
Dizz,
At arround 150 feet. Your velocity is below because you are in a higher place, and besides Iīve use 14 gr pellets.
Regards,
Teo
if you don`t mind me asking,what elevation do you shoot chrony#`s ?I have a new F-kraft,and I also installed a Vortek,and trigger tune,and at 2500' my velocity is somewhat below yours,but I shoot 14.3g Crosman Primers.My Vortek kit looked different than yours,with milky plastic covered spring,not black as yours.This gun is also very accurate,a little tougher to shoot groups with than my Diana 34`s.
regards,Dizz
you must be really close to an ocean?You been wearing out those Piegons,haven`t you!I don`t know where you live,but those look just like the ones around here.I got after a bunch a couple years ago,some were in a old schoolhouse,others a grain silo(both not used),and after a took a few,they never showed up again,even a couple years later,smart birds when they know your on their trail,aren`t they?
Good Shooting,Dizz
Hi Diz,
At 2,500 FASL puts your RWS350 ProCompact velocity at approx. 825fps using the Crosman Premiers box. Is this close to your crony reading?
Vortek
Pro Compact,I have the full lenght Feuercraft,it`s was doing CP`s @ 835 stock with a new piston seal,and started @ 800 with the Vortek,after 300 or so shots is now doing 785fps,765 FTT,and 755 with FTS(much tighter fit),and 855 with Hobbies,I just now checked it.Maybe my piston seal is burning?It is new Diana seal.Not sure what`s going on.
Regards,Dizz
is I have a Diana 48 in 22cal,that makes same power as the 350,and on paper the 350 has considerable more swept volume&more possible power all other things being same.Guess I have a better than average 48,and maye not so much so on the M-350.That 835 CP`s was with stock spring,liner,weight in the 350.The Vortek kit does not use the piston liner,or weight in piston,hence,less recoil.
A couple days ago I took the M-350 back down again,and found the seal was fine.I did hone the air chamber with 220,330&400 grit to finish.I`ve heard that a synthedic seal needed a honed,cross hatch finish to do it`s best,HW`s used to be honed,and looks to me like new Diana guns are blued inside smooth.My power picked up 30-40 fps on all pellets,you can feel it making more power now,seems to seal better,and is still very smooth&vibration free.Their is so many factors to consider on these things,lenght&size of air vent,straight¶llel air tube,breech seal,piston seal fit, pellet fit,how loose the piston fits air tube,breech taper,choke,tight spot in barrel where breechblock is pressed on,spring&guide fit,top hat,problems with cocking lever,and the list goes on&on.So many things that a good tuner(not me by any means) must consider.
Regards,Dizz
