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Sharon finished Tres' Beau in the Buff, aka Nudie, today in Missoula, MT. Nudie is 6 months and 15 days old today. He finished with 17 points, 3 majors. He is our second bred by champion to finish this month. He is a Vito son (thanks Nikki) and we are very proud of him.

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Way to go!!

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That has got to be close to a record!! Huge congratulations to you and Sharon!!!

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Wow! That's unbelievable!!!!

by Sue Beaupre

Good for you. Big Congrats!.

How about a picture...

Sue

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Wow!

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What a way to finish! Huge congratulations!

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Good job!

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Now can we see pix of this wonderbull gal?




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CA SB 250 to be Heard in Assembly Bus.and Professions Committee June 30th

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A new Legislative Alert has been posted on the AKC's Web site. To view this
alert, please click on the following link, or cut and paste it into your web
browserhttp://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=3883.


CA SB 250 to be Heard in Assembly Business and Professions Committee

Senate Bill 250 has been referred to the Assembly Business and Professions
Committee and will be heard next Tuesday, June 30th. It is vital that concerned
fanciers, dog owners, breeders, and clubs immediately notify the committee
members of their ongoing opposition to the measure.

We are still awaiting the amendments that Senator Florez promised as the bill
left the Senate. The amendments are expected to address exemptions for working
dogs or those involved in hunting activities. A second amendment will require
sterilization the 2nd time a dog is at-large, rather than the first. Until we
see the text of these amendments, we cannot know their impact.

The American Kennel Club opposes Senate Bill 250 as it continues to use
sterilization as a punishment for any violation of the animal control ordinance
and for failure to license. Strict limit laws and unreasonably high license fees
contribute significantly to people's failure to license their animals and these
issues should be examined in dealing with the over animal control issues in the
state.

Finally, existing state law already requires that owners of intact animals pay a
license fee that is at least double that to license a sterilized animal (Food
and Agriculture Code Section 30804.5); and provides for enhanced and graduated
fines for owners whose intact dogs are impounded (Food and Agriculture Code
Section 30804.7). These statutes are sufficient to incentivize owners to
sterilize their animals and to address animal control concerns with specific
intact animals who are impounded repeatedly.

This legislation will not improve the lives of cats and dogs, will negatively
impact responsible owners and breeders. Additionally, by placing additional
burdens on owners of intact animals, this measure may lead to an increase of
animals in shelters. Concentrating animal control efforts on dogs whose behavior
demonstrates that they are a problem for the community, regardless of their
reproductive status, would be a much better use of taxpayer funds.

What You Can Do:
* Attend the Business and Professions Committee hearing to oppose SB 250.
June 30th at 10am
State Capitol, Room 447
Sacramento, CA 95814

* Contact the members of the Assembly Business and Professions Committee and ask
them to oppose Senate Bill 250. For a sample letter visit this link:
http://www.akc.org/canine_legislation/CA_Resident_Sample_SB_250_ASM_B_P.doc

* Ask your club to write a letter opposing SB 250. For a sample letter for your
club, please visit this link:
http://www.akc.org/canine_legislation/Club_Sample_Letter_SB_250_ASM_B_P.doc.

Business and Professions Committee Members

Assemblymember Mary Hayashi (Chair)
Assemblymember.Hayashi@assembly.ca.gov
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone (916) 319-2018
Fax: (916) 319-2118

Assemblymember Bill Emmerson (Vice-Chair)
Assemblymember.emmerson@assembly.ca.gov
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2063
Fax: ((16) 319-2163

Assemblymember Connie Conway
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P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2034
Fax: (916) 319-2134

Assemblymember Mike Eng
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Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2049
Fax: (916) 319-2149

Assemblymember Edward P. Hernandez
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Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2057
Fax: (916) 319-2157

Assemblymember Pedro Nava (Author)
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Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2035
Fax: (916) 319-2135

Assemblymember Roger Niello
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P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2005
Fax: (916) 319-2105

Assemblymember John A. Pérez
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P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2046
Fax: (916) 319-2146

Assemblymember Curren D. Price Jr.
Assemblymember.Price@assembly.ca.gov
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Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2051
Fax: (916) 319-2151

Assemblymember Ira Ruskin
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Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2021
Fax: (916) 319-2121

Assemblymember Cameron Smyth
Assemblymember.Smyth@assembly.ca.gov
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0000
Phone: (916) 319-2038
Fax: (916) 319-2138

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Mandatory spay neuter poll, please help

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we need to blow this outta the water

http://www.petplace.com/polls.aspx?pi=102&utm_source=dogcrazynews001et&utm_medium=email&utm_content=petplace_article&utm_campaign=dailynewsletter

Please pass it alond and cross post!



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Done and ....

by Jaime Gerdes

The difference between the yes and no votes is not that big. I think that most people agree that animals should be spayed and neutered, but they don't realize if it becomes mandatory, they likely wouldn't have their dogs in the first place. Who's going to breed them? Tricky language!

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Done

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Done

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Quick and easy

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Done

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Re: Quick and easy

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DONE

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Completed

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Linked from Facebook

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done

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done

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Done, by

Quick, easy and painless.

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Did it, voted no....

by Marcel

N/M

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I also linked to to my FaceBook.....

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Done

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n/m

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Done..and while I was there I took the poll about

by Jennifer M.

"Do you like Men more than dogs" LMAO Suprisingly 88% prefer dogs over 3% that prefer men. Too funny!!



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HAPPY FATHER'S DAY To All The Daddy Bulldoggers!

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N/M

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Same goes to you Daryn.....

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N/M

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Yes, Happy Father's Day !!

by Shalisa

Hope you all are having a great one with friends, family and bulldogs!

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Puppy evaulation

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What is your most important factor in deciding which puppy to keep in a litter? How do you go about making your choices?? In the past, have you been satisfied with your choices when they mature. For me, I LOVE balance and temperament and that's where I like to start.

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It is hard for me still

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I guess my inexperince does not help... but I try to look for Balance, Length of Scull, Length of Back first.. then as time goes on.. movement, and temperment.. but there is so much to consider when picking your keepers.. I had a breeder tell me that if a male pup isn't as good as his dad or better then don't keep him... I try to remember that when evaluating pups.. I will be curious to see what more experienced breeders than myself answer .. thanks for the post

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I think you've been doing a great job

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Look at how many straight wins you have in a row with your bred-by bitch. Looks to me you're doing all the right things! I forgot to mention that another thing I like to do with the pups is to watch them daily at play. I like to see how they move naturally and how they set themselves up on their own. Every once in a while, you can see a real stand-out that way.

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Thanks Shalisa..

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Saying a prayer must of helped...LOL!

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we take 2 puppies and go over them like you do at a dog show

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keep the best and bring up another pup and do it all over again.

This is how Donna does it, and she has been good!

Of course its very nice to have another eye vs your own.



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This is a great idea!

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And totally makes sence. Thanks Vicky!

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Crossing your fingers and saying a prayer????

Sometimes that seems to be the most important part.

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I'm there!

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Everyday!

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Agree Patti!..

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Balance

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I look for balance...a decent head piece as mine don't come together as quickly as some, then a strong front. A narrow front or improper shoulder assembly is a true deal beaker for me. An incorrect front leads to improper soundness and movement overall. A tad of length doesn't bother me...and LOVE to see a tail. Temperament really hasn't been much of an issue...except in my bitches. My bitches are "bitches" after all...lol

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My input...

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Definitely Balance, if a puppy isnt balanced the odds are greater that he wont be balanced as an adult.
Keep the puppies as long as you can, they can change so much from 8 weeks to 6 mths. I've had beautiful babies turn into definite pets in those short 4 mths. Holding onto them is very tough when you have a large litter...
Also, take lots of pictures, it is amazing what you see in pictures that you dont see when they are running around. You cant lie to yourself, you have got to be your dogs and PUPPIES worst critic.
Ward

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I agree with Ward

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Sharon has me stack all the puppies at a young age while she takes pictures. We take pictures 4 week later and compare, and 4 weeks after that if needed. You will see alot in pictures that you will miss when just stacking them on a table. You can also take measurements on your pictures which are almost impossible with a wiggle puppy.

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Thank you all for your input!

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This has been interesting and helpful.

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Time to move on

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I think everyone had their chance to say what they felt. Time to move on...
Thanks!

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Must read........."a message from the heart.."

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Seem my post about poor sportsmanship created a stir. Many are defending the behavior, others trying to explain it, a few hurt by what they see. I've also received quite a few e-mails, some from peopl who were there, a few from people who wish they had the gump to stand up like I did and then there's this one from a family member of the person who was wronged.. Here it is:

"Hi Marcel,

I just want to thank you for speaking up for the BIS win on the boards. I went there to see if anyone had congratulated them since I have a biased view of my mother. I've seen her give so much to the breed and anyone who comes into it. I've watched her give freely of her knowledge to any and all. She loves this breed and has such a love of people. To be willing to call poor sportsmanship into public view can be a hard thing to do so I commend you. This is a special moment in all the years she has shown and I am glad she has some Bulldoggers willing to share it with her.

Kind regards,
Micky Adams "


My agenda?? To promote good sportsmanship....period. Beware what you do and say when competing. The public should never see a group or even one exhibitor cast the fancy into a negative light. Marcel




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one more response mailed to me.....

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Seems we've hit a nerve and rightfully so..... If this were my daighter, I'd be standing tall
Some of you may have met Micky, I don't know but if she were my daughter, I'd be standing proud.
No more after this. Read on:

Marcel...those who are small-minded know who they are and they can try to make excuses for the behaviour, they still have to face the truth every time they look in the mirror. Those who claim to be friends but don't have the courage to stand up to a couple of small-minded users & takers in the breed then that is their loss.

The angry daughter in me would say "I hope their own mother never experiences the treatment I know my mother has experienced" but the daughter that learned from her mother will say "you are the reason my mother loves to show". I've read these boards for years now and it makes me laugh and shake my head when someone tries to say something that walks like a duck & quacks like a duck is really a Canada goose, as if repeating it enough times makes it so.

I dare say her legacy in the breed will stand much taller and longer than their small little minds.

Kind regards,
Micky Adams


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The great song and its lyrics.... so timely....

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Positively Fourth Street. by Bob Dylan.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54qhjlTNVn0


You got a lotta nerve
To say you are my friend
When I was down
You just stood there grinning

You got a lotta nerve
To say you got a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on
The side that's winning

You say I let you down
You know it's not like that
If you're so hurt
Why then don't you show it

You say you lost your faith
But that's not where it's at
You had no faith to lose
And you know it

I know the reason
That you talk behind my back
I used to be among the crowd
You're in with

Do you take me for such a fool
To think I'd make contact
With the one who tries to hide
What he don't know to begin with

You see me on the street
You always act surprised
You say, "How are you?" "Good luck"
But you don't mean it

When you know as well as me
You'd rather see me paralyzed
Why don't you just come out once
And scream it

No, I do not feel that good
When I see the heartbreaks you embrace
If I was a master thief
Perhaps I'd rob them

And now I know you're dissatisfied
With your position and your place
Don't you understand
It's not my problem

I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment
I could be you

Yes, I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is
To see you


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Re: Must read........."a message from the heart.."

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You know, lately, I feel like that movie, "Best In Show" is a little too accurate. Seriously.... I have recently experienced something that was, frankly, laughable to myself when I was sharing it with those involved. I couldn't believe my own story as it was coming out of my mouth. There's something to be said for sportsmanship, honesty and...INTEGRITY! We need to clean up the Sh!T in our own backyards before we go looking over fences!

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Another perspective on our breed

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I have permission and want to share this email in regards to my post below. What I am looking for here are your thoughts on the Veterinary medicine clinics we have and where we are going to turn to from here...
Hi Jess,
Just wanted to say I agree wholeheartedly with your post. I, for one, have had enough. One of the things that has bothered me (and seriously affected me!) is the attitude "non-bulldog" vets have about bulldogs. We have taken some very young puppies as well as some older adult dogs/puppies to "emergency clinics" in the area because they were the only thing available, due to time of day/night, distance to travel to our regular vet, etc. In EVERY instance but one, we lost the animal!!! And why? Because our beloved pups or dogs were treated like alien beings. We had one vet look at a struggling puppy and say, "You know, these dogs shouldn't be bred!" We have been lectured on how we shouldn't be breeding bulldogs, the dogs have been misdiagnosed, and mis-treated (not treated badly, but treated WRONG!). It sickens me. And I believe that yes, many vet schools are teaching their students the "wrong and the right" of dog breeding, and our breed is definitely the poster child for WRONG! I am thankful to have a vet clinic that understands, welcomes and competently treats bulldogs. They don't make snap judgments and they seldom miss a correct diagnosis.


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We ALL need

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to start being open and honest about health. It is such a hush hush subject. There in lies the problem.

I hate the term it is common for Bulldogs. Go to the General Form on BDW. All the pet people assume these health problems are expected. Why? Why are palette surgeries common and routine (ie Cherry Eye)? Why is Entropian common? Why is Hip Dysplaysia common? Why are allergy issues common? Why are CCL surgeries common? Why are they not UN-COMMON?

When we settle to breed common health problems aren't we expecting such.

Of the 4 bulldogs I've owned I have yet to have a cherry eye surgery. I've had 2 palette surgeries, 2 CCL surgeries and 1 Entropian surgery on 1 eye. Not really so bad most would say...but I wonder why?

I am thankful I have a vet who is great with Bulldogs and truly appreciates them. Maybe he just appreciates all those dollars I have put into his pocket.

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Hi Deb

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I don't think the point of the thread is to admit these problems are "normal" but rather to address the fact that that the veterinary community is "not with us"and have a particular disdain for our breed...or lack of knowledge as to what are common defects. I agree that "common defects" need to be bred out but that takes time.

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Oh Sorry

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I'll go back to lurking.

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No, don't lurk, you are right

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If vets didn't see so many problems as "common", they probably would not get an attitude that Bulldogs are a PROBLEM. So yes, in my opinion, we need to be concerned about health, and let our vets know that. Then they would appreciate a good, healthy Bulldog.

I do agree with what Sandra said, though. Too many are getting too "high tech" with equipment, and somehow seem to miss the class on basic diagnostics using common sense, experience and skill.

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No way

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I was just trying to get the thread moving in another direction is all...I like your responses and wish you would participate more often!

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Re: Another perspective on our breed

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My take is the veterinary field is getting high tech. Today's vet is taught to use equipment to diagnose a problem they may have diagnosed with experience and common sense years ago. At times the personal touch is missing.

It's great when you find a vet and maybe a back-up vet that has experience in our breed. They are the best to teach the new vets coming out of school about our breed. Experience and hands on in any breed is the only way.

It's always great when you have references to emergency clinics in your area that are familiar with our breed. That is a tremendous help.

Again education is another key. At times an owner can panic over something that as a breeder or mentor you could help with the problem so it doesn't get overwhelming and they don't rush off to an inexperienced vet that can scare them.

One plus of the Internet. At times you can look online for a simple problem so it doesn't get overwhelming.

"All the pet people assume these health problems are expected. Why? Why are palette surgeries common and routine (ie Cherry Eye)? Why is Entropian common? Why is Hip Dysplaysia common? Why are allergy issues common? Why are CCL surgeries common? "

I believe at times an inexperienced vet can rush into surgeries faster on the Bulldog. Some of the problems that are "common" are just as common in any animal. WE are dealing with life and no one can predict it. Again experience in a breeder helps. Before you breed, do your education. AS a breeder you are creating the life..."Be responsible for it". Also as a pet owner, be responsible. Check out your breeder. Ask for references and check them out.

WE can't blame vets if we keep on perpetuating the problem by breeding an unhealthy specimen just because they need to have a litter. The same with a stud dog. All males don't need to be bred.



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On the other end...

by Jaime Gerdes

of this spectrum, I recently had one of my bitches spayed. I brought her to a vet that we have used a lot in year's past, before finding a good one closer to home (which is still a 45 minute drive, but worth it). I was quoted $360 on the spay. $670 later, we left. EVERY single precaution was take because she was a Bulldog. Needless to say, I nearly peed when I saw that bill.

The two vets in my area that we have visited ALWAYS tell me that my dogs are overweight when I do take them in. It was suggested years ago that we remove Lucy's nose wrinkle because she got a cherry eye (that only popped out that one time. It is for reasons such as these that it is so worth it for me to drive the distance, and pay a lot to know that my dogs are getting the best treatment available.

Veterinary medicine is not much different than human medicine in the sense that one diagnosis or list of symptoms does not "fit all" even when the symptoms present in a similar way.

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I have to say i love my vet, when we started using him by

he was very open to learning everything he could about our breed. He is very open to suggestions, we have told him how we want things done during our sections and he does them just perfect. HE trusts us and we trust him. He calls me with questions and is open to suggestions. He asks other breeders what they would do for common bulldog things.

Im not sure where he is with the food stuff, as he has never suggested i change food with my dogs. He does always comment on how great they look, the ears are clean, no wrinkle stains. I always tell him its all in the food and grain free or lesser grains.

He has new vets coming through and trys to get them involved in the care he gives the bulldogs, my last section i had a vet student he called in to watch the section, we had him rubbing and sucking puppies with us. We were educating him about the do's and dont's of bulldogs while bringing them around.

When i was seeing another vet, i would tell them what i thought and if htey didnt like it i would tell them i dont agree with the plan and we need to come together with a plan we can both agree upon.

I look at it from a human size too, we are partners in the health care of my dog. If we can not work together then we will not work with eachother at all and i will find another team.

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He has been the main bulldog vet here in LV for almost 30 years. Yes, his clinic has grown to 12 vets, and there are some that are not as familiar. But I will tell you, if you get a different vet and Dr. Arn is not in that day......they will not make any rash decisions....they always say.... they will call Dr. Arn...

And, I am lucky that I am good friends with him too, and have his home and cell number. Believe me, there has been a few times where I was not satisfied with the answers given, so I will call him direct to get a hold of the other doctor and set them straight.

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Beautiful little snowballs....

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You best micro-chip them so you'll know who's who.....LOL Very beautiful... I seldom get white bullies and I just love'em... Lucky you..and congrat'!

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Well with a white Dad AND Mom it wasn't too much of a surprise!

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They are actually getting easier & easier to tell apart. One female has "eyebrow" marks, another has a dark spot over her tail, and the other is getting a lighter patch by her tail (which looks like she's DiRTY right now! The males are quite different in size & build & have different tails...as the pigment comes in we'll be able to tell even better!




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My last white bully was my girl Angel...

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DK's Geat White, named after a great California brewed beer. She had both dark brindle parents w/ white heads.. Same goes for the one before that, my Ch DK's Ph.D. (Smarty). Her parents also both dark brindle.. I like them all but my occasional white babies are always interesting to us..

Have fun with those pups...

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look at them... they look like little sugary pastries.

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I did some research......it was easy on Infodog...

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Wow, compare the three days below. Lots of sick dogs in the breed class on Saturday... This must be some freak of nature or the flu but if the latter, good thing it was only a 24 hour flu....LOL
I researched this circuit of shows and all the others in the country this past weekend. Kind of goes along with what I posted about boycotting an entry with entered dogs..

Good educational tool for mentors to show their understudies as to what can happen to you in the ring when you're a big winner during any given weekend. Truthfully, I've never seen a display of this behavior by so many in one show. Must be some form of organized effort or pure coincidence. You decide.... Compare Saturday's entry to the other two days.... You can't make this stuff up..

All this is a matter of record:

Gridley CA

Friday 6/12/2009

BULLDOGS. Best of Breed Competition.
7 CH SILVERSPOON'S NOTHING PERSONAL. NP 06210501. 04-13-04
By Ch Adamant Warlock - Silverspoon's Born Into The Lace. Dog.
Owner: Mary Aiken & Rick Sturiza., Woodside, CA 940624543. Breeder: Mary Aiken & Rick Sturiza.
B/G2 9 CH GLOBE AND ANCHOR SGT IRON MIKE. NP 15258707. 11-03-06
By Ch Mytemug's Great Expectations - Leia's Daisy Doodle. Dog.
Owner: Dave & Doris Boyd & Mike & Virginia Hearne., Carmichael, CA 95608. Breeder: Catherine A
Brizzi & Kenneth A Brizzi.
(Mike Stone, Agent).
18 CH RAMBLING FEVER YOUR CHEATING HEART . NP 16142105. 02-22-07
By Ch Benchmark Bulldogs Cowboy Casanova - Beefcakes Bisskit N Gravy. Bitch.
Owner: Kelley Singleton., Santa Rosa, CA 95404. Breeder: Kelley Singleton & Monae Rosgen.
19 CH FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE. NP 05423403. 12-19-03
By Master Sebastion Maximillon - Stewart's Wee Bit O Aberdeen. Dog.
Owner: Doris Boyd & David Boyd & Jessica Conley & V Hearne., Carmichael, CA 95608. Breeder: John Stewart & Lisa Stewart.
23 CH WILD WESTS COWBOY UP . NP 14317902. 09-18-06
By Ch BayView Jolly Roger - Ch Wild Wests Here Comes The Bride. Dog.
Owner: Shelly & David Fernandez., Windsor, CA 95492. Breeder: Shelly & David Fernandez.
25 CH WALKIN' BLUES BABALU. NP 16401001. 03-04-07
By Ch Bayview Jolly Roger - Walkin' Blues Sweet Potato Pie. Dog.
Owner: Suzy & Chris Holleran., Santa Rosa, CA 954037212. Breeder: Suzy & Chris Holleran.
27 CH WILD WEST BOMBER BOYS FLY'N UNDER THE RADAR . NP 17845303. 10-12-07
By Ch Karma's Big Shot - Ch Wild West's Here Comes The Bride. Dog.
Owner: Erica Peters., Sacramento, CA 958351700. Breeder: Shelly & David Fernandez.
OS 36 CH ROYAL LEE'S FLYING EAGLE II. NP 19359801. 01-26-08
By Ch Silver Spoda's Nothing Personal - Tiffanys Rosewood. Bitch.
Owner: Alexander Lee., Penryn, CA 95663. Breeder: Alexande Lee.
(Sandra Martinez, Agent).


Saturday 6/13/2009

BULLDOGS. Best of Breed Competition.

ABSENT--
7 CH SILVERSPOON'S NOTHING PERSONAL. NP 06210501. 04-13-04
By Ch Adamant Warlock - Silverspoon's Born Into The Lace. Dog.
Owner: Mary Aiken & Rick Sturiza., Woodside, CA 940624543. Breeder: Mary Aiken & Rick Sturiza.
B/G1/BIS 9 CH GLOBE AND ANCHOR SGT IRON MIKE. NP 15258707. 11-03-06
By Ch Mytemug's Great Expectations - Leia's Daisy Doodle. Dog.
Owner: Dave & Doris Boyd & Mike & Virginia Hearne., Carmichael, CA 95608. Breeder: Catherine A
Brizzi & Kenneth A Brizzi.
(Mike Stone, Agent).
OS 18 CH RAMBLING FEVER YOUR CHEATING HEART . NP 16142105. 02-22-07
By Ch Benchmark Bulldogs Cowboy Casanova - Beefcakes Bisskit N Gravy. Bitch.
Owner: Kelley Singleton., Santa Rosa, CA 95404. Breeder: Kelley Singleton & Monae Rosgen.
ABSENT--
19 CH FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE. NP 05423403. 12-19-03
By Master Sebastion Maximillon - Stewart's Wee Bit O Aberdeen. Dog.
Owner: Doris Boyd & David Boyd & Jessica Conley & V Hearne., Carmichael, CA 95608. Breeder:
John Stewart & Lisa Stewart.
ABSENT--
23 CH WILD WESTS COWBOY UP . NP 14317902. 09-18-06
By Ch BayView Jolly Roger - Ch Wild Wests Here Comes The Bride. Dog.
Owner: Shelly & David Fernandez., Windsor, CA 95492. Breeder: Shelly & David Fernandez.
ABSENT--
25 CH WALKIN' BLUES BABALU. NP 16401001. 03-04-07
By Ch Bayview Jolly Roger - Walkin' Blues Sweet Potato Pie. Dog.
Owner: Suzy & Chris Holleran., Santa Rosa, CA 954037212. Breeder: Suzy & Chris Holleran.
ABSENT--
27 CH WILD WEST BOMBER BOYS FLY'N UNDER THE RADAR . NP 17845303. 10-12-07
By Ch Karma's Big Shot - Ch Wild West's Here Comes The Bride. Dog.
Owner: Erica Peters., Sacramento, CA 958351700. Breeder: Shelly & David Fernandez.
ABSENT--
36 CH ROYAL LEE'S FLYING EAGLE II. NP 19359801. 01-26-08
By Ch Silver Spoda's Nothing Personal - Tiffanys Rosewood. Bitch.
Owner: Alexander Lee., Penryn, CA 95663. Breeder: Alexande Lee.
(Sandra Martinez, Agent).

Sunday 6/14

BULLDOGS. Best of Breed Competition.
B/G1 7 CH SILVERSPOON'S NOTHING PERSONAL. NP 06210501. 04-13-04
By Ch Adamant Warlock - Silverspoon's Born Into The Lace. Dog.
Owner: Mary Aiken & Rick Sturiza., Woodside, CA 940624543. Breeder: Mary Aiken & Rick Sturiza.
9 CH GLOBE AND ANCHOR SGT IRON MIKE. NP 15258707. 11-03-06
By Ch Mytemug's Great Expectations - Leia's Daisy Doodle. Dog.
Owner: Dave & Doris Boyd & Mike & Virginia Hearne., Carmichael, CA 95608. Breeder: Catherine A
Brizzi & Kenneth A Brizzi.
(Mike Stone, Agent).
18 CH RAMBLING FEVER YOUR CHEATING HEART . NP 16142105. 02-22-07
By Ch Benchmark Bulldogs Cowboy Casanova - Beefcakes Bisskit N Gravy. Bitch.
Owner: Kelley Singleton., Santa Rosa, CA 95404. Breeder: Kelley Singleton & Monae Rosgen.
19 CH FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE. NP 05423403. 12-19-03
By Master Sebastion Maximillon - Stewart's Wee Bit O Aberdeen. Dog.
Owner: Doris Boyd & David Boyd & Jessica Conley & V Hearne., Carmichael, CA 95608. Breeder:
John Stewart & Lisa Stewart.
25 CH WALKIN' BLUES BABALU. NP 16401001. 03-04-07
By Ch Bayview Jolly Roger - Walkin' Blues Sweet Potato Pie. Dog.
Owner: Suzy & Chris Holleran., Santa Rosa, CA 954037212. Breeder: Suzy & Chris Holleran.
27 CH WILD WEST BOMBER BOYS FLY'N UNDER THE RADAR . NP 17845303. 10-12-07
By Ch Karma's Big Shot - Ch Wild West's Here Comes The Bride. Dog.
Owner: Erica Peters., Sacramento, CA 958351700. Breeder: Shelly & David Fernandez.
OS 36 CH ROYAL LEE'S FLYING EAGLE II. NP 19359801. 01-26-08
By Ch Silver Spoda's Nothing Personal - Tiffanys Rosewood. Bitch.
Owner: Alexander Lee., Penryn, CA 95663. Breeder: Alexande Lee.
(Sandra Martinez, Agent).





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Did you notice that the person who won that day must've had one of those "sick" dogs? There were two specials of theirs enterred that day, and only one was shown. It doesn't seem to bother that person, so why is it bothering you? Also... everyone you are referring to showed their class dogs. If it was to take breed points away or whatever, don't you think all would've been absent? What is the point you are trying to make? I don't know why you keep adding the flames to the fire, but as a judge I would think you would have the smarts to stay out of the crap and not plaster it all over the internet. Next time you are griping about your entries or how you are treated as judge, know that it is just these kinds of posts that leave people with a sour taste in their mouths.....

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Also... incorrect info on your part

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Ch. Royal Lee's Flying Eagle II WAS shown in the Breed Saturday and I have pictures to prove it....

BULLDOGS. Best of Breed Competition.
A 7 CH SILVERSPOON'S NOTHING PERSONAL. NP 06210501. 04-13-04
By Ch Adamant Warlock - Silverspoon's Born Into The Lace. Dog.
Owner: Mary Aiken & Rick Sturiza., Woodside, CA 940624543. Breeder: Mary Aiken & Rick Sturiza.
B/G1/BIS 9 CH GLOBE AND ANCHOR SGT IRON MIKE. NP 15258707. 11-03-06
By Ch Mytemug's Great Expectations - Leia's Daisy Doodle. Dog.
Owner: Dave & Doris Boyd & Mike & Virginia Hearne., Carmichael, CA 95608. Breeder: Catherine A Brizzi & Kenneth A Brizzi.
(Mike Stone, Agent).
OS 18 CH RAMBLING FEVER YOUR CHEATING HEART . NP 16142105. 02-22-07
By Ch Benchmark Bulldogs Cowboy Casanova - Beefcakes Bisskit N Gravy. Bitch.
Owner: Kelley Singleton., Santa Rosa, CA 95404. Breeder: Kelley Singleton & Monae Rosgen.
A 19 CH FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE. NP 05423403. 12-19-03
By Master Sebastion Maximillon - Stewart's Wee Bit O Aberdeen. Dog.
Owner: Doris Boyd & David Boyd & Jessica Conley & V Hearne., Carmichael, CA 95608. Breeder: John Stewart & Lisa Stewart.
A 23 CH WILD WESTS COWBOY UP . NP 14317902. 09-18-06
By Ch BayView Jolly Roger - Ch Wild Wests Here Comes The Bride. Dog.
Owner: Shelly & David Fernandez., Windsor, CA 95492. Breeder: Shelly & David Fernandez.
A 25 CH WALKIN' BLUES BABALU. NP 16401001. 03-04-07
By Ch Bayview Jolly Roger - Walkin' Blues Sweet Potato Pie. Dog.
Owner: Suzy & Chris Holleran., Santa Rosa, CA 954037212. Breeder: Suzy & Chris Holleran.
A 27 CH WILD WEST BOMBER BOYS FLY'N UNDER THE RADAR . NP 17845303. 10-12-07
By Ch Karma's Big Shot - Ch Wild West's Here Comes The Bride. Dog.
Owner: Erica Peters., Sacramento, CA 958351700. Breeder: Shelly & David Fernandez.
36 CH ROYAL LEE'S FLYING EAGLE II. NP 19359801. 01-26-08
By Ch Silver Spoda's Nothing Personal - Tiffanys Rosewood. Bitch.
Owner: Alexander Lee., Penryn, CA 95663. Breeder: Alexande Lee.
(Sandra Martinez, Agent).




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It was information from Infodog....

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Have you ever seen that many specials not show up one day and then re=appear the next?

I haven't in all those years showing. Like I said, maybe it was coincidence... Let the readers decide. I was just backing up what I posted about boycotting. Nothing personal....

As a mentor of other bulldoggers, I'm use to educating my people by helping them observe what goes on out there.

Don't make something of this, it's also posted on Infodog.

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I copied and pasted Infodog...

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and it wasn't on mine. I just want to keep the facts straight, as well. I find it interesting that all the people you accuse of pulling Saturday showed on Sunday. Don't you think it would've made more sense to pull Sunday?

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Pulling day two of three is what adds to suspicion...

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no??

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Actually day 3 of 4.

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There was a show on Thursday as well.

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Why I posted this info....

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First of all, I have no first hand info on any occurences but the term boycotting came up in a conversation recently and I decided to post about this practice.
I'm also been on the east coast at my home there and this info comes to me via the web. This is how others percieve a situation by seeing 6 specials not picking up their armbands on day two of a three day circuit, showing back up on Sunday. What's with that??

Witholding an entry by not entering is common because you may know you never win under a certain judge but enterring and pulling can start to be something, maybe not.

Patti posted that she's never seen this behavior on the west coast but seems to happen on the east coast and down south.( really...) I say,"show me"... I bet our east coast counterparts would like to see proof to such a comment.
So, I did a little research to see if that's true as I've never seen this happen anywhere to this degree. Like I said, you can't make this stuff up..... What I nposted is what went down at one circuit in the whole country.

So please don't take it personally. I'm just sharing info off the web with fellow bulldoggers...

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Contradicting yourself?????

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In this post you say, "First of all, I have no first hand info on any occurences but the term boycotting came up in a conversation recently and I decided to post about this practice", but in a post just a couple days ago you said "any of you have ever called others and asked them to pull your dog from the next day's shows for any reason, just know you are practicing the worse form of poor sportsmanship.
Our club ethic rules mention such behavior as forbidden.

Now I know for a fact some of you who have deone this and shame on you............!!!"

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Looks like...

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those that showed on Saturday were primarily handled by pro-handlers. They get paid for doing what they do... rightfully so......

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Last thing...

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If anybody wants to see what went down and in a better, readable format, they should go to infodog.com and check out the Gridley shows on Fri, Sat & Sun.

If those that didn't show their enterred specials had class dogs, they were there, why didn't they show the specials? There might be a good reason, there might not be....but just saying I have an agenda for bringing to light a weird situation happening in the ring should not be levelled against me...
Don't shoot the messenger...or become bitter......

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I guess the question most would have Marcel is WHY do you feel the need to be "the messenger"? If anyone wants to look up dog show results they are there for viewing. WHY bring this up now? Most would question "What is the agenda"?

If you also check out the class judge on Saturday it was Mrs. Houston (Totie) Clark. She was also the group judge on Thursday awarding the Bulldog a Group One. Maybe this is where clubs/AKC need to schedule group judging assignments a bit more carefully in shows where they will be judging the breed the same weekend. It would be an interesting research of other breeds as well as the Bulldog.

I remember years ago at a show. The judge awarded the Bulldog a group one. This Bulldog came from the classes. The next day quite a few of the male class dogs pulled believing this dog would be awarded Winners Dog and possibly Breed. The judge didn't find this dog again. He didn't even award him with Reserve. BUT no one questioned those that pulled. I believe you were awarded Breed that day with your special. I may be mistaken and if so, please accept my apology.




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Why am I the messenger? Like you, I'm posting interesting info...

I remember when Lillian took breed from the classes and the next day didn't even get RWD. Judge didn't realize he was looking at the same dog he gave Group one to the day prior. I also went BOB that second day and I still showed up for group, even though the judge was the judge from the day before, the one that dumped me for Lillian's class dog. I didn't pull and go home. I did what AKC would expect me to do. I showed up and we didn't even make the cut, but I showed up just in case...and to be a good sport..

From what I see from this past weekend, and based on the facts listed on Infodog's results page, there were some unhappy exhibitors who thought they'd pull their spcials becauise they weren't going to win anyway. How did you know this? The same bunch showed on Sunday. Did they have inside info on that judge??

I see no one explaining why they pulled, only people getting upset with me for posting facts... So sad... but so revealing...

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None were handled by pros in the Breed....

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Everyone showed their own.

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You mean....

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None of the handlers who get paid for what they do pulled on Saturday? You're right. Those that were no-shows were bulldoggers that enterred their own dogs. You may not know this as you've never campaigned a nationally ranked dog, but the number of dogs your dog defeat helps with the grand total used for this ranking. In this case, 6 dogs were pulled...and all from the specials class. Look at the line-up... Say what you want but not cool. Equally bad is someone posting that this behavior happens more down south or back east... If I were from there, I'd be insulted...

All this talk is a smoke screen to distract us all from what really went down..

BTW: I often took BOB with my dog I campaigned back when and I have never been subjected to people pulling based on their pervception they couldn't beat my dog. I clearly remember other great sportsman competing side by side, no matter what.
As a poster said in another thread, it was much friendlier years ago...Amen...

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You're Right...

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I have never campaigned a Nationally ranked dog. This is purely a hobby for me... I work a real job and really don't have the time right now to give 100 percent to dog shows. Also, although I have had some competitive dogs that have done some nice winning, I am honest enough to say I really don't think I have come accross that "one" yet. However, if you look at one of my first posts on this thread, I made mention of the breed points thing. I'm no idiot when it comes to knowing what it takes to rank them.

BTW: Congrats on your dog back when...

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???

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I didn't want to go there but what's your classification of a pro-handler?

I think it's one who shows professionaly and gets paid for it. There were a few in there that do just that... One even said she makes a living raising / showing bulldogs. ( AZ newspaper article) Said this when her dog was stolen... Now this isn't a slam but I can see you wanting to get in and call what you percieve to not be a handler. Mike Stone is another handler...and he gets paid for it...
So, there were pro-handlers in there...and they showed up each day.. Win or lose from the previous days, so I don't know your point by saying there were no pro-handlers...



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just someone who gets paid to show a dog for someone. I have shown dogs for people and been paid for it, and I in no way consider myself a pro handler. I do think there are some great breeder/owner/handlers out there with a great passion and love for the breed and sport that show a dog for someone else and get compensated for it. Does that make them a pro? Not in my book. THIS IS MY OPINION, ONLY. Yes, I consider Mike Stone a pro, but he did not show the dog in the Breed that day... the owner did.

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Pro-handler..

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When someone shows a dog on a continued basis and gets paid for it, they are a paid handler.

When that handler goes to the media and during a newspaper interview states that they "make a living raising and showing bulldogs" and has a van full of dogs owned by others, getting paid for the job, makes them a handler.

The key here is continued handling of a specific dog or dogs for pay, using their expertise and reputation to exhibit a dog.

When you're an AKC judge, you cannot make statements like that as it shows you're involved in the commerce of selling/handling dogs. This would disqualify someone from keeping their judging license.. So AKC would consider this a form of being a handler. It's in the rules and available to read on-line or within a booklet you can order or get free at an AKC show..



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I think I made myself fairly clear.....

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as to what I consider a PRO handler. You yourself in your post don't even call your definition a pro handler. In the first sentence it is a paid handler and in the second it is just handler.

Also... you keep referring to this. "When that handler goes to the media and during a newspaper interview states that they "make a living raising and showing bulldogs" and has a van full of dogs owned by others, getting paid for the job, makes them a handler. "
What is your point? I know there was no one at the Gridley shows that has stated this. Please, if you have the newspaper article, lets see it or again it will just be your way of stirring the pot.





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When I find the article printed in an AZ paper, it will appear on this site as you request

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In the article while begging for the return of the puppy, the owner stated she makes a living raising and exhibiting bulldogs. Pup was valued at $5k. ( Are pups selling for this amount??).

Be back, guaranteed... how many papers are there in AZ? I'll find the article.

But then again, what does this have to do with what went down this past weekend? Also, did you go over the two threads I posted on responses to me?

Maybe all that grouped togethe tis weekend will make a public apology to the exbitor that was wronged on such a glorious day. The celebration by those who showed up and won on Sunday is all over dog show sites, tooting their success/ win. As Patti would say, " they are full of themselves."

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I don't know Marcel...

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What does it have to do with anything. Just curious since you were the one to bring it up. I'll be waiting for the AZ link.

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Getting back to the original thread, what do you think??

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N/M

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Marcel, THIS is what I meant

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Now you can try to stir the pot saying my comment was an insult to others in the south or east, or WHEREVER..... But, this is what I meant when I said I felt I see Absents more often other places than in CA.

I truly think it would be hard to find any shows in CA where 1/3 of the entry is absent.

Hmmmm, should we think this is a conspiracy theory????? Perhaps you need to be the messenger elsewhere!



Below, total 28 dogs entered, 10 absent. Over 1/3 the entry. Why??? I don't know....But that is a big drop in the entries, if you are going, thinking the points are going to be one thing, and they are something else.


Jefferson County KC of Missouri Inc.
5/03/2009

BULLDOGS
JUDGE: Ms JoAnne R Schullier
BULLDOGS, Puppy Dogs 6 Mos & Under 9 Mos .
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15 SCOTTFULTS TWO DAYS ROCCO. NP211372/02. 08/14/2008. BREEDER: Joyce Fults & Karen Scott. By Ch Millcoats Pilgrim's WJ-Ch Fults Scotts Precious Girl. OWNER: Lee & Dianna Day.
A
29 KOSMIC'S THIRD TIME'S A CHARM. NP216093/02. 10/05/2008. BREEDER: Johnny & Bree Babb & Karen Silver & Shane Twamley. By Ch All Star's Silverstreak Catcher-Ch Shadowland's Zelley Bean. OWNER: Jacinda Bryant & Johnny & Bree Babb.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Dogs 9 Mos & Under 12 Mos .
A
7 ARTEMIS ESSEX. NP205024/05. 07/22/2008. BREEDER: Diana Engeszer. By Ch Beulahlands Incred'bl Stormi-Artemis Andromeda of CocknBull. OWNER: Diana Engeszer.
3
17 OSAGE OUR BOY REL-ROY. NP207414/01. 06/17/2008. BREEDER: Shannon & Kim Atkisson. By Ch Twin Lakes My Boy El-Roy-PJ's KC Zoe. OWNER: Kim Atkisson & Shannon Atkisson.
2
19 ARTEMIS FITZGERALD. NP205025/01. 07/30/2008. BREEDER: Diana Engeszer. By Ch Beulahlands Incred'bl Stormi-Brookhollow Something Wicked. OWNER: Diana Engeszer & Dan Caldwell & Kim Caldwell.
1/R
25 GUINNS TWISTED TALE. NP205117/03. 07/01/2008. BREEDER: Jennifer Guinn & Jennifer Smith. By Ch Cherokee Legend Rock-Winsome's Delilah Of LittlePond. OWNER: Jennifer & John Guinn.
A
37 SHOW-ME MONTEZUMA'S TREASURE. NP212015/01. 07/06/2008. BREEDER: Trudy Coleman & Dewayne Coleman. By Ch Gral' Urko Hernandez-Ch Show-Me Turn The Paige. OWNER: Trudy Coleman & Dewayne Coleman.
BULLDOGS, Novice Dogs .
1
41 ARTEMIS ELROD SEMPER FI. NP205024/01. 07/22/2008. BREEDER: Diana Engeszer. By Ch Beulaland's Incred'ble Stormi-Artemis Andromeda of CocknBull. OWNER: Diana Engeszer Crystal Risius Rebecca Arvieux.
BULLDOGS, Bred-By-Exhibitor Dogs .
A
9 ARTEMIS CEDRIC. NP170610/04. 07/15/2007. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Beulahlands Incred'bl Stormi-Artemis Andromeda Of Cocknbull. OWNER: Diana Engeszer.
1
11 DOGGONE OMEGA'S HURRICANE GORDON. NP212489/01. 09/14/2008. BREEDER: Rachel Garde & Miriam Olesen. By Ch Silverspoon's Nothing Personal-Ch Omega's Devil In Disguise. OWNER: Rachel Garde & Miriam Olesen.
A
35 JB'S BIGFOOT FILO. NP109773/01. 08/31/2005. BREEDER: Charles Hicks & Tony Huff. By Christians Big Kahuna-Faith Wilson. OWNER: Tony Huff.
BULLDOGS, Open Dogs .
2
21 ARTEMIS CORMACK. NP170610/01. 07/15/2007. BREEDER: Diana Engeszer. By Ch Beulahlands Incred'bl Stormi-Artemis Andromeda of Cocknbull. OWNER: Diana Engeszer & Dan Caldwell & Kim Caldwell.
1/W/BW
33 SCOTT'S DOLMICH MONTE MACPHISTO. NP170278/01. 06/25/2007. BREEDER: Karen Scott. By Ch Millcoats Noah of Bullrun-Scott Walker Slo Jen Fizz. OWNER: Dolphus and Michelle Thacker and Karen Scott.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Bitches 6 Mos & Under 9 Mos .
1/W/OS
6 DOGGONE OMEGA'S HURRICANE RITA. NP212489/03. 09/14/2008. BREEDER: Rachel Garde & Miriam Olesen. By Ch Silverspoon's Nothing Personal-Ch Omega's Devilin Disguise. OWNER: Rachel Garde & Mirian Olesen.
2
31 SCOTT DOLMICH PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHT. NP212605/02. 09/16/2008. BREEDER: Karen Scott. By Ch Millcoats Pilgrim's W.J.-Scott's Amy Anna. OWNER: Dolphus and Michelle Thacker and Karen Scott.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Bitches 9 Mos & Under 12 Mos .
1/R
12 GLENDARS SHE BELONGS TO ME. NP208562/02. 07/23/2008. BREEDER: Dara & Glen Carr. By Ch Glendars Dylan-Ch Glendars Forever Diamondz. OWNER: Carrie Cowles Dara & Glen Carr.
2
20 BOOTLEG'S EXACT OF PEYTON'S PLACE. 20416101. 06/01/2008. BREEDER: Sharon Gatt. By Ch Cherokee Legend Floyd-Rychochet Ultra Violet. OWNER: Kellie Thiel & Shannon Smith.
BULLDOGS, Twelve To Eighteen Month Bitches .
A
16 RED DOG'S UNICA. NP205325/01. 12/07/2007. BREEDER: Michelle & Alex Rodriguez. By Ch Little Ponds Chief-Ch Red Dog's Pride Land Kiara. OWNER: Michelle & Alex Rodriguez.
A
22 SHOW-ME WHITE OAK'S CHINA DOLL. NP195743/07. 04/01/2008. BREEDER: Hollie T. Hon Jr. By Ch Sandy Ridge Chief Seminole-White Oak's Angel Dust. OWNER: Trudy Coleman & Dewayne Coleman.
BULLDOGS, Bred-By-Exhibitor Bitches .
1
10 DOGGONE OMEGA'S HURRICANE KATRINA. NP212489/02. 09/14/2008. BREEDER: Rachel Garde & Miriam Olesen. By Ch Silverspoon's Nothing Personal-Ch Omega's Devil In Disguise. OWNER: Rachel Garde & Miriam Olesen.
2
18 MAGIC'S PREMONITION. NP185655/02. 08/20/2007. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Beulalands Incred'bl Stormi-Magic's Boogaloo. OWNER: Vicky Sanborn.
A
26 BULLION DIAMOND PIAGET. NP108855/01. 07/26/2005. BREEDER: Janis L. Mullin. By Ch Talloak's Rio Bravo-Bullion Diamond Ebel. OWNER: Janis L. Mullin.
BULLDOGS, Open Bitches .
A
8 DOG GONE'S HIGH VOLTAGE. NP082363/03. 12/03/2004. BREEDER: Rachel L Olesen. By Ch Omega's Wanna Talk About Me-Ch Omega's Tinkerbell. OWNER: Rachel & Richard Garde.
1
14 BEAUTIES MISS CHIEF. NP205379/01. 06/16/2008. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Little Ponds Chief-Ch Beauties Uma Goodness. OWNER: Darlene Stuedemann.
BULLDOGS, Best of Breed Competition .

5 CH TWIN LAKES DUKE OF EARL. NP105671/03. 05/29/2005. Dog. BREEDER: Lonny L & Donna S Stoffer. By Ch Dygros Die Hard At Twin Lakes-Twin Lakes Coffee Tea Or Me. OWNER: Elden S & Constance A Kraus.
A
23 RODEO RED DOGS IT'S ALL IN FUN. NP188814/01. 12/01/2007. Dog. BREEDER: Michelle Rodriguez & Alex Rodriguez. By Ch Imperious Rinestone Cowboy-Dora The Explorer. OWNER: Donna Schuchart.
BB
27 CH MAGIC'S STORMI'S COPYCAT. NP142615/01. 05/13/2006. Dog. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Beulahlands Incred'bl Stormi-Magic's Boogaloo. OWNER: Vickey Sanborn.
A
39 CH SHOW-ME JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE. NP172672/01. 06/22/2007. Dog. BREEDER: Trudy Coleman & Jennifer Brandon. By Ch Silverspoons Nothing Personal-Ch Show-Me Desirabull Chanel No. 5. OWNER: Trudy Coleman & Dewayne Coleman.

?Cahaba Valley Kennel Club Inc.
4/26/2009

BULLDOGS
JUDGE: Dr Gerard C Penta
BULLDOGS, Puppy Dogs 6 Mos & Under 9 Mos .
1/W/BW
11 ITSA BRIX. NP213265/03. 09/07/2008. BREEDER: Mary Grider. By Ch Hetherbull Tmars Double R Nothin-Itsa Mildred Anne Klein. OWNER: Mary Grider & Tim & Cathy Brown.
2
23 AVALONS TRAIL OF TEARS FOR YOU. NP214196/06. 09/30/2008. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch Avalon Chewy Chewbacca-Ch Avalon I Can Do That. OWNER: Carol Campbell.
4
30 B&PS BACKCOUNTRY TULLEY MARS. NP213510/03. 08/28/2008. BREEDER: JAMES M SMITH. By B&Ps HARD TIME SPUD-ROLLING MEADOWS PATTY CAKES. OWNER: PATRICIA DYKES.
A
31 B&PS BACKCOUNTRY CAPTAIN PATCH. NP213510/01. 08/28/2008. BREEDER: JAMES M SMITH. By B&Ps HARD TIME SPUD-ROLLING MEADOWS PATTY CAKES. OWNER: DYKES PATRICIA.
3
33 KOSMIC'S ORION THE HUNTER. NP210442/02. 09/15/2008. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch All Star's Silverstreak Catcher-Ch Kosmic's Star Gazer. OWNER: Johnny & Bree Babb.
BULLDOGS, Twelve To Eighteen Month Dogs .
1/R
41 ODOMS ALABAMA ROLL TIDE BUBBA. NP191827/04. 01/21/2008. BREEDER: David Burleigh & Stephanie Burleigh. By Ch Bully 4-U Benchmark Maverick-Fair-View's Little Britches. OWNER: Carolyn E Odom & Larry Odom.
BULLDOGS, Bred-By-Exhibitor Dogs .
1
19 TRIMBULL FULL THROTTLE. NP185241/01. 10/28/2007. BREEDER: Herrell & Angie Collins. By Ch Trimbull Smokin Joe-Ch Trimbull Next Page. OWNER: Herrell & Angie collins.
2
37 ZAMA'S BLUEJEAN'S ROCK. NP139028/08. 07/23/2006. BREEDER: Ken L Baker. By Hetherbull Rockabye's Deuce-Maci's Princess Roxie. OWNER: Ken L Baker.
BULLDOGS, Open Dogs .
A
5 SHADOWLAND'S WANDERING BULL BRUTUS. NP088688/05. 11/15/2004. BREEDER: D'Elda Germany & Karen Silver. By Ch Rocket City's Ambush-Her Magesty's Royal Azlyn. OWNER: Patricia Dykes. AGENT: Jason Starr.
A
9 NOTORIOUS WALDO PEPPER. NP149038/06. 09/19/2006. BREEDER: Rick & Kelly & Eric Franz & Pat Wise. By Ch My Toys Mighty Texas Legend-Ch Imperious Wise Fear Factor. OWNER: Peter & Rosemary Jenner.
2
15 TWIN LAKES LLB. NP105671/01. 05/29/2005. BREEDER: Lonny L Stoffer & Donna S Stoffer. By Ch Dygros Die Hard at Twin Lakes-Twin Lakes Coffee Tea or Me. OWNER: Una & Barry Baxter. AGENT: Donna Stoffer.
A
17 TRIMBULL FASTER THAN LIGHT. NP184699/01. 03/31/2007. BREEDER: Herrell & Angie Collins. By TMAR'S Look my Way-Ch Trimbull Make No Mistake. OWNER: Herrell & Angie Collins.
1
21 TRIMBULL GENTLEMAN JACK. NP188465/01. 12/18/2007. BREEDER: Herrell & Angie Collins. By Ch Trimbull No Looking Back-Trimbull You Can Do Magic. OWNER: Herrell & Angie Collins.
3
43 PHENIX'S SMOOCH. NP179513/05. 07/24/2007. BREEDER: Jo Anne Menefee. By Ch Phenix's Genuine Draft-Phenix's Lil'Dancer. OWNER: Natalie & Wayne Rivera. AGENT: Norlee Reece.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Bitches 6 Mos & Under 9 Mos .
2
8 TMAR ADAMOS DOUBLE MINT. NP215999/03. 10/23/2008. BREEDER: Telitha & Martin Blackwood & Jean Hetherington. By Ch Tmars Double Stuf-Ch Hetherbull Carmel Candy. OWNER: Nick and Amy Netherland.
A
26 TMAR HETHERBULL I LOVE LUCEE. NP215999/01. 10/23/2008. BREEDER: Telitha & Martin Blackwood Jean Hetherington. By Ch Tmars Double Stuf-Ch Hetherbull Carmel Candy. OWNER: Telitha & Martin Blackwood Jean Hetherington.
1
32 KOSMIC'S RINGS OF SATURN. NP210442/01. 09/15/2008. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch All Star's Silverstreak Catcher-Ch Kosmic's Star Gazer. OWNER: Johnny & Bree Babb.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Bitches 9 Mos & Under 12 Mos .
1/R
20 TRIMBULL DREAMS COME TRUE. NP201573/01. 05/22/2008. BREEDER: Melissa & Mark Stiles Herrell & Angie Collins. By Ch Trimbull Rough Rider-Stilabulls Bit O Honey. OWNER: Melissa & Mark Stiles Herrell & Angie Collins.
BULLDOGS, Twelve To Eighteen Month Bitches .
2
6 MILLERBULL'S ICED BAILEYS N' CREME. NP201926/03. 04/04/2008. BREEDER: Randy Miller & Linda Miller. By Bodannas Yeah It's a Hemi RN-Millerbull's Lydia Oh Lydia. OWNER: Nancy Nordlund & Mary Amann & Randy Miller.
A
12 RED DOG'S FORGET ME NOT. NP188815/04. 12/01/2007. BREEDER: Michelle & Alex Rodriguez. By Ch Imperious Rhinestone Cowboy-Red Dog's Destiny. OWNER: Peter & Rosemary Jenner & Kelly Franz.
A
14 PATS DORTHIAS SUNNY DELIGHT. NP193333/01. 02/02/2008. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Pats Mister Man Hudson-Pats Dorthia Sunshine By Jb. OWNER: Julie Patin.
A
22 KOSMIC'S TRIPLE E THE GIFT OF BABB. NP196056/01. 03/27/2008. BREEDER: Johnny & Bree Babb. By Ch Rantom's Prince Hal-Dockside Avalanche. OWNER: Johnny & Bree Babb & Judi Honea.
1
36 PHENIX'S ZAZZLE. NP210859/03. 03/18/2008. BREEDER: JoAnn Menafee. By Phenix's Genuine Draft-Phenix's Made To Order. OWNER: Natalie & Wayne Rivera. AGENT: Norlee Reece.
BULLDOGS, Bred-By-Exhibitor Bitches .
A
16 PATS SWEET REBA. NP160275/02. 02/26/2007. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Millcoats Hudspeth Of Bullrun-Pats Sweet Alysum Of Bullrun. OWNER: Julie Patin.
1
18 ITSA MABEL ANNE. NP213265/05. 09/07/2008. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Heatherbull Tmar's Double R Nothin-Itsa Mildred Anne Klein. OWNER: Mary Grider.
A
28 AVALONS BELLA OF THE BALL. NP184887/05. 10/23/2007. BREEDER: Owner. By He's Just A Little Dozer-Avalon Laura Ashley. OWNER: Carol Campbell.
BULLDOGS, Open Bitches .
2
10 CASH'S CONTENDING TO WIN. NP178484/04. 09/08/2007. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch Dowats The Contender-Cash's Dawn Marie No Way Out. OWNER: Christie L & Lisa M Cash & Lacey J Gentry. AGENT: Jason Starr.
1/W/OS
24 TRIMBULL TMAR DOUBLE TROUBLE. NP161817/01. 10/24/2006. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch Tmar's Double Stuf-Ch Trimbull Watching Over Me. OWNER: Telitha Blackwood & Angie & Herrell Collins.
BULLDOGS, Best of Breed Competition .

25 AVALON GO BIG RED SOONER. NP156402/06. 01/11/2007. Dog. BREEDER: Carol Campbell. By Rosebrgh Avalon All About Scout-Sandy Ridge Paper Trale. OWNER: Carol Campbell.
BB
27 AVALON PATCH-ADAMS. NP158520/05. 01/30/2007. Dog. BREEDER: Carol Campbell. By Ch Odoms Alabama Ace In The Hole-Avalon Laura Ashley. OWNER: Carol Campbell.
A
29 MARTIN'S WHISKEY SHOOTER. NP152843/02. 11/20/2006. Dog. BREEDER: Dawn Martin. By Ch Only Ralph Lauren-Lil'Boy's Lucy Lou. OWNER: Kathy Harris & Marie Thomas.

39 CH ODOMS ALABAMA ACE IN THE HOLE. NP052009/02. 01/02/2004. Dog. BREEDER: Carolyn E Odom. By Ch Cherokee Legend Dreamchaser-Annies Lady Of The Mountain. OWNER: Carolyn & Larry Odom.
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And below there are 11 Absents, where there was a total of 32 entered, again, more than 1/3 absent...
Cahaba Valley Kennel Club Inc.
4/26/2009

BULLDOGS
JUDGE: Dr Gerard C Penta
BULLDOGS, Puppy Dogs 6 Mos & Under 9 Mos .
1/W/BW
11 ITSA BRIX. NP213265/03. 09/07/2008. BREEDER: Mary Grider. By Ch Hetherbull Tmars Double R Nothin-Itsa Mildred Anne Klein. OWNER: Mary Grider & Tim & Cathy Brown.
2
23 AVALONS TRAIL OF TEARS FOR YOU. NP214196/06. 09/30/2008. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch Avalon Chewy Chewbacca-Ch Avalon I Can Do That. OWNER: Carol Campbell.
4
30 B&PS BACKCOUNTRY TULLEY MARS. NP213510/03. 08/28/2008. BREEDER: JAMES M SMITH. By B&Ps HARD TIME SPUD-ROLLING MEADOWS PATTY CAKES. OWNER: PATRICIA DYKES.
A
31 B&PS BACKCOUNTRY CAPTAIN PATCH. NP213510/01. 08/28/2008. BREEDER: JAMES M SMITH. By B&Ps HARD TIME SPUD-ROLLING MEADOWS PATTY CAKES. OWNER: DYKES PATRICIA.
3
33 KOSMIC'S ORION THE HUNTER. NP210442/02. 09/15/2008. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch All Star's Silverstreak Catcher-Ch Kosmic's Star Gazer. OWNER: Johnny & Bree Babb.
BULLDOGS, Twelve To Eighteen Month Dogs .
1/R
41 ODOMS ALABAMA ROLL TIDE BUBBA. NP191827/04. 01/21/2008. BREEDER: David Burleigh & Stephanie Burleigh. By Ch Bully 4-U Benchmark Maverick-Fair-View's Little Britches. OWNER: Carolyn E Odom & Larry Odom.
BULLDOGS, Bred-By-Exhibitor Dogs .
1
19 TRIMBULL FULL THROTTLE. NP185241/01. 10/28/2007. BREEDER: Herrell & Angie Collins. By Ch Trimbull Smokin Joe-Ch Trimbull Next Page. OWNER: Herrell & Angie collins.
2
37 ZAMA'S BLUEJEAN'S ROCK. NP139028/08. 07/23/2006. BREEDER: Ken L Baker. By Hetherbull Rockabye's Deuce-Maci's Princess Roxie. OWNER: Ken L Baker.
BULLDOGS, Open Dogs .
A
5 SHADOWLAND'S WANDERING BULL BRUTUS. NP088688/05. 11/15/2004. BREEDER: D'Elda Germany & Karen Silver. By Ch Rocket City's Ambush-Her Magesty's Royal Azlyn. OWNER: Patricia Dykes. AGENT: Jason Starr.
A
9 NOTORIOUS WALDO PEPPER. NP149038/06. 09/19/2006. BREEDER: Rick & Kelly & Eric Franz & Pat Wise. By Ch My Toys Mighty Texas Legend-Ch Imperious Wise Fear Factor. OWNER: Peter & Rosemary Jenner.
2
15 TWIN LAKES LLB. NP105671/01. 05/29/2005. BREEDER: Lonny L Stoffer & Donna S Stoffer. By Ch Dygros Die Hard at Twin Lakes-Twin Lakes Coffee Tea or Me. OWNER: Una & Barry Baxter. AGENT: Donna Stoffer.
A
17 TRIMBULL FASTER THAN LIGHT. NP184699/01. 03/31/2007. BREEDER: Herrell & Angie Collins. By TMAR'S Look my Way-Ch Trimbull Make No Mistake. OWNER: Herrell & Angie Collins.
1
21 TRIMBULL GENTLEMAN JACK. NP188465/01. 12/18/2007. BREEDER: Herrell & Angie Collins. By Ch Trimbull No Looking Back-Trimbull You Can Do Magic. OWNER: Herrell & Angie Collins.
3
43 PHENIX'S SMOOCH. NP179513/05. 07/24/2007. BREEDER: Jo Anne Menefee. By Ch Phenix's Genuine Draft-Phenix's Lil'Dancer. OWNER: Natalie & Wayne Rivera. AGENT: Norlee Reece.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Bitches 6 Mos & Under 9 Mos .
2
8 TMAR ADAMOS DOUBLE MINT. NP215999/03. 10/23/2008. BREEDER: Telitha & Martin Blackwood & Jean Hetherington. By Ch Tmars Double Stuf-Ch Hetherbull Carmel Candy. OWNER: Nick and Amy Netherland.
A
26 TMAR HETHERBULL I LOVE LUCEE. NP215999/01. 10/23/2008. BREEDER: Telitha & Martin Blackwood Jean Hetherington. By Ch Tmars Double Stuf-Ch Hetherbull Carmel Candy. OWNER: Telitha & Martin Blackwood Jean Hetherington.
1
32 KOSMIC'S RINGS OF SATURN. NP210442/01. 09/15/2008. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch All Star's Silverstreak Catcher-Ch Kosmic's Star Gazer. OWNER: Johnny & Bree Babb.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Bitches 9 Mos & Under 12 Mos .
1/R
20 TRIMBULL DREAMS COME TRUE. NP201573/01. 05/22/2008. BREEDER: Melissa & Mark Stiles Herrell & Angie Collins. By Ch Trimbull Rough Rider-Stilabulls Bit O Honey. OWNER: Melissa & Mark Stiles Herrell & Angie Collins.
BULLDOGS, Twelve To Eighteen Month Bitches .
2
6 MILLERBULL'S ICED BAILEYS N' CREME. NP201926/03. 04/04/2008. BREEDER: Randy Miller & Linda Miller. By Bodannas Yeah It's a Hemi RN-Millerbull's Lydia Oh Lydia. OWNER: Nancy Nordlund & Mary Amann & Randy Miller.
A
12 RED DOG'S FORGET ME NOT. NP188815/04. 12/01/2007. BREEDER: Michelle & Alex Rodriguez. By Ch Imperious Rhinestone Cowboy-Red Dog's Destiny. OWNER: Peter & Rosemary Jenner & Kelly Franz.
A
14 PATS DORTHIAS SUNNY DELIGHT. NP193333/01. 02/02/2008. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Pats Mister Man Hudson-Pats Dorthia Sunshine By Jb. OWNER: Julie Patin.
A
22 KOSMIC'S TRIPLE E THE GIFT OF BABB. NP196056/01. 03/27/2008. BREEDER: Johnny & Bree Babb. By Ch Rantom's Prince Hal-Dockside Avalanche. OWNER: Johnny & Bree Babb & Judi Honea.
1
36 PHENIX'S ZAZZLE. NP210859/03. 03/18/2008. BREEDER: JoAnn Menafee. By Phenix's Genuine Draft-Phenix's Made To Order. OWNER: Natalie & Wayne Rivera. AGENT: Norlee Reece.
BULLDOGS, Bred-By-Exhibitor Bitches .
A
16 PATS SWEET REBA. NP160275/02. 02/26/2007. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Millcoats Hudspeth Of Bullrun-Pats Sweet Alysum Of Bullrun. OWNER: Julie Patin.
1
18 ITSA MABEL ANNE. NP213265/05. 09/07/2008. BREEDER: Owner. By Ch Heatherbull Tmar's Double R Nothin-Itsa Mildred Anne Klein. OWNER: Mary Grider.
A
28 AVALONS BELLA OF THE BALL. NP184887/05. 10/23/2007. BREEDER: Owner. By He's Just A Little Dozer-Avalon Laura Ashley. OWNER: Carol Campbell.
BULLDOGS, Open Bitches .
2
10 CASH'S CONTENDING TO WIN. NP178484/04. 09/08/2007. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch Dowats The Contender-Cash's Dawn Marie No Way Out. OWNER: Christie L & Lisa M Cash & Lacey J Gentry. AGENT: Jason Starr.
1/W/OS
24 TRIMBULL TMAR DOUBLE TROUBLE. NP161817/01. 10/24/2006. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch Tmar's Double Stuf-Ch Trimbull Watching Over Me. OWNER: Telitha Blackwood & Angie & Herrell Collins.
BULLDOGS, Best of Breed Competition .

25 AVALON GO BIG RED SOONER. NP156402/06. 01/11/2007. Dog. BREEDER: Carol Campbell. By Rosebrgh Avalon All About Scout-Sandy Ridge Paper Trale. OWNER: Carol Campbell.
BB
27 AVALON PATCH-ADAMS. NP158520/05. 01/30/2007. Dog. BREEDER: Carol Campbell. By Ch Odoms Alabama Ace In The Hole-Avalon Laura Ashley. OWNER: Carol Campbell.
A
29 MARTIN'S WHISKEY SHOOTER. NP152843/02. 11/20/2006. Dog. BREEDER: Dawn Martin. By Ch Only Ralph Lauren-Lil'Boy's Lucy Lou. OWNER: Kathy Harris & Marie Thomas.

39 CH ODOMS ALABAMA ACE IN THE HOLE. NP052009/02. 01/02/2004. Dog. BREEDER: Carolyn E Odom. By Ch Cherokee Legend Dreamchaser-Annies Lady Of The Mountain. OWNER: Carolyn & Larry Odom.
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And below there are 11 Absent out of 28 entered, again, more than 1/3 the entry absent.
Stephenville Kennel Club of TX Inc. (2)
4/12/2009

BULLDOGS
JUDGE: Mr Robert E Hall
BULLDOGS, Puppy Dogs 6 Mos & Under 9 Mos .
2
5 DIAMONDS WARMVALLEY LIL BOOMER. NP210231/01. 09/12/2008. BREEDER: SUZIE WHEELER. By Ch HELFYRE WARMVALLEY SIXSPENCE-DIAMONDS SPLASHY LITTLE MARTY. OWNER: SUZIE WHEELER.
1/W
27 KARMA'S LIKE A HURRICANE. NP223534/01. 09/21/2008. BREEDER: Wendell & Pat Tinsley R Grogg G Dyson D Allison. By Ch Newcomb's Scorpion-Ch Dygros Instant Karma. OWNER: Wendell & Pat Tinsley.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Dogs 9 Mos & Under 12 Mos .
A
31 DV'S WHOLE LOTTA BOOTSCOOTIN LOVIN. NP214692/04. 05/27/2008. BREEDER: Donna Vasbinder. By Ch DV's Bootscootin Boogie-DV's Whole Lotta Lovin. OWNER: Polly Dupree.
BULLDOGS, Twelve To Eighteen Month Dogs .
A
29 RODEO RED DOGS IT'S ALL IN FUN. NP188814/01. 12/01/2007. BREEDER: Michelle Rodriguez & Alex Rodriguez. By Ch Imperious Rinestone Cowboy-Dora The Explorer. OWNER: Donna Schuchart.
BULLDOGS, Bred-By-Exhibitor Dogs .
1
11 SWAIM'S OLIVER. NP173542/01. 06/27/2007. BREEDER: Kenneth & Jean Swaim & Van Blevins & Rhonda Cavett. By Swaim's Classtbull Pick-Classybull Onahill Ronnie. OWNER: Kenneth & Jean Swaim.
2
17 FULLER'S DIDDY BOP OF DOWATS. NP088571/02. 01/07/2005. BREEDER: Owners. By Ch Chimera Dowats The Bandit-Dowats Sabo's Simply Noel. OWNER: Tom & Celia Fuller & Lucky & Donna Watson.
BULLDOGS, American-Bred Dogs .
1
19 SHOWTIME K-B'S CHAPS N SPURS. NP141117/02. 07/30/2006. BREEDER: Brenda Beams. By Ch Ch. Millcoats Hudspeth of Bullrun-Beams Ms Hattie of Bullrun. OWNER: Kandis Bonnet.
BULLDOGS, Open Dogs .
2
7 K-B'S MISTER BOZLEY. NP171646/01. 07/06/2007. BREEDER: Kandis Bonnet. By Ch Dowats The Contender-Liberty Softail Huntress. OWNER: Linda Scott & Kandis Bonnett.
1/R
15 BONDS WEST TECH JESSE JAMES. NP204902/04. 06/08/2008. BREEDER: Owner & Kim & Travis Crossland. By Ch Silverspoons Nothing Personal-Poboy's Mad About Blaryn. OWNER: Sammy Bond.
A
23 POBOY'S GOOD TO GO. NP161880/01. 03/10/2007. BREEDER: Kim & Travis Crossland Kendall Grissom. By Ch Adamant Warlock-Ch Poboy's Blaryn Dixie. OWNER: Kim & Travis Crossland Kendall Grissom.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Bitches 6 Mos & Under 9 Mos .
2
22 KARMA'S PRIVATE DANCER. NP212962/01. 09/15/2008. BREEDER: Wendell Tinsley & Pat Dearden Jim & Kathy Moss. By Ch Cedar Lane Major League's RBI-Ch Karma's Dancing Queen. OWNER: Wendell & Pat Tinsley.
A
28 DUPREE'S I'M JAZZED AT KIPATAKIS. NP208102/04. 08/31/2008. BREEDER: Dorothy Snowden & Ronnie Gilbert. By Kipatakis Choctaw-Cameron On A Hill-Kipatakis Kashoge Jo. OWNER: Polly Dupree.
1
32 KARMA'S DON'T STOP BELIEVIN'. NP223533/02. 09/21/2008. BREEDER: Wendell & Pat Tinsley R Grogg G Dyson D Allison. By Ch Karma's Big Shot-Ch Dygros Instant Karma. OWNER: Lisa & Jason Mosely Wendell & Pat Tinsley.
3
34 KARMA'S DEJA VU. NP212962/02. 09/15/2008. BREEDER: Wendell & Pat Tinsley Jim & Kathy Moss. By Ch Cedar Lane Major League's RBI-Ch Karma's Dancing Queen. OWNER: Lisa & Jason Mosely Wendell & Pat Tinsley.
BULLDOGS, Puppy Bitches 9 Mos & Under 12 Mos .
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16 DV'S NAUGHTY BY NATURE. NP214692/02. 05/27/2008. BREEDER: Donna L. Vasbinder. By Ch DV's Bootscootin Boogie-DV's Whole Lotta Lovin. OWNER: Donna L. Vasbinder. AGENT: Tracy Potts.
BULLDOGS, Twelve To Eighteen Month Bitches .
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12 MCAFEE'S RUBY DONT TAKE YOUR LOVE TO TOWN. NP192406/01. 12/11/2007. BREEDER: Ward and Natalie McAfee. By Ch Ch. Dowats The Contender-Ch Ch. McAfee's What's Your Name. OWNER: Ward and Natalie McAfee.
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24 RED DOG'S UNICA. NP205325/01. 12/07/2007. BREEDER: Michelle & Alex Rodriguez. By Ch Little Ponds Chief-Ch Red Dog's Pride Land Kiara. OWNER: Michelle & Alex Rodriguez.
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26 MCAFEE-CRISCO'S MAKE LOVE STAY. NP192406/02. 12/11/2007. BREEDER: Ward & Natalie McAfee. By Ch Dowats The Contender-Ch McAfee's What's Your Name. OWNER: Ward & Natalie McAfee & Jim & Deanna Crisco.
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30 IMPERIOUS NOTORIOUS BONNIE PARKER. NP203143/02. 03/24/2008. BREEDER: Rosemary Jenner & Kelly Franz. By Ch Imperious Topnotch's Pick Up The Pace-Ch Imperious Desireabull Jasmine. OWNER: Rick & Kelly Franz & Peter & Rosemary Jenner.
BULLDOGS, Bred-By-Exhibitor Bitches .
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10 K-B'S CHARLOTTE'S WEB. NP171646/03. 07/06/2007. BREEDER: Kandis Bonnet. By Ch BIS BISS Ch. Dowat's The Contender-Liberty Softail Huntress CGC. OWNER: Kandis Bonnet.
BULLDOGS, Open Bitches .
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8 BONDS WEST TECH LAYZ HANNAH. NP159678/04. 02/24/2007. BREEDER: Owner & Kim & Travis Crossland. By Ch Adamant Warlock-Poboy's Mad About Blaryn. OWNER: Sammy Bond.
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14 MCAFEE'S SISTER GOLDEN HAIR. NP102282/03. 06/03/2005. BREEDER: Alin Retezatu. By Ch Cherokee Legend Pretty Boy-Ch Omega's Isabella Rose. OWNER: Ward & Natalie Mcafee.
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18 NOTE A BULL'S AT LAST. NP121677/02. 12/07/2005. BREEDER: Debbi & Lance Golding. By Ch Graybull's Charm N Vallee Boy-Ch Note A Bull's Nica's Dream. OWNER: Deirdre & Bob Jack.
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20 POBOY'S SHE ROCKS. NP159678/01. 02/24/2007. BREEDER: Sammy Bond & Kim & Travis Crossland. By CH Adamant Warlock-Poboy's Mad About Blaryn. OWNER: Kim & Travis Crossland & Kendall Grissom.
BULLDOGS, Best of Breed Competition .

9 CH DOWATS-FRONTIER THE GOVERNOR. NP162454/03. 04/07/2007. Dog. BREEDER: Dorothy Snowden & Lucky & Donna Watson. By Ch Dowats The Contender-Ch Dowats Cream Of The Crop & Kipataki. OWNER: Harlan & Linda Scott & Lucky & Donna Watson.
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21 CH DV'S MACHO MAN. NP045774/01. 06/16/2003. Dog. BREEDER: Owner & Diana H Young. By Ch Chimera Dowats The Bandit-Ch Chaparra & DV's She Bangs!. OWNER: Donna L Vasbinder. AGENT: Tracy Potts.
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25 CH KARMA'S PURPLE HAZE. NP138981/05. 06/19/2006. Dog. BREEDER: Pat Dearden & Wendell Tinsley & Ruby Grogg. By Ch Karma's Hide Your Heart Girl-Dygros Elegant Southern Belle. OWNER: Pat Dearden & Wendell Tinsley.
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36 CH DOWATS MONA LISA. NP144869/01. 08/09/2006. Bitch. BREEDER: Lucky Watson & Donna Watson. By Ch DoWats Damn Strait-Ch Bullets Bullys Lacy. OWNER: Lucky & Donna Watson.




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Nice job .........

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Web master told me these threads were within the guidelines because we weren't caling each other names.
Here we have you coming back saying I must have some form of agenda to hurt someone... the furthest from the truth..

I pasted something factual from Infodog and many, some maybe the guilty, start spinning it in my direction as a distraction from what really happened and can hapen again

I have no ill feelings towards you but you make it very difficult. Many have ill feelings towards me just because of these posts where I bring to light discreptencies that are pure examples of poor sportsmanship. I'm not going to allow other exhibitors to trash on another bulldogger and stand there and watch. It's not my nature. These are fellow bulldoggers we're talking about, not some PETA affiliated idiots... These are suppose to be our friends, partners and so on....

What you said in other threads and on the same topic insinuated that boycotting of judges is more likely to happen back east or down south.. I merely responded to what you said. I have no idea what goes down elsewhere in such detail as you seem to know but I do know B/S when I see it...

My agenda? To promote honest and fair behavior at dog shows. When you see me hurting other exhibitors in an unsportsman like way, please bring me to task. Meanwhile, when you see "wrong" going down and it's not in line with our ethics rules, bring it to task. It won't make you popular but it also won't make you wrong for doing so......

You just have to have the will to promote good sportsmanship.



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Thanks...but........

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<<Here we have you coming back saying I must have some form of agenda to hurt someone>>

PLEASE Marcel, WHERE did I say anything in my reply that YOU had an agenda??? Sometimes you seem to get so wound up that you say things you must not mean to say.

All I said, in reply to your comments about absent entries, is that I really see that more common in other places, compared to shows in CA.

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OK, now back to the original thread about what realy went down this past weekend....

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I understand where you're coming from. Sorry if that I singled out your thread about the east coast / southerners remark I guess I read it wrong.

This still doesn't diminish the original thread I posted about the Gridley shows... That's still a big Wow!!! I also was 3300 miles away, so I had nothing to do with that situation. I merely posted what I saw... It's up to all of you to either learn from this or just brush it under the rug.....

Let's move on..........


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Marcel....

You can call it what you want....but for as long as I've been in Bulldogs (longer than you), it is not uncommon thought that if one dog goes Group 1 and BIS, and the Group judge is the next days Breed judge, well, no using showing... Why bother getting that dog ready and pulled to the ring.

However, the real issue is......if you are so astute and read Info dog and see what is going on in the shows.....why did you single out this show, yet, as I pointed out.... having a large number of absents seems to me...more common in other parts of the country.....


This still doesn't diminish the original thread I posted about the Gridley shows... That's still a big Wow!!! I also was 3300 miles away, so I had nothing to do with that situation. I merely posted what I saw... It's up to all of you to either learn from this or just brush it under the rug.....


Yes, good sportsmanship is very important. But it covers a lot of things, other than in the actual ring. It can include how someone posts things, implying things, or even nasty, curt remarks or emails that are ugly. That all comes under sportsmanlike conduct.


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I don't know why my reply came out like it did on the print....but below is what I said....

Yes, good sportsmanship is very important. But it covers a lot of things, other than in the actual ring. It can include how someone posts things, implying things, or even nasty, curt remarks or emails that are ugly. That all comes under sportsmanlike conduct.


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Really?????????????????

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You said this:

"You can call it what you want....but for as long as I've been in Bulldogs (longer than you), it is not uncommon thought that if one dog goes Group 1 and BIS, and the Group judge is the next days Breed judge, well, no using showing... Why bother getting that dog ready and pulled to the ring."


So, when one wins Best in Show or Group, the specials the next day are OK not enterring? WOW!!!

Lillian won Gp 1 from the classes, we all showed our specials the next day as it is a different day. Lillian never made it to RWD under the same judge the next day. I won BOB with my dog because I showed up.. Then I went to group competition even though that day's group judge dumped me the day before for Lillian's class dog. I did it as a good sport and respect to the breed judge. There's no room for attitude in the ring..... It's where mature people meet to show their dogs.

Secondly: The people in Gridley pulled on Saturday. Why did they show up on Sunday??? They were going to lose anyway, right? Funny thing is, a different dog won, like what might have happened had they showed up on Sat. BTW: trust me, you don't have the complete story and it now looks like you're back peddling for your friends. In addition, the affected person is also your firend, have compassion for one subjected to poor sportsmanship rather than make excuses for it.
If I were her, I'd be taking you off my Christmas card list..

Two last examples: Last year in Ventura and in Utah, two seperate dogs won BIS and all competing showed for the remaining days. Those two dogs were defeated each and everyday thereafter.

This makes your point mute...........

Try promoting good sportsmanship. That's what I'm doing while chastizing others who are not quite good at it...

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"trust me, you don't have the complete story and it now looks like you're back peddling for your friends. In addition, the affected"

You dont have the complete story either....you werent there. What you have is hear say.

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You are one prime example of bad sportsmanship and a poor example of someone to listen to. You seem to thrive on stirring the pot, of keeping old grudges, and making the story up or change as you go along.

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you don't have the complete story and it now looks like you're back peddling for your friends. In addition, the affected person is also your firend, have compassion for one subjected to poor sportsmanship rather than make excuses for it.
If I were her, I'd be taking you off my Christmas card list..
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That's right, I wasn't there, don't know the whole story. Neither do you. All I said was on the subject of dogs absent....that I TRULY don't think that exhibitors in CA pull their dogs or are absent near as much as I have seen on show results from other areas of the country. Again, one can suppose what the story was there, make excuses, whatever, and I truly don't give a damn. It was just an observation.

So get off your one track mind, see what else you can do to help the sport and breed.


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Many disagree with you.........

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Patti,

Lots of e-mails have come my way, many are freinds of yours, who have said, "right on".

Calling me a bad sport while we hash over a situation that was a pure illustration of poor sportsmanship is just a cheap shot.

I would like you to be specific about how I'm a bad sport. Is it because I carried a torch for someone that was wronged while showing their dog? This situation had so many negative dynamics, it's incredible... It also dod nothing to promote good sportsmanship.

Some who e-mailed asked and laughed about how you contradict me on anything I post or say.

I say the rocket launch yesterday was going to the moon, you says,"no, it was heading for Hawaii"...

Good thing others see you defending poor sportsmanship by launching on the messenger.

You've helped many understand where you're coming from.

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Re: Many disagree with you.........

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Marcel

You are so full of yourself.

I was only ending it by stating I only felt that absent dogs were more common elsewhere.

If you have received emails regarding this thread, good. So have I. Guess we are even!

As far as when I might have a comment to something you say, it usually is because you are so far in left field I have to say something. But, at least one can't say I email you then personally with very ugly and unprofessional comments... but I do have those I have received from you.

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Patti, read the new post from today, Friday the 19th.

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Yes I am full of myself. Better than what you're full of.

Why don't you call Doris and apologize for carrying the torch for unsportsman like behavior.

Like Tracy Ulman use to say at the end of shows, "Go home......go home...."

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Patti, you there??

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So, what do you think about Doris' daughter's response? Still think I'm full of myself for defending a friend? You all have to understand that when you talk negative stuff just to discredit and hide behind, it hurts more than just the exhibitor you don't like, it goes all the way to that exhibitors family...and friends (the real ones) and they are getting upset and fed up with the smoke and spin made to hide behind. You're seem good at it.........



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There are many reasons why exhibitors decide to pull there dogs. Two of the shows listed here as examples were held in Montgomery, AL and the main reason for the high number of no shows was due to exhibitors needing majors to finish their dogs. It was a known fact before the first show that there would be enough dogs missing to break the needed majors, so there were some who decided to also pull instead of wasting their money on gas and rooms for possible points that would not help them. I cannot blame them for that considering the high cost of trying to finish a dog. I am not sure about the areas that ya'll are showing in, but here in the Southeast majors are becoming hard to come by. I believe this to be a result of our economy keeping many at home, especially with so many Bulldogs being owner handled. I myself did show all three days, but I needed the points and the shows were close to my home.

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Ken, these were specials we were talking about.

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Different situation....

Keep up being a good sport...... Cheers.

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I'm sorry I really don't mean to be getting into anyone fight but for this show there is a very valid explanation as to why so many dogs were absent. Poor sportsmanship was not in it really right the opposite. All but one or two of the dogs that were absent only needed a major to finish. When the show didnt make a major these dogs were pulled. One of the other absent dogs was my puppy bitch that turn 6 months old that weekend. She wasnt ready to show but would have shown to hold the major when the show didnt make the major she was pulled. Some of the others absent had very valid reasons and most of the reasons revolved around the major breaking.

I cant speak for other parts of the country but here in the southeast where I show this has happen more then normal this spring. There are several dogs and bitches in this area that are singled out and only need majors. The attendance has been down and unfortunately several owners have lost a good bit of entry money being good sports by pulling when the major didnt make and not taking the singles that others can use. I can see where this would look different to someone who doesn't know the people entered but maybe this explains a little about what is going on in our area.
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No problem.... My only point was that the orginal reference was to shows in CA, and that the reason behind it was poor sportsmanship. All I meant to point out is that in reading the results across the country, it seems that ELSEWHERE there is a higher number of absent dogs, quite often. For whatever reason, so be it. But I really can't think of any shows in CA where 1/3 of the dogs are absent. I might be wrong, it won't be the first time.

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No problem from me... Like I said I can see where someone might get the wrong idea by looking at the results. I just wanted to try and explain to all those that read these post what was going on in our area with the absentees. I was lucky because I was chasing singles and didn't have to pull my girl.

Telitha

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go back and look at other breeds, this happens all the time by

if a dog goes BIS many times other dogs are pulled the next day if the judges line up from the groups is in the rings following the shows.


In the big picuture of what is going on in the local, national and world news. THIS IS NOTHING.

put more attention to stopping puppy mills, PETA and the other lobiest, dont shoot eachother or start fires that dont need to be started.

(NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE, JUST GETTING FED UP WITH THIS ****)


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That's what they want you to do, get fed up with it....

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and it keeps coming up over and over again.

Funny you say this while many still avoid me all because I was bit by someone's dog, requested restitution for medical expenses and lost my claim because I was acused of many things that were not true. These eople actually perjured themselves and nobody wants to hear it. Many of you BCNC people even attended a victory party at a Mother Lode show circuit for those that dodged a bullet and didn't have to pay the $1800 medical bills that dog created. So this is OK to carry a torch for while poor sportsmanship thrives and appears over and over again? No.............

I've received so many e-mails today telling me, "right on..!" So, I think some want to see and hear this stuff. What went down is wrong. Put yourself in that person's place and see how it fits.

I just named a dog after a Bob Dylan song that's so appropriate right now and for many of us.
Do you dare to listen to it? It's not directed at you Vicky. I've always thought of you as a fellow bulldogger and respect you very much.

Here's the tune, enjoy and listen to all the words: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54qhjlTNVn0

Takes me back to my Dylan days while I was hunting in Southeast Asia.. I took no crap back then as well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54qhjlTNVn0

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Love Dylan, and the song is so right by

Im a bit grumpy, stressed at work with no sleep.


Now im trying figure out the best way to send a guitar to Afghanistan for Justin. The little communication i have had with him and he asks for a guitar. He was moved yet again to the middle of no where in the huge sand box, no porta potty at all.

I my self have been away from shows for a bit and have been hit and miss. Having been on the screwed end of others, i just dont have time or a care for some **** that goes on.



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Geez, are we done yet??

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Dang!

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The Bulldog sport

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I'm not sure sometimes where we're coming from as a fancy or where we began. As most of you know by now my grandmother is Japanese. My great-great grandfather was the Admiral of the Japanese Navy . My great grandfather was the person physician to the Emperor of Japan. Look it up if you feel the need...the surname is Taniyama. Honor, pride and familial importance is something that is in-bred in me.
Bulldoggers can be so closely knit, then so far apart in the same weekend. I really wonder sometimes if you at large realize (as a fancy) how much disdain the "real world" has for Bulldogs?? Bulldogs are not viewed in a positive light, nor are breeders at large. I recently took a job with a local SPCA veterinary clinic...the masses at large are NOT OUR FRIENDS!!
It is TRULY time to stop all this in fighting...stop all the bs...stop all non sense!! We need to come together right now and fight for our breed..who CARES about personal agenda??? Let's HONOR our breed...let's sacrifice for our breed...NOW before it's too late!
It makes me crazy that more people hit on the last thread than ALL of Jen's threads combined!

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I agree

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It seems as humans, we can get caught up in the silliest of things that don't mean jack in the large picture.

I just lost my husband of 16 years last month, and the petty arguing among couples gets me so upset now. They just don't know how lucky they are to have someone to love.

ENJOY your life, ENJOY your bulldogs, ENJOY ever last second you have on this earth, because you never know when it all will end.

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Very cool Jessica... and God bless you and your family Tammy.....

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It is somewhat disheartening when there is more drama in a hobby like showing dogs than back stage at a cheerleader competition; I mean no disrespect there. I am simply using that analogy as a "stereotypical" example.

My husband and I started showing our first Bulldog 13 years ago. It seemed that there was so much more carmrodery then than there is now. People were not necessarily "friends" but as a whole were "professional" and united in the cause.

I believe we do need to come together for the sake of the breed. We need to celebrate successes, encourage what we believe to be right and good for the whole, and in general leave the competition inside the ring.

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Boycotting entries...../ judges...

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If any of you have ever called others and asked them to pull your dog from the next day's shows for any reason, just know you are practicing the worse form of poor sportsmanship.
Our club ethic rules mention such behavior as forbidden.

Now I know for a fact some of you who have deone this and shame on you............!!!

Just know that what goes around, comes around..... One weekend, you're all begging for others to enter so majors develop. Week later, you're asking others to pull theur entry to ruin a good entry. What's with that??

The rest of us and especially new exhibitors take notice that if your mentor practices this, you're riding on the wrong bus...

Read your ethics section from the BCA and your local club. If some of the officers in the club practice what I say, bring them to task. It's your club and it will crumble if they / you continue with this ill conceived practice. AKC Case Management would also bring you to task if they see or hear written or witnessed testimony to such practices.

Somebody had to say this.....might as well be me, one who has been the victim to such practices when I judged in the past. It bothered me but really hurt the guilty ones so much more as I see them still doing it as they spin faster and faster in the toilet they are riding in. My conscience is clear and studying for other breeds towards a non-sporting license is exposing me to some wonderful people from other breeds. I also don't hear the boycotting word spinning aorund in those circles.. so you bad sports in bulldogs are quite unique...but please DON'T keep up the good work....LOL



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If you don't like the judging panel...don't enter. IMO not entering at all send the clearer message to the clubs as they don't get your money.



    

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True, Jess.

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Not entering a show (because of judging panel) is not the same as entering and not showing (although there could be several reasons for this).

Marcel, funny you should bring this topic up. It seems at Mission circuit a rumor was spinning that Tracy Storck and Myself were trying to get exhibitors to pull their entries from Woofstock (Vallejo) on Saturday and Sunday. These were MAJOR shows all 4 days that Mother Lode Bulldog Club of Sacramento supported 3 of the 4 days.

We encouraged exhibitors to enter. Sure there were a few absentees. But overall we had majors all 4 days for bitches, with the male getting majors 2 of the 4 days. It was a very successful supported entry for our club.

Just goes to show sometimes rumors are just that...RUMORS. Someone has to feel important enough in their own mind.




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Sandra!

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I didn't know which direction this thread was going when I posted. I took a few minutes to look up results and figure it out. It's true people always have reasons for what they do.

"Just goes to show sometimes rumors are just that...RUMORS. Someone has to feel important enough in their own mind. " I couldn't agree with you more here Sandra The truth always has a way of coming out.



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Sounds like the folks who pull there entries are cutting there noses off to spite there faces!
Just dont enter if you dont want to show to a certain judge, much better statement. Clubs check entries on judges because they want to insure big entries, low entries a low amount of assignments!!!
Ward

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I made my point......

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I can't get into specifics about what incidences I know of as that would be pointing fingers.

I wanted to post that this behavior is not good for the fancy....period.

Over the years, I've seen this happen more than once and I could be specific but why?

No matter who did what, it's wrong....and always done to send a message to someone...Crazy stuff and against any form of ethics rules..

It's best to stay home should you not like the judge or who's on a wiining streak that weekend..

If I was asked to appear before a board or AKC official and explain my reasons for this post, I'd be more than happy to do so.

I love showing, breeding and judging dogs. Some of what I see going down at shows really theatens the fancy more than any proposed legislature we're all fighting to keep away. So I just can't stay silent while the infection spreads to new exhibitors, those who are our future breeders and possibly judges.
Cancer grows from within and it does it's job rapidly towards the end.


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I have seen this go on. It is very sad. Your are too show GOOD Sportmanship in AND OUT OF THE RING. When new people ask me way that dog show one day and pull the next, I tell them we will never do this, It BAD to boycote any one no matter the JUDGE.
Be a good sportman and show you dog.
Thomas

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Spoken like a true veteran...

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You the man Tommy...........

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Really seems a habit more back east/south

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I really don't know of this happening out here, I've NEVER heard anyone suggest, ask or promote this.

However, I have been amazed over the last few years in looking at show results where the majority of an entry will be absent at show elsewhere, south, midwest, back east. That I have never understood.



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sometimes people just forget to enter by

We missed an entry a few weeks ago, I forgot (puppies and a tired brain) and since i didnt remind the people i travel with and co-own with non entered.

We had 5 dogs missing from the show. I guess i could be called out for boycotting the show that was in my back yard. but i just forgot.

I have also missed a few shows, 1 i finished my dog on saturday and didnt want to drive 2hrs back on sunday. the other i woke with a migrain and didnt want to drive 2 hrs. 2 of my dogs i show missed the 2nd day as the roads were covered with black ice and i told them to stay away it was dangerous.


Some have reasons for not coming, its my business and no the business of others.



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Totally agree Vicky.

by Shelly

"Some have reasons for not coming, its my business and no the business of others."
Its also my entry fee, if I choose to not enter, pull or not go back the next day, also my choice. People can think, gossip whatever, but until they walk in my shoes and pay my entries its just all talk.


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Some are missing the point I'm talking about...

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This has happened and may happen again and not down south but here in sunny California.

There's somebody in Florida that realized it was happening just by watching who pulled their dogs from a recent show(s). So it does get noticed and that's a good thing...

As I said, I can't mention who without pointing fingers but would again gladly explain my comments to any AKC official or BCA official. Some of these events that affected me even involved an AKC rep to get it straightened out. We could include her in the conversation as I saw her a few weeks ago while being interviewed for my Frenchy license and she clearly remembers when I was grilled by some in our division while I was the invited judge to a club supported entry.

Yes, it's your money, your entry but it's also bad sportsmanship when you pull an entry based on a conserted effort by a group of enterred exhibitors. Kind of like when the cops have the blue flu and call in sick to send a message to the powers to be.

Those that wisk this aside as just me making a big thing about a little thing will feel differently as they begin to judge or get a major yank from them by people pulling their entry. Then we'll probably have to feel bad for them. Rightfully so as this should never even exist in dog showing.

BTW: I'm talking about things that have happended to me and others over the years and specifically during the last few weeks. It's not new, just getting out of hand...

So keep defending the practice and stand out for all of us to see who you all are...

I'm done and now pay attention to who defends the practice of pulling their entry.... That'll help you understand who these people really are...



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Obviously, Marcel

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You dance around what you are trying to say and who you are laying the guilt on. I'm not sure if you are accusing some of conspiracy against a judge, or against other exhibitors in breaking majors. But if you have such a serious situation that you know first hand that was something that was a concerted effort and conspiracy, then perhaps you need to take this up with one of your AKC friends. If it has merit, I'm sure they will look into it.

Otherwise, in reading the show results weekly, I really don't see a big problem in Division III, certainly not like what is evident in other parts of the countr. And as others have already posted, sometimes there are legit reasons, and sometimes it appears to be a rumur mill by someone with time on their hands.

Again, your point of sportsmanlike conduct is taken. Sportsmanship conduct covers a wide range of things under AKC. If you have a personal issue, take it up with them.

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I've said all that needs to be said....

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n/m

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Best In Show Sarge

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Doris Boyds Bulldog Sarge just went Best in Show so happy I know of nobody that deserves it more as she has given so much to our Breed and of course to Mike and Virgina Hern. A dream comes true for Doris & Dave.

Sarge its a proud day for the Bulldog Love Kim & Burt




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Congrats!!!

by Ryan & Allora

Congrats Doris, Dave, and Sarge! Allora and I are so happy for you!

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Reason for all of us to celebrate...

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We're always saying bulldogs don't get recognized in the group ring quite often enough.

Now we have this big winner and all who show bulldogs should be proud and admire the owners and breeders of this dog. Why now? Lots of you gush over smaller wins by your friends, so where are you all now on such a big win?? Let your sportmanship show and congratulate these winners.

Again, hats off to Doris, Dave, Mike and Virginia. Same goes to the handler Mike Stone, for doing such a great job...

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Marcel....

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Jsut because someone chooses not to post on here does not mean congratulations were not given. Some of us did that at the show, in person, and many others have sent private emails. I know a lot of people do not post so often anymore because of the $h*t it always inevitably seems to stir....

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WHY TO GO

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That is just GREAT. BEST IN SHOW. YES LOL. Thomas Elsa and BULLIES.

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Congrats!

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Way to shine in group, job well done with a beautiful representation of our breed! Keep it up!

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Way to go Dave and Doris! Always nice to hear when a Bulldog can accomplish such a feat!!

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Congrats!

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Your not paranoid if they really are out to get you

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IF you have been "coasting" on legislative actions and assuming "it won't really happen, MY letters and calls aren't important, OR I don't have time or feel
like it etc...."

Well, this could well be the NEAR future of California, Texas, Connecticut or your home town


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The below is exactly why there can be no compromises with Animal Radical groups.

Judy Goldberg
Greylock Poodles

Noose Set To Tighten On
Los Angeles Purebred Dogs

AKC Disqualification Shows Entire Nation The Danger of
Compromise, Apathy Or Agreeing To Biased Task Forces

by MARGO MILDE AND JOHN YATES
American sporting Dog Alliance

http://www.americansportingdogalliance.org

asda@csonline.net

This report is archived at
http://eaglerock814.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=\
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LOS ANGELES, CA - It will be next to impossible to own a sexually intact
registered dog or cat within the City of Los Angeles, if City Council approves a
series of recommendations by the Spay/Neuter Advisory Committee in a March 30,
2009, report. These recommendations have been sent to Los Angeles City Council
and to Mayor Antonio R. Villaraigosa in final form, the American Sporting Dog
Alliance has documented. Action on the recommendations could happen at any time.

It already is illegal in Los Angeles to possess a sexually intact dog that is
registered with the Field Dog Stud Book (FDSB), and the committee's
recommendations would cancel out current exemptions for approved show, field
trial, performance and breeding dogs registered with the American Kennel Club
(AKC), and also rare breed and smaller registries. The recommendations also may
affect dogs registered with the United Kennel Club (UKC), and cats registered
with the three top feline registries. Beginning this year, the ordinance has
required all dogs and cats that did not qualify for an intact exemption to be
spayed or neutered at the medically unsafe age of four months.

Now, however, it is clear that even these few exemptions are intended to be
phased out, if recommendations from the committee are approved by the City
Council. The committee's recommendations also contain a series of "Catch 22's"
that would make it virtually impossible for the owner of an intact dog to
maintain an exemption for competition, field trials and shows, even if the
registry itself maintains its exemption, documents show.

The unfolding situation in Los Angeles gives dramatic and clear proof that the
ultimate goal of all animal rights-inspired legislation is a step toward the
elimination of animal ownership in America. Each law, ordinance and regulation
is merely the first step toward a tightening of the noose in this incremental
approach to making America a nation without dogs, cats and other domesticated
animals. Each step is designed to lead to another, until no more animals are
left.

For dog owners, it means that any compromise with animal rights activists is
illogical, unwise and totally illusory. Dog owners who agree to negotiate,
participate on task forces or committees that are stacked against them,
compromise, cut deals, remain apathetic, or fail to fight hard for their rights
in the political arena, are slitting their own throats. The only alternative is
to fight back courageously against all animal rights legislation, and refuse to
quit, surrender or compromise.

That lesson applies equally to all Americans who own dogs or cats, and has
immediate meaning to Illinois, which has set up a task force to study new dog
laws, and Maine and Santa Barbara, CA, which are now in the process of having
the results rammed down their throats by task forces that were designed to have
strong animal rights biases.

The Los Angeles Committee also provides a clear lesson to dog owners about how
task forces and committees can be taken over by nonresident animal rights
extremists, who now are incorporating these committees into their nationwide
strategy. The American Sporting Dog Alliance first uncovered this strategy in
the City of Dallas, TX, which passed a repressive spay/neuter mandate last year
based on the recommendations of a committee with official status that pointedly
excluded anyone who was not an animal rights activist.

The Los Angeles Committee includes at least one person who does not live in the
city: noted animal rights extremist Judie Mancuso of Laguna Beach, CA. Mancuso
was a major force behind last year's failed effort to enact statewide mandatory
spay/neuter legislation, and is leading efforts for legislation this year.
Mancuso also works on mandatory sterilization issues nationwide, and recently
testified in Chicago, where she claimed that these ordinances do not affect the
availability of purebred dogs. The Los Angeles proposals contradict and
discredit Mancuso's statements in Chicago and elsewhere, and show clearly that
her real goal is to eliminate purebred dogs.

Here are the Los Angeles Spay/Neuter Committee report's highlights pertaining to
owning intact purebred dogs.

Almost all of America's dog and cat registries would be removed from the list of
approved registries, because they do not have official policies to protect the
health and soundness of dogs eligible for registration and used in breeding
programs, as would be required by the new recommendations.

We see this requirement as a "Catch 22" that is impossible to fulfill, because
the science of canine genetics is in its infancy and does not allow many
conditions to be predicted accurately (and thus prevented), and the Los Angeles
ordinance is essentially requiring registries to be liable (including
financially liable) for the results of matings over which they have no real
control. Private breeders of high quality dogs also would object to a distant
registry taking control of their breeding decisions, if for no other reason than
the fact that registry officials would have no first-hand knowledge of the dogs
involved, their progeny or their ancestors.

Dogs registered by the American Kennel Club (AKC), which is the nation's largest
registry, could not be kept sexually intact or bred in Los Angeles if these
recommendations are adopted. This also would apply to dogs registered through
the American Dog Breeders Association (American pit bull terriers), the
Continental Kennel Club, the American Rare Breed Association, the Australian
Shepherd Club of America and the Dog Registry of America, and possibly cats
registered by the three major feline registries.

The status of UKC-registered dogs could not be determined from the report. The
UKC already has an extensive list of breeding policies, but they are essentially
recommendations to breeders and most are not mandatory. Nor is it known if the
UKC would be willing to assume liability for the actions of breeders.

Field Dog Stud Book, which is America's oldest registry and the premiere
registry for pointers and setters bred for hunting and field trials, is not
included in the current list of approved registries and also could not possibly
meet the requirements of the committee report. It is currently illegal to own a
sexually intact FDSB-registered dog, or breed it, in the City of Los Angeles.

To obtain a breeding permit, the report recommends requiring that a dog must be
temperament tested, have Orthopedic Foundation of America certification for hip
dysplasia, meet other unspecified "health requirements," and have earned or be
earning a title in competition through an approved registry (of which there
would be none). We regard all of these as cynical "Catch 22s."

Temperament testing would be done by the animal control agency, which lacks the
expertise to evaluate dogs of most breeds and could not do a fair evaluation in
the chaotic environment of an animal control facility. Thus, many good dogs
would be set up to fail.

OFA hip certification cannot be obtained until a dog is two years old and the
Los Angeles ordinance requires dogs to be spayed at age four months (long before
they would be bred, entered in serious competition or could be certified by
OFA), and animal control personnel do not have the knowledge or experience to
evaluate genetic health problems or the ways to reduce or eliminate them.

The report also recommends that all dogs be entered into a show or competition
at least annually to qualify for an exemption (the current requirement is one
show every two years). However, this fails to account for the reality that many
dogs are kept for evaluation for a year or two before they are entered in
competition or sent to a professional trainer, an injury or illness can hold a
dog out of competition for lengthy periods, and many outstanding champions are
retired from competition early to use for breeding in order to pass on their
outstanding genetics to future generations. These dogs would have to be
sterilized, under the recommendation.

The current ordinance exempts a dog that is being trained for competition, or as
a guide, service or military dog. However, the committee report recommends
eliminating this exemption if the dog's trainer is not an officially licensed
business in the City of Los Angeles, as well as stating that dog trainers should
meet certain unspecified "qualifications" to be licensed.

The dog world is not local. Many serious breeders are themselves highly
competent and qualified trainers, and many send their dogs to trainers who are
located in other parts of the state or nation. These trainers could not qualify
for a Los Angeles business license for the simple reason that they do not live
in the city (and possibly not even in the state), and the breeders could not
qualify for a business license because they are hobbyists who are not in the
business of training dogs for the public.

Moreover, no one in the animal control department is even remotely qualified to
pass judgment on the ability or qualifications of a professional trainer.

It is doubtful if any professional trainers of field trial or hunting dogs live
within the city, as there would not be enough suitable grounds nearby, and
regulations and taxation would be prohibitive in an urban environment.

Requirements to maintain a sexually intact dog also would be tightened
generally, including mandating spay/neuter for a second offense of leash laws or
a second impoundment by animal control, shortening time limits for compliance,
denying permits to dog owners to whom even one warning had been issued, and
raising prices of intact and breeding permits (current permits cost $100 per
animal per year, and allow the holder only one litter per year per each female
animal for which a permit has been obtained).

The Los Angeles Committee report to City Council is contained in a 91-page (pdf
file) report that can be viewed at
http://www.laanimalservices.com/spayneuterlaw/committee/march09_rep.pdf . See
pdf pages 68-through-74. Look for Recommendation Twelve. This report was located
and researched by ASDA advisor and researcher Margo Milde of Glenview, IL.

The current ordinance can be viewed at
http://www.clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2007/07-1212_ord_179615.pdf .

The American Sporting Dog Alliance urges all Los Angeles dog owners to oppose
this report to City Council.

We also ask dog owners everywhere in America to learn from what is happening in
Los Angeles and spurn the idea of task forces, negotiations with animal rights
activists, or agreeing to compromises.

Failing to fight back courageously is the first step in participating in the
destruction of the dogs that you love, and your own freedom and basic rights as
an American.

We also challenge the purebred dog and cat registries themselves, but especially
the American Kennel Club (AKC), the largest purebred dog registry in the United
States, to vigorously oppose the Los Angeles committee's recommendations. We
also urge these registries to make adverse legislation involving any facet of
dog and cat ownership and breeding their utmost priority. We especially ask the
AKC to clearly communicate to its affiliated and member clubs the dangers of
seeking purebred or show exemptions in any proposed legislation involving dog
ownership or breeding, since, as these Los Angeles committee's recommendations
illustrate, such legal exemptions are only a sham, to be all too easily removed
by the Animal Rights zealots who seek the extinction of all purebred breeds of
dogs.

The American Sporting Dog Alliance represents owners, breeders and professionals
who work with breeds of dogs that are used for hunting. We also welcome people
who work with other breeds, as legislative issues affect all of us. We are a
grassroots movement working to protect the rights of dog owners, and to assure
that the traditional relationships between dogs and humans maintains its
rightful place in American society and life. The American Sporting Dog Alliance
also needs your help so that we can continue to work to protect the rights of
dog owners. Your membership, participation and support are truly essential to
the success of our mission. We are funded solely by your donations in order to
maintain strict independence.

Please visit us on the web athttp://www.americansportingdogalliance.org . Our
email is asda@csonline.net .

PLEASE CROSS-POST AND FORWARD THIS REPORT TO YOUR FRIENDS

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Big 5 pointer today in Idaho......

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Our girl DK's Rosanna Dana took a 5 pointer in Idaho this morning, handle by Jay Serion.

Rosanna is owned and bred by Marcel Daignault & Ann Bingaman...

Nice going Jay.......... you the man!!!

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Congrats...How have the rest of the shows gone?

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Any BOB or WD results?
Do you have the results from the other 3 or 4 days?
Congrats again, Brian

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I only have our win...

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Ann did not e-mail me results besides what we won...

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Congrats Marcel....

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-Brian

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Rosanna is out of Ann's first bulldog litter.....

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and I bet she's as proud as a momma peacock as I know I am.

Ann has been the greatest partner in bulldogs and such a truthful / loving person. More than that, she's down to earth and a right friendly person.

BTW: I also gave Ann the Frenchy Bulldog disease.. We co-own four together, one living at her house... Together this past year, we finished our first, Ch Rockydell's Ms Maybeline.

So. if you ever hear Ann mumbling french curse words, her girl Lucy probably got a hold of something important and made it less so... LOL

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Ann just e-mailed me today's results on Rosanna....WOW!!!

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Here's what she reports:

"How about winners, best of winners, and BOS!!!!!!!!! Now we have 14
points---- "....

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Congrats Marcel

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Thats great happy for you and Karen Kim & Burt

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Big congrats Marcel!

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Gotta post some photos of that girl now




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Re: Big 5 pointer today in Idaho......

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Yes so glad for you and ANN. She a good looking Bullie. Is Ann down to earth yet? Thomas

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*** MeET thE GaBiE BaBiEs "B" BuNcH! ***

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Gabie is now the Proud Papa of SiX new kiddos--three BoYs & three GiRLs for a nice balanced set! The family has decided to go with a "B" theme so--at least at this point--the boys are:
"Bullseye" (with a patch over one eye), "Boss" (all white with the classic Gabie "hook" tail) & "Blaze" (the runt of the bunch right now at 8-1/2 oz--but full of spunk & blazin' his trail already!)

...and the gals:
"Beauty" (with an "eyebrow" spot over each eye), "Babe" (with a dark spot at the top of her tail) & "Bailey" (solid white & presently the biggest of the bunch at 13-1/8 oz.)


Here are pix of the pack "fresh from the oven" this morning...



(not totally sure I've got them labeled right as I couldn't see their faces or sexes & three of the pups are solid white--and most are almost identical weights, too!)




"Bullseye" is solid white, except for his eye patch (he's got Grandma Pip's face patch on one side!)











"Beauty" with her trademark "eyebrow" markings...











...already rootin' for some grub!






Pretty little lady "Bailey"...










Somehow in all the process of weighing & checking them out, I failed to get individual pix of Babe, Boss & Blaze...have to catch up on these pups this week-end maybe! Until then, here's some group shots (& I'm guessing on who's who!)


"Babe" getting a tickle!






"Boss" & "Bailey" having some cuddle time!





*** You can expect updates weekly from The Proud Papa--meanwhile keep those VoTeS & ViEWs a'comin' for GaBiE's AMeRiCa'S FuNNiEsT ViDeO! ***

http://abc.go.com/primetime/afv/index?pn=player&itemId=6325790


NOTE: Photos property of SittingBullies.com All rights reserved.




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Woofstock Pics, Saturday

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Congratulations to all the winners this weekend! Very fun show.

Here are some pics from Saturday...



Just Braveheart Bullface Bomber


Benoni Lasiniu Piliakalnis


Devine-A-Bull The Italian Job


Vanity RJ's Fueled for Success


Majestic Valentino


Open dogs


Surf City's Magnanimous


Winners Dog Line-up


Primetime's Life of the Party


Primetime's Every Kiss Begins with Kay


Benoni Under the Tuscan Sun x Toadhall


Bullwrinkle's Sparkle



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Woofstock Pics, Sunday

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Here are some from Sunday...

Bedrocks Adamant About Kramer


Mattingly Porter Han


Silverspoon's Pin-Up Girl


Primetime's Every Kiss Begins with Kay


6-9 mo puppy bitches


Benchmarks Devine-a-Bull Stella


The Ritz' B Boppin Betty of Andorra


Surf City's Bringing SexyBack, Yeah!


Best of Breed Pics


Show-Me Punk Rockabillie Sublime


Ch Bullwrinkle Casanova Bentley


Ch Majestic Tiger Lily






BOB, WB/BOW, BOS


Julie and Shelly Jo in Group



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My apologies to everyone if Allora didn't capture as many pics as usual...she was busy with Alana...aka "Alana Estrada"... lol

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*** BuLLhaMa MaMa is iN dA HOuSE! ***

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It's SuMMeR & the BaTHiNG BuLLeAUtiES are in Da house! So HeRE's CHuBBs in her TRiPLe BiKiNi SPeCiAL...


...the BuLLHaMa MaMa herself!







...and modeling her "PReTTy-iN-PiNk" version for Breast Cancer Awareness








SPLiSH!...






SpLaSh!!!






Da PoOL's EXTRA CoOL with a JeWeL like CHuBBy!!!







Catch ya later, Dudes!





*** And keep helpin' GaBiE make a SPLaSH in HoLLYWoOF by VoTiN & ViEWiN' his Top Rated, Top Viewed video! WhOoHOo...we've just sailed past the 300,000 mark & still flying!!! ***

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PLEASE READ!!

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Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: activists to protect our interests


I found this in the Yahoo Group OR-PETLAW messages.

Written by Cheryl Anderson, Cherden since 1966, AKC Judge #4183, Scappoose, Oregon (I thought, USA)



I'm mounting a campaign here in Oregon to file a class action lawsuit
against the State for these laws as they take away both our Fourth and
Fifth Amendments Rights. I found a non-profit group, Oregonians In
Action, who fight for individual owners' rights, particularly in land
use. I'm also getting one together in our county (Columbia) because of
all the new changes plus their Land Use head, Todd Dugdale, told me I
have to get down below 10 dogs by Jan 1, file for a $960 Type II Home
Occupation permit, and pay $30 per dog per year in order to be able to
keep over 3 dogs now. And I live in unincorporated county. I asked
what if I had more than 3 dogs, he said they could all be confiscated,
and if I did the rest (Type II etc) anything over 9 needs to be put to
sleep. Plus I would be fined $500 per day plus have to pay for all the
confiscated dogs' care at unreasonable fees if this happened. And my
kennel wouldn't pass their new rules anyway as it now requires 5 acres
minimum with a heated & air conditioned building at least 100 feet from
my house and would have to have a separate kitchen/bathing facility in
it, with concrete floors with a center drain with a separate septic
system. This is for over 9 dogs and for a commercial kennel. There is
no place for private breeders under these draconian laws.
Mind you, I've been continually and duly licensed and inspected as a
hobby kennel here at my current address for 20 years now. But there is
no grandfathering allowed now. They have eliminated the hobby license
and only allow commercial kennels, yet HB 2470 virtually eliminates
those. Worse yet, Rep. Brad Witt has solely authored the latest
travesty, HB 2986, which outlaws all line and inbreeding, subjecting
breeders to MORE unwarranted search and seizure permissions, along with
recordkeeping requirements that make the AKC look like grade school. It
hefts huge fines if not in compliance, and can end up with confiscation
of dogs and jail time. Fun, huh? Also note that it is already on the
books that if you refuse to allow any unwarranted search by an animal
control officer, you can be arrested/jailed for up to 7 days for that --
plus have all animals removed and immediately sold.
Hey, when did we move to Nazi Germany? So....if anyone is interested in
joining our group -- first we will petition, then we will sue if no
response -- I'm mounting a class action campaign against the violation
and removal of our Rights. It also includes people with small hobby
businesses as there is no county business license. You now can't do
garage sales more than once per annual quarter, and you can't sell your
chicken eggs or anything else out of your house, even with commercial
zoning. Contact me if you want to join up. Staying under the radar
isn't working anymore. We need to be activists to protect our interests.

The Governor's phone number and email address, btw, is 503-378-4582, fax
is 503-378-3827 and you have to go to the website to send an email.
That's athttp://governor.oregon.gov/Gov/contact_us.shtml The more he
hears from people who oppose it, the less likely he is to sign it. We
need him to be inundated with no's.

Cheryl Anderson

Cherden since 1966

AKC Judge #4183

Scappoose, Oregon (and I thought, USA)



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Thank you to all who entered and made the majors possible for the winners! It was great having breeder judges three of the days, I hope this is something we can continue. Without us supporting each other, we get nowhere

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