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All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 3 2004 at 11:07 PM

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Czechs rip Canada: Team USA next

Milan Kraft of the Pittsburgh Penguins celebrates after scoring against Team Canada.
By Alan Adams | NHL.com columnist

PRAGUE - Peter Laviolette is getting his wish.

Walking into the Sazka Arena Monday night for the World Hockey Championship game between Canada and the Czech Republic, Laviolette mentioned he thought it would be best if the United States faced the Czechs when the medal round starts Wednesday.

"It's their rink, their fans and you might as well play them off the bat," said Laviolette, head coach of the United States. "We worked hard to get to this point and we might as well enjoy it."

The Czechs then went out and whipped Canada 6-2 to clinch first place in the pool of four teams playing here in the Czech capital and their next opponent is the United States.

The Americans came to the Czech Republic wanting to a) avoid going to the relegation round for a second-straight year and b) clinch an invitation to the 2006 Winter Olympics in Italy.

It's mission accomplished on those fronts and now the Americans are thinking of winning a medal here at the '04 Worlds. A win over the favored Czechs would be an upset and make the Americans the team to beat.

"We've played well," said Laviolette. "The guys are in a good mood and I like what we've done."

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There was only one medal round matchup not resolved by the end of play Monday and that will be sorted out Tuesday when Germany plays Switzerland in the final qualifying game that means anything.

The Czechs are first and Canada is second in E Group. Latvia finished third and will move on, while Germany is fourth with three points and Switzerland follows with a pair of points.

In the pool being played in Ostrava, Slovakia clinched top spot thanks to a 0-0 draw with Sweden and won on goal differential. Sweden finished second. Finland was third and the United States fourth.

When the medal round begins Wednesday, it's the Czechs vs. the United States and Sweden vs. Latvia. On Thursday, Slovakia plays the winner of Germany-Switzerland and Canada plays Finland.

The Americans are used to having a tough opponent. The Ostrava qualifying group features Finland, Sweden, Russia and Slovakia, while the Czechs and Canadians were the class of the group here in the Czech capital.

The Americans play Denmark tonight and the Americans won't take the Danes lightly. The Danes beat the Americans a year ago.

"Different team," says Laviolette, comparing last year to this year.

In Tuesday's games, Russia lost 4-0 to Finland and the Russians will finish out of the medal round.

"It's always tough to lose, whether it's in the NHL or here," said Russian forward Ilya Kovalchuk of the Atlanta Thrashers. "We tried, but it just didn't work out. You always try to represent your country with pride and, at the same time, try to win. It's difficult when you can't do both."

In typical fashion, Russian coach Viktor Tikhonov refused to shoulder any blame.

"First of all, it's the mistakes of the players [that led to us being eliminated]. Second, the lack of time (to prepare)," he said.

The Czech-Canada game marked the first time they each played a tough opponent and there is no love lost between these teams. It was a hard-hitting affair that featured a wild melee at the end of the second period.

The 18,000 fans at the Sazka Arena were singing before the game and the Czechs took to the ice supported by a deafening roar that is usually reserved for Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals. It was so loud that Canadian head coach Mike Babcock had to tap his players on the shoulders to get their attention.

The Czechs had the game well in hand when tempers and frustrations surfaced late in the second period. The period ended with an all-out melee featuring Jaromir Jagr and Dany Heatley, and 14 minutes in minor penalties were called.

The Czechs were the better team by a country mile.

"The bottom line is today we leave the rink with some humble pie, no doubt about it," said Babcock. "But if we do not have the emotions under control now, we know what happens. We had a real good message and we can't play like that."

Former Edmonton Oiler Josef Beranek scored twice, while Milan Kraft of the Pittsburgh Penguins, Vaclav Prospal of the Mighty Ducks, Martin Rucinsky of the Vancouver Canucks and former NHLer Jiri Dopita also scored.

Tomas Vokoun of the Nashville Predators was solid in net.



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tak
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Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 3 2004, 11:10 PM 

A melee in Europe means two players sneered at each other !

 
 


(Login mistoffelleese)
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Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 1:01 AM 

I read in the Prague paper that all 10 players on the ice were involved in this melee. Guess Jagr was hitting everyone with his purse

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(Login mattwitting)

Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 1:48 AM 

An all-out melee resulted in 14 minutes of minor penalties?

No, that's a half-assed hissy fit. An all-out melee results in at least 15 mins in penalties to at least two individuals and at least 40 minutes total.

 
 


(Login Cilla37)

Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 8:05 AM 

Lol @ Misto!

 
 

pgreene
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Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 9:51 AM 

der bwah-ha has for sparks. that's exactly what i thought. 14 minutes in minors? a brawl is the 200+ pims we wrack up over here. 14 minutes? one player gets more than that in a true melee.

 
 

(Login theruffian)

Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 11:05 AM 

I just cannot picture Jagr in any type of a physical confrontation, purse or not.

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Willow
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He's got physical before....

May 4 2004, 12:07 PM 

...just not often because he get called  for it in the NHL,and on the Caps it's not allowed.

As far as the "purse" comment,didn't that honor go to a current Cap?



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Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 1:31 PM 

Sincerely, I remember when Jagr pushed Kasparaitis in the Olympics. It was like, "Don't push me!", "You, don't push me!", etc, and Kasparaitis gave up. There are guys who never fight because they don't need to. Kasparaitis knows that Jagr has muscles.

I was friends with the bartender of the French Cultural Center in Marrakech when I worked there, and he amazed me. When someone seemed to look for some trouble, he gently locked his cash register and came near the guy with a smile. The guy understood that it was better for his own good to calm down, and my friend came back behind his bar. He never fought in his life, I think. Now, go and talk to him about his purse, and he may make an exception, lol.


 
 

fjc33
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Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 1:42 PM 

That was one of the characteristics of Rod Langway when he played for Washington.  He'd never get into a fight on the ice . . . he was widely known as someone not to be trifled with.  And, as captain, he was not above getting into teammates' faces when they weren't pulling their share of the load, or so the legend goes.

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Play hard, shake hands, drink beer.

"LA needs two hockey teams like Switzerland needs two navies" -- Norman Chad (from "My 10-Point Plan to Save Gary Bettman from Himself")

"Playoff hockey is the best two months in team sports . . . period."

-- Mitch Albom

 
 


(Login BurghCapsFan)

Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 3:13 PM 

If I was 6-2, 235lbs or whatever Jaromir is, I'd be doing some headhunting myself. Which is really why guys like Kevin Hatcher used to tick me off - all that size wasted on a guy who played as soft as Phil Housley at times.

 
 

Chris
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Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 3:45 PM 

And then you have someone like his brother Derian, at 6'5", 235lbs, throwing his weight around like no-ones business, usually headhunting people like Jeremy Roenick and Jerome Iginla, trying to end their career.

I like D. Hatcher, but that hit last night on Lombardi was scary



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fjc33
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Re: All-Out Melee Featuring WHO?

May 4 2004, 6:00 PM 

and once upon a time, Kevin Hatcher spent time at the Kronk Gym in Detroit to polish his pugilistic skills.  The gym's most famous alumnus was probably Thomas Hearns, a former world champeen.  Sometimes, it takes . . . sometimes, it don't.

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Play hard, shake hands, drink beer.

"LA needs two hockey teams like Switzerland needs two navies" -- Norman Chad (from "My 10-Point Plan to Save Gary Bettman from Himself")

"Playoff hockey is the best two months in team sports . . . period."

-- Mitch Albom

 
 
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