The odd bounce of a ping-pong ball notwithstanding, here is how The Peerless sees the race . . .
March 12:
1. Pittsburgh: 44 points, 11 games remaining, last 10 = 6-3-1-0
Their schedule is somewhat forgiving . . . they have the Flyers and Devils coming up, but since the Penguins are "hot" (that being a relative term in this company), either of these games could be wins (and by virtue, "losses") for the black and gold. They get Buffalo in a back to back, and since the Sabres still entertain hpes of nabbing an 8-spot, these could spell doom (joy!) for the Penguins.
I think the Pens have ten points left in them for 54 points.
2. Chicago: 51 points, 13 games remaining, 2-5-2-1
The real sleeper here, their schedule is potentially brutal . . . Vancouver, Colorado, Dallas twice, St. Louis twice, and Nashville twice . . . all playoff teams or teams with hope. It could be close, but Chicago has barely enough left in it to fall short of Pittsburgh . . .
I’ll go with 57 points.
3. Columbus: 52 points, 12 games remaining, 3-7-0-0
And coming hard on the outside, the Blue Jackets. They start a five game road trip on Saturday – STL, MIN, EDM, CAL, VAN. That’s not a good thing. They finish they year: NSH, BUF, DET, COL, DET. That’s not a good thing, either. On top of this, they’re on a four-game losing streak. That’s the trifecta. But, I think they’ll squeeze out six points . . .
I’ll settle on 58 points.
4. Washington: 52 points, 12 games remaining, 2-7-1-0
Washington’s chances are hampered by having to play only three playoff teams in their last 12 – Tampa Bay, the Islanders, and Boston. All are on the road. However, the Caps have no offense to speak of, which is balanced by their inability to do much to stop the offense of others. It could come down to the three games the Caps have remaining with Pittsburgh (1H, 2A). If the Penguins sweep, the Caps odds improve dramatically. But, the Caps schedule is just too forgiving to have a serious shot at the title . . .
59 points
5. Phoenix: 61 points, 12 games remaining, 0-6-2-2
They could go oh-fer in their last 12 games and fall short. They won’t, but not for lack of trying . . . seven of their last 12 are against playoff teams. Only two games against Chicago offer them much hope at being a favorite to win any game. No, their hope lies in the bounce of a ping-pong ball.
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Play hard, shake hands, drink beer.
"LA needs two hockey teams like Switzerland needs two navies" -- Norman Chad (from "My 10-Point Plan to Save Gary Bettman from Himself")
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 15 2004, 12:19 PM
No, but they're ahead of us in one respect....they tore their team apart sooner, so this group has had more time to read each other and actually start doing some of that improving you hope for when you rebuild. We both suck, but the Pens have already been sucking longer, so they're still ahead of us. Damn Pens!
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 15 2004, 12:29 PM
that's what i'm thinking. we finish 29th, win the lottery, then say "sure, you can have the number one pick for your number one, your top prospect and your second rounder and a guaranteed win next time we meet you in the first round of the playoffs."
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 15 2004, 2:31 PM
21-41-8-2 Olaf Kolzig and Brendan Witt must be double-checking to make sure they're not in Portland. Key Injuries: D Jason Doig (wrist).
17-44-7-4 Now that Washington has cleaned house, there is now a legitimate battle for the basement. A five-game unbeaten streak has the Pens are right on the Caps' heels. Key Injuries: C Mario Lemieux (hip), LW Ramzi Abid (knee), D Michael Rozsival (knee).
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Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 16 2004, 11:19 AM
The Pens tanked about 20 games there in Jan-Feb and then started to pick up their play again in March, not counting on the Caps firesale. They may have to go back into their "worst team in the NHL" mode.
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Would someone PLEASE shoot the Caps and put them out of their misery.
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 16 2004, 3:51 PM
LOL! Good one.
"The Capitals have gotten into legitimate contention for Ovechkin the old-fashioned way: By tanking. They started the season with a plethora of high-priced, lazy superstars, which gave them a good base of failure to build from. Then they traded all of them, creating an atmosphere of desolation and confusion that has enabled the Capitals to take the next step down. Now that's good management."
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March 16 2004, 6:03 PM
Anyone remember Martin Brochu (Gesundheit)? No? Well the former Caps was called up straight from the ECHL to play backup for the Pens. If things get tight in the standings, expect him to get a few starts in there.
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 20 2004, 9:11 AM
March 20:
1. Columbus: 52 points, 8 games remaining, last 10 games = 2-8-0-0
Their remaining schedule: @VAN, MIN, ANA, @NSH, @BUF, DET, COL, @DET
That’s a rough schedule . . . rough enough that they will win this sweepstakes.
March 12 prediction: 58 points. Updated prediction: 55 points
2. Pittsburgh: 49 points, 7 games remaining, 6-2-2-0
Their remaining schedule is: NYR, @NYR, @BUF, BUF, @WSH, @ATL, WSH
The Penguins are the hottest of the group, mainly owing to their cold cuts having played together a bit longer than the cold cuts on the other teams in the running. They are playing themselves out of the 30th spot. Having the woeful Rangers twice and the pitiful Caps twice could kill whatever hope they had to finish last.
March 12 prediction: 54 points. Updated prediction: 56 points
3. Washington: 54 points, 8 games remaining, 2-8-0-0
Well, they beat the Rangers, but who doesn’t? They are doing the darndest to squeeze into 30th with such inspired personnel moves as recalling Podkonicky, Tvrdon, and now, Matt Yeats (a non-roster, minor league free agent signing) to back up Olaf Kolzig. It says here that the Caps have four points left in them.
March 12 prediction: 59 points Updated prediction: 58 points
If Phoenix wasn’t playing so poorly, there wouldn’t be a point you’d think the Blackhawks could get out of this schedule. They’ll get four by accident.
March 12 prediction: 57 points. Updated prediction: 59 points
5. NY Rangers: 64 points, 8 games remaining, 2-6-0-2
A new entry, closing with a rush. If they make it, then the conspiracy element will be out in force making the claim that it’s over and done, the Rangers will win the ping-pong ball contest for Ovechkin. Unfortunately, they are playing just poorly enough and have enough of a scheduling advantage to overtake Phoenix for 5th in this race.
Prediction: 67 points
6. Phoenix: 63 points, 8 games remaining, 0-6-2-2
Their remaining schedule: @CHI, @MIN, CAL, SJS, @EDM, @VAN, @CAL, CHI
Hey, they’re trying . . . winless in 14 straight games. But they’re starting too far behind the leaders to make any headway here. It will be all they can do to hold off the Rangers to keep their shot at the number one pick.
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 20 2004, 9:35 AM
Well, I think... we should really try to lose all of our remaining games.
I know that TAK wants a defenseman, but actually, like I said in a thread a week ago or so, our defense already has 3 or 4 young defensemen to assimilate next year (Eminger, Boumedienne and Morrisonn, who already have some NHL experience, plus Wellar... or even Oduya), while we still need snipers for our top two lines. We don't have a super-forward like Ovechkin and Crosby in our system. We need a leader.
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 20 2004, 10:50 AM
Well, there will probably be a lot of gaming the draft . . . do the Caps keep the pick if it's the number one, do they trade it for multiple picks down the list, what do they do if they finish 2-5 . . .
For me, this is real simple. If the Caps get the number one pick, they hit their knees and thank the God they pray to, then select Ovechkin. Any calls to the Caps to inquire about that pick should be met with a resounding NO! If a potential fanchise player is available when you pick, you pick him. I don't see another option here.
Now, if the Caps don't get that number one, it gets more interesting, because of where the player they then want might be available, and whether any of the teams picking ahead of them might take him.
At the Central Scouting mid-term rankings, Cam Barker is the top rated NA defenseman (5th among skaters), but not substantially higher ranked than Mike Green (8th) or Jeff Schultz (11th). Based on rankings, it doesn't look like a banner year for NA defensemen. Sami Lepisto is the top ranked European defenseman (4th among skaters), but he's smallish at 6', 176. Ladislav Smid, Johan Fransson, and Andrej Meszaros are all defensemen ranked among the top ten European skaters.
Obviously, I don't get to see these guys play, but based on rankings, one wonders if there is a significant difference among the seven guys mentioned. It doesn't seem as if there is a Bouwmeester or a Pitkanen among the group.
That raises the question . . . do the Caps trade down, giving a team a chance at a Malkin or Olesz at forward for multiple picks, and still get a good defenseman in the first round (assuming that part of the return is a somewhat lower pick in the first round)?
There is a real wild card her that involves the drafting bias of the Caps. The top two NA skaters are forwards out of the WHL (Kyle Chipchura and Andrew Ladd). Of the 12 forwards selected in the top-100 picks in the McPhee era, all but three (Semin, Stephens, and Werner) have been from or otherwise played in the WHL (Sivek played there after he was drafted).
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Play hard, shake hands, drink beer.
"LA needs two hockey teams like Switzerland needs two navies" -- Norman Chad (from "My 10-Point Plan to Save Gary Bettman from Himself")
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 20 2004, 11:08 AM
With the #1 choice, I would pick Ovechkin. But he's a LW, so we wouldn't be able to play our Russians on the same line, unless one of them moves to the other wing.
What happened to Nepriayev, by the way? He'll probably play in North America next year, but he won't end up on the top line, anyway. Zubrus is "almost" a Russian, anyway (just like traitor Kasparaitis). We'd have to play Semin and Ovechkin on different lines (hehe, we're allowed to dream, I think).
Ovechkin Zubrus Aulin Semin Klepis/Fleischmann Pettinger/Fehr Battaglia Halpern Willsie Sutherby Gordon Peat
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March 20 2004, 11:16 AM
agreed completely on the dman situation. it seems rare that a team drafts a dman who is immediately ready to contribute, or who even EVER contributes to the team what drafted him. does anyone realistically think our defense in three years would be a bunch of kids we drafted? i'd rather take a shot at a potential game breaker forward who will put butts in the seats (look at the semin hype, especially compared to what we heard about eminger when he was up) than a steady defenseman who might be ready to go in 3 years, about the time he's ready to get greedy about money anyway. if there was a pitkanen/bouwmeester player out there, do what you can to get him. i've not heard that kind of buzz about barker, so i can't imagine doing anything dramatic to land him.
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 20 2004, 11:47 AM
that's an interesting point, pgreene, which gets me to thinking about the Caps' best defensemen ever. For those whose best (or maybe some of their better) years were here, they were brought in from someplace else . . .
Langway (MTL) Johansson (BUF) Tinordi (DAL) Murphy (LAK)
Those drafted by the Caps had (or might still yet have) some of their best days somewhere else:
Stevens (NJD) Hatcher (DAL, PIT) Gonchar (BOS)
Examples might be found for other positions, but for defensemen, it seems true.
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Play hard, shake hands, drink beer.
"LA needs two hockey teams like Switzerland needs two navies" -- Norman Chad (from "My 10-Point Plan to Save Gary Bettman from Himself")
I listened the the WFAN feed (and all the ugly details....the wind was just right).Were my ears deceiving me or were theboobirds back, 3 years strong?If true, they were louder than the MCI (not a bust,just an observation)!
7/11/01-1/23/03. Caps Hockey.....ain't worth shit. If you're very good,you go to Heaven.If you're very bad,you go to the Rangers.
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Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 22 2004, 1:51 PM
I'm going to be a bit ticked if we end up outside the third position in the draft. So let's say that Ovechkin is taken by Pittsburgh. Then I'm led to believe that the Caps next-best would be this Cam Barker kid. But if you look at Columbus' needs, they need a stud D-prospect as much as we do. We're both teams stacked with a lot of prospects at forward but not so much on D. So then Columbus takes Barker and we're left with... ?? If this happens, I definitely vote that the Caps trade to draft later.
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 22 2004, 3:45 PM
While Barker is the best defenseman in this year's crop, I've read reports that he'd only be the third or fourth best of last season, not breaking the top ten. And he's not known for his defensive prowess.
Take the best prospect you can. You can always make a trade later.
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 24 2004, 12:22 PM
i thought that winning the draft lottery only means moving up two or three spots from where the team finished the regular season? And I dont think the rags can finish low enough
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March 24 2004, 5:59 PM
It's 4 spots, js, thus the dread of the Rangers finishing 5th- they would move to 1st (if they won it), and 1-4 would drop to 2-5 (you can only get bumped one spot).
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March 24 2004, 10:05 PM
(just to keep it all in one thread)
so...what happens if we get the first pick, draft ovechkin, then negotiations between the league break down and ovechkin can't/won't come over. do we get any sort of compensation?
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 25 2004, 3:27 PM
Hmmm. It looks good--I suppose--but do we really want the first pick? I know Ovechkin is supposed to be the next big thing, but teams in these parts don't do too well with high draft picks. I can't think of many high first rounders that have been taken for a Washington team that amounted to anything near their pre-draft hype.
Perhaps I'm pessimistic, but I don't know that I'd want it. If I had it, I might trade down to get a few extra picks to better my odds.
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 25 2004, 4:05 PM
The problem with this year's draft, is that there's Ovechkin... and the others. If we don't get Ovechkin, then drafting in 2nd or 5th position is practically the same thing.
I would take Ovechkin. We're a new team. What we did in the past has no importance, now. We're following a brand new direction: we're building a team with very talented kids full of promise. Lazy veterans didn't make us better, and we were not rich enough for that Rangers-like strategy, anyway (Ted admitted that George needed ten more millions to build a good team). The kids will like this new team because they will be given a full-time NHL job. They would play in the AHL with most teams... not with us. Aulin, if healthy, will get top-line minutes all season. If we draft Ovechkin and there's a season (and if there's no problem with the Russians), he makes his NHL debut in October. Our kids will grow together and become a very united team.
In soccer, Nantes and Auxerre built teams from zero with kids, and they won a championship after three or four years in the top league. We will only have to add a few veterans, good ones, not stars, with a reasonable salary (see Atlanta's McEachern and Savard, who earn $2M), and that should work.
This message has been edited by Mehdi_Caps on Mar 25, 2004 4:05 PM
Re: The Race for Ovechkin . . . Handicapping the Field
March 27 2004, 9:58 AM
March 27:
1. Washington: 55 points, 5 games remaining, 2-7-1-0
Remaining schedule: @TBL, PIT, @BOS, NYR, @PIT
It’s probably down to Pittsburgh and Washington for the 30th spot.Once more, into the breach these two old rivals find themselves.Will Pittsburgh disappoint Caps fans yet another time, this time by losing either of the remaining two games between them?The March 30 game is the biggest game of the year for these two.Loser becomes the clear favorite to finish with that 48 percent chance of the top pick.The Caps are at the point where they are having a hard time competing against air.They’re closing in on the magic 50 players used mark (prediction, Mel Anglestad will be number 50).They’ve used five goalies this year, which conjures the image of all five on the ice at the same time as skaters . . . Kolzig, Ouellet, Stana, Charpentier, and Yeats . . . and Jason Doig in goal.The Peerless needs to give up those 2 am pepperoni pizzas.
March 12 prediction: 59 points
March 20 prediction: 58 points
Updated prediction: 56 points
2. Pittsburgh: 53 points, 4 games remaining, last 10 = 7‑2-1-0
Their remaining schedule is: BUF, @WSH, @ATL, WSH
The Penguins remain the hottest of the group, in a manner of speaking, which does not bode well for the black and gold.Buffalo remains a desperate team with a sliver of a chance at the playoffs, so they will not take Pittsburgh lightly.The other three are very much winnable.They’ll get half the points a