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Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 22 2004 at 11:25 PM
TheJagRmatic  (Login TheJagRmatic)

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I just watched the Hockey Insider on TSN, with Bob Macknezie, and he said GMGM is fielding an offer from Florida that would send our #1 south in exchange for...get this:

Jay Bouwmeester
Stephen Weiss
Their #7 pick

I like the sounds of that.. Take Mackenzie for what it's worth...but he seemed to think it was real.

 
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tak
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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 22 2004, 11:37 PM 

Bouwmeester
7th pick
and Horton
Then I am listening .

 
 
TheJagRmatic
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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 23 2004, 12:02 AM 

I'm just really worried that GMGM is going to blow this draft. The talk about Ovechkin's entourage is also giving me visions of Yashin and his gravytraining family.

Weiss & Horton are interchangable in my opinion. They're both good players with bright futures. I'd take either one of them.

As for Bouwie, an Alberta bull. You can never have enough of them.

They could also trade the 7 to Toronto for cast offs.


    
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tak
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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 23 2004, 12:08 AM 

My draft day predict.
The first belongs to ........The Caps .
AO is then picked.
There will not be a trade for the first pick.
The Caps picks after .......you never know.
With the new CBA/Salary Cap coming up , some teams may be willing to dump emerging stars for picks(saving money).
Caps may make out like bandits in this draft.

 
 

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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 23 2004, 8:01 AM 

The Jagr Experience (sounds like a Ludlum novel, doesn't it?) shouldn't cloud one's vision.  True, the Caps need to get to being a grittier, harder to play, lunch pail kind of team, but teams that win do have a dominant force.  Tampa Bay has Martin St. Louis and Vincent Lecavalier.  Calgary, the epitome of lunch pail hockey this year, has Jarome Iginla.  The teams they beat to get to the finals lacked the dominant go-to guy (although Primeau filled that role to a degree with the Flyers).

There is an old adage in sports that the team getting the best player wins a trade.  It's not always true, but I think it is most of the time.  What is to be gained in giving up a once-in-20-years player (literally, since a lot of folks think he's the best since Lemieux in 1984 coming out of amateur) for a couple of high-end, but perhaps not (to be charitable) franchise prospects?

Why is this pick so bloody difficult?  Buyer's remorse before you buy?



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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 23 2004, 9:18 AM 

Agree with fjc. Bouwmeester won't make us a winning team. Ovechkin will. This team will be Ovechkin's team, period. He'll be the #1 star here, for years!

Caps = Ovechkin
Ovechkin = Caps


 
 


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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 23 2004, 3:56 PM 

In these trades, I would at least start with the team's current first and a first next year. For teams like Chicago and Florida, it is another shot at Crosby.

Without that, I think they can't part with what could be a cornerstone type player.

Sutherby could hammer Weiss in practice though for that come from behind crosscheck Weiss gave him two years ago. A hit FLA fans mistook for toughness. Toughness is not hiting from behind.


 
 
Kerrick
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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 23 2004, 6:57 PM 

Unless something absolutely unbelievable comes out of the blue, take AO. Take the kid. If the Caps can finally get over their inability to consistently develop internally with this new group of kids that will be part of the team next time they play, he is the prize. (at least as they're talking him up).


 
 

fjc33
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This Will Scare the Crap Out of You

June 24 2004, 6:40 AM 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/hockey/panthers/sfl-panther24jun24,0,3166799.story?coll=sfla-sports-panthers

"Earlier this week, McPhee called Keenan and offered the No. 1 pick for defenseman Jay Bouwmeester and the No. 7 pick, according to a league source. Keenan quickly declined."

Starting in 1995, the #7 picks have been:

1995: Shane Doan
1996: Erik Rasmussen
1997: Paul Mara
1998: Manny Malhotra
1999: Kris Beech . . . this is the part that will scare the crap out of you . . . McPhee's already been there, done that
2000: Lars Jonsson
2001: Mike Komisarek
2002: Joffrey Lopul
2003: Ryan Suter

Bouwmeester and any of these guys for Ovechkin?  Mommy, please . . . make it stop!





    
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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 24 2004, 7:47 AM 

Just the fact that so many teams are scrambling to get him should tell us something...

 
 

fjc33
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Re: Florida trade rumour: Bouwmeester & Co. for our #1

June 24 2004, 7:50 AM 

To me, the only way you could explain this deal is that the Caps are scared off Ovechkin because of uncertainty over how much money it might take to pry him out of Russia.  And, if that's the case, then this franchise is toast.  Sell the team, contract it, do what you will, but don't turn it into the Blackhawks and the parsimonious Bill Wirtz . . . just look at their record over the past three decades.

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