em (Login emily007) from IP address 195.153.16.162
I have been surfing the New Scientist website and have come across a facinating topic called 'Taming the Multi-universe'.
This incorporates the idea that atoms can be in the same place at once, therefore creating parallel universes that 'mirror', as it were, our own dimension which will ultimately lead in a different direction to our own.
David Deutsch compares this multi-universe to a quantum computer. The computer is given information, ie an atom, in which the computer processes this information. For the computer to do that, it has to split the information into fragments before piecing it together as a whole to understand the data. This means that different versions of happenings can be possible from one source and that atom can be split to create divergent energies, therefore creating different dimensions from the same atom.
He gives an example in an experiment, where photons, electrons and atoms are fired through two vertical slits at two plates. If left for a long period of time the atoms etc. split evenly onto the two plates. He speculates that this divergence of atoms can create parallel timelines from the splitting of these particles.
Can photons be in the same place at once? And if so, would this prove that multi-dimensions are possible? Has anyone got any theories on this?
The website address is: http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/quantum
This will be a good site to refer to such topics to discuss on the Chronos website.
em
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Parallel Universes,The Nature Of Time And Existance, And Reincarnations
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May 17 2002, 8:09 AM
I definately think photons can occupy more then one space at a time and that it proves the existance of other parallel universes in a tangible enough manner. As science bases everything on proof there is no room for the ever present "tangible intangibles" that which we receive from within, our intuition. Your description of time is pretty much how I've come to preceive it to be. I believe time travel is being done all the time and that multitudes of parallel universes are constantly being created because of it. It is a natural occurance and another factor of existance. Reincarnation is a part of that existance also. I sort of see each person as a book with each page being a single lifetime. The beginning of the page is birth, the end of the page being death. It stands to reason that while existing on pg. 357 you would not remember what the contents of pg.6 is unless it stood out unusually so. This concept is the easiest manner in which to explain how I have been told [from within] how the nature of time and existance really are. My dreams also show me alot about time and time travel. I have never come across ANYONE who has dreams like mine. They are often as vivid as reality and seem to have no limits to them. I time travel all the time and have many different faces other then the one I have now. I dream existances I've had in other dimensions and there aren't words to describe some of them. Being a sensation for example.I fly in many dreams and have alot of control over my dream world. I have no limits to my belief system or my ability to manifest my reality. We all do that. I don't believe I'm from this time period or planet but [of course] I'm here for some reason. I'm only just finding out what that may be but as yet I really don't know. I have never discussed this with more then one person at a time. I'm not really sure if this was the proper curriculum to comment on my beliefs but the "time" is right. I often find that the most farout, wildest concepts on this topic seems to be the ones that I find to be the most perfectly fitting pieces to a puzzle that I've been putting together my entire life [and then some]. I would very much like to get to know or at least hear from any body who has and/or is a time traveller. The time is now and I'm eagerly waiting to hear from you and I'm ready to travel.
Do you know the blue place? Love and Caring to allasone. WEI
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Hi Em' a thank you for posting here as well as a warm welcome to this Network 54 sponcered forum.
Yes a duality in range within the the function of an atom, does offer many issue within the discussional range.
With reference to Albert Einstein and the deeper logic of C oriented cosmologies, these statments do pose certain problems for classical cosmologist?
I must ask you Em, if one were to effect invention of a device which would travel within time.space, how would the port of entry present itself?
Please note data historic files, as offered on the web, Chronos history offered.
However Emily, remember to stay perspective to your area of time concern only, as there is social consiquence with respects to knowing about time travlers?
If there is anything I can ever do or you want to know, post it here and I will attempt to dutifully answer.
LAB>>>>C at a deep set range in null space continum, offers telling of a red shift.Point logic 1.
Recessional C at a deep set intrest in modifed quantum cosmose, does also offer the same strength of pressure, outside being pumped as an enegry photon, from origional source.
So the logic proponents of A and B register the same...is this not true Em'?
If this is so and state as being true as such, then what is the proposed constuction of supposed null space, or modified M, which is null space mass.
Null space mass, is also considered as stringed space.
"No dear' with very deep respect to you, supposed enmpty space, is inhearlty,..NOT, empty.
The foundation's work, (plural), or Oppenheimer, in his paper, "holes" and the primacy paper, based from mathamatical works by De'sitter, Lowel as well as other astronamers, which was the basis for Einstine's relativity work, is a directional guidance foutain.
This work, in the annals of the histroy of physics, is for everyone to use.
Please' let me take you by the hand Em and in our imaginations walk into the study of Albert Einstine.
Before you is his blackboard and on this board, this is among the other clutter that had composed Einstin's life.
His violin, papers, letters to important people as well as world upon worlds of well based theories.
On his chalk-board in front of you is shown a drawing with the line vertisey A, decendant to b.
From the inferior b, there are two angular tangents of C and D and these elements are angled downward and foward.
Standing back, we know these coordinates to be Cartesian via their natures.
Now my dear, take the chalk within you hand, go to the board and in backof line segments Cb and bE scketch in two backward opposing dotted lines.
We shall name these hidden segments as HIDDEN ELEMENTS BD and BF.
Question to Em, what and how are the nature of these segments?
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May 20 2002, 6:13 AM
Hello Barkie,
I'd like to thank you for that warm hearted welcome, and for explaining this atomic discussion in such a vivid and metaphoric way. It has made me ponder on many ideas that I will now express to you.
'If we could travel within time/space, how would the port of entry present itself?'
Well, to travel forward or backward in time, atoms of light would have to be accelerated to faster than it's natural speed for us to enter a different part of our timeline. We would have to travel in a device that would move alongside these atoms at the same speed. Therefore, just like the Deutsch experiment, if we wanted to travel into divergent timelines, these light atoms would have to be split and fired at various portals, like the photons fired at the vertical slits in the experiment, so to give us many different timelines to enter.
However, the split atoms A and B would not register the same from the original photon labelled M, as when the atoms split and travel into different directions they will experience different occurences along the way. For instance, photon A would split, for example, 45 degrees from photon B, but they would not travel in exactly the same way to each other. For instance, they would interact with different air molecules that would create a slightly different reaction to each individual photon ie the movement/speed of the atom, therefore creating slightly different timeline events from the other.
The excellent description of timelines A, B ,C and D and the hidden elements that can be created from these divergences is very interesting. This example shows how our creation of photon separation can be connected to the alteration of the past.
Say, X is the point at which we begin our timeline divergence, and in which timelines A,B,C and D are created from. If we connect these divergences and create a point in the past from them, we have altered time previously, as in your example of BF and BD being created.
This is very interesting, as we usually only think that if we alter the past we change our future. This shows that the alteration of time at any point of the timeline has an effect on the past and future.
Now we get to the question of 'What and how are the nature of these segments?'
Well, here it can get complicated (but that's time travel for you!).
If I can give my example here of point X, in which 4 time lines span out from it, being labelled A,B,C and D. If we combine A and B to create the hidden segment 'AB' and combine C and D to create 'CD', we have made two different pasts from splitting light into four different timelines. However, if we then travel down timeline 'AB' we will not reach the exact point X, and the same with line 'CD', as random forces will be at work in each timeline and different occurences will not create the exact point X that was there when divergences A,B,C and D were created. Therefore the timeline AB will not travel down it's creator lines A or B, but create another future of it's own.
Well, Barkie, I hope that makes some sense. Now I will ask you and everyone else a question.
If we can split atoms and create divergent timelines will it ever be possible to cross these lines and what would be the consequences?
em
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May 22 2002, 12:31 AM
No consiquence, you may enter into that alternate time line.
You for the most part do not alter that time line, if you don't now react with the principles within it?
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Hi everyone,
I won't be able to speak to you for a while as I am off to Planet Stasiac for a relaxing time!(joke!)
Bye Altanaale and Creedo, even though you can be kind of looney!
Bye Barkie, see ya soon.
Bye Nick, take good care of yourself!
Big hugs and kisses to Chronos for putting up with me, and I hope I come back to some excellent time travel theories to blow my mind once more.
Peace and love...
em
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Two scientists wanted to find out whether light photons were particles or waves (a long standing debate). Using their special screen device, they discovered, simply, that whatever they looked for or expected, was found. This was the first clue that a multi-universe existed where your choices were accomodated for you (I prefer the term "many worlds").
Listen, you travel your life alone with a stage, if you will, set for you. The people around you are also moving through their own universe. This is kind of scary and takes some thinking. For example, if you murder someone, WHO exactly is dying?? No, a situation is only set up for you. You get punished. Chances are, the person you "murdered" is away already in another universe, having escaped through their own choices, safely living their life.
This is an area well worth your research.
Dr. Kurt Smeby
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yeah but...
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July 22 2002, 10:57 PM
Asuming that for every choice which one makes causes the universe to "branch" thus making a universe in which each possible decision is carried out, This must be true for even the most subtle of choices. For example, say you're playing chess and make a move, does this cause the universe to branch off in a number of directions equivalent to the amount of possible moves you can make?
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i give an A for science & an F for practicality, to change a path is moronic & might b good war devices like guns & crack in the enemies hands, if i hear another queer call me 'bro', i might do his sister & puk on his head, & please private property has a meaning.
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