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Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers (L 1-8)

October 8 2005 at 6:58 PM

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 6:59 PM 

From the caps.com pre-game for tonight:

Washington right wing Petr Sykora, who was shaken up midway through the second period on Friday and did not return, skated Saturday morning and is expected to be in the lineup against Atlanta. Also, Ben Clymer, the defenseman-turned-winger who skated several shifts as a defenseman in Friday night’s game, was said to be spending a lot of time skating backwards in Saturday’s pregame skate.

If the Caps were to go with Clymer in their defensive rotation on Saturday, Matt Pettinger could find himself back in the Washington lineup. Pettinger – along with right wing Stephen Peat and defenseman Nolan Yonkman – was a healthy scratch on Friday.


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:01 PM 

Yes, I also think that Pettinger could play. But if Clymer plays as a defenseman, Biron is scratched and Yonkman too.

Let's see the rosters...


 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:03 PM 

Won't be on the roster tonight, I don't think, but Kovalchuk has signed a long-term deal- it's up on NHL.com.


    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:03 PM 

Sykora and Muir scratched. Pettinger and Yonkman in.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:05 PM 

Morrisonn out and Peat in, too.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:08 PM 

Does that mean Clymer plays as a d-man?

Tomppa

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:10 PM 

Same team for the Thrashers. Possible lineups:

WASHINGTON Capitals

Ovechkin Zubrus Halpern
Friesen Cassels Willsie
Pettinger Gordon Clark
Bradley Sutherby Peat

Witt Heward
Eminger Clymer
Biron Yonkmann

Kolzig
(Johnson)

***

ATLANTA Thrashers

Vigier Savard Bondra
Kozlov Holik Hossa
Aubin Stefan Mellanby
Boulton Larsen Petrovicky

Havelid Modry
de Vries Exelby
Sutton Coburn

Dunham
(Garnett)



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:11 PM 

Yes, Tommpa. Kolzig in net, actually, against Dunham again.

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:12 PM 

Morrisonn out

See? Everyone's been saying Biron, but I think it's more Morrisonn that's the laggard right now (and I know he's a young guy, and I want him to do well).

Peat in? I'm catching up to fjc in the prognosticating department


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:14 PM 

Oddly enough, we start with: Bradley-Sutherby-Peat and Witt-Heward.

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:18 PM 

Not odd at all- (and the Caps to the PP already! ).... you do that because the home team gets last change- if they put their best line out, then the Caps' 4th line stays on the ice and wears them down. If they match up against that line to start the game, you put ZOH out as soon as you can, with the Thrash' weaker line on the ice.

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:20 PM 

Thrash kill, only 1 SOG on the PP for the Caps (Pettinger).

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:24 PM 

Yonkman to the box.....

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:26 PM 

Peter F. Bondra scores on the PP! Same old story.

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:27 PM 

Yeah- another hard shot from the 1 foot line.....

and the Thrash go right back on the PP.

TV timeout.


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:29 PM 

"Not odd at all- (and the Caps to the PP already! ).... you do that because the home team gets last change- if they put their best line out, then the Caps' 4th line stays on the ice and wears them down. If they match up against that line to start the game, you put ZOH out as soon as you can, with the Thrash' weaker line on the ice."

Interesting.

Our top line ended up playing against Bondra's line and their best d-pairing, though.


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:32 PM 

The possible lineups above are correct, by the way.

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:32 PM 

Caps kill off the second penalty.

The goal, Joe B. said it was a bad clear by Heward that let Atlanta keep the puck in the zone. Kolzig's under fire, again- just imagine this team with Kovalchuk....

Our top line ended up playing against Bondra's line and their best d-pairing, though.

Chess on ice.



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:38 PM 

Atlanta kills for the second time, and then the Peat line draws a penalty on Holik- Caps to the PP again! Third time's the charm..... I hope.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:40 PM 

"just imagine this team with Kovalchuk"

No, thanks.  And with Lehtonen in goal! I believe we'll face them four more times.

[PS: Sorry, Roger, I had edited your post instead of replying, LOL! I found the first version of your post by clicking like a mad man on the back arrow! It's now fixed.]



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:44 PM 

5-on-3 PP for the Caps!

Penalty to Cassels. Grrrr.



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:44 PM 

Jedi (Dan) is on the boards somewhere.... Caps need some PP work.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:46 PM 

Hi, Dan! Glad to see you back! It's been a long time!


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:48 PM 

Goal by de Vries on the PP! 2-0.

Under review...

It's a goal. From Savard and Bondra.



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:49 PM 

Breaking news: Sidney Crosby is the real deal: he won a faceoff out of three.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:52 PM 

Heward shoots and scores! On the PP! Woohoo! 2-1.

Assist to Ovechkin (it's the contrary on the scoresheet, though... OK, that's fixed).



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:54 PM 

2-1 end 1st.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 7:58 PM 

Penalties: 6-3 Thrashers (good).

Shots: 13-11 Thrashers (not bad). 17-17 if we count the missed shots.

Faceoffs: 16-11 Caps (thanks to Zubrus, 6/7).


 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:05 PM 

Wow- Havelid has 10:05 TOI, in the 1st period.

 
 

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October 8 2005, 8:08 PM 

2nd on.

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:12 PM 

AO wearing the "robovisor" tonight.... and hooks a guy, to the box. And now, Witt to the box as well, 1:39 of 5 on 3 for Atlanta.


    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:14 PM 

Hassa goes for interference, so now it's 4 on 3 for :34.....

4 on 4 now....

and the Caps get a short PP of about 1:00.



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:15 PM 

4-on-4 now and soon after a short PP for the Caps.

(EDIT: LOL!)

Go, Caps!



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:23 PM 

Thrash to the PP again. Joe B says Kolzig under fire tonight, and he's right- Atlanta REALLY crowds the crease on offense.

edit: but the Thrash hook, while on the PP- 4 on 4 again.



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:25 PM 

The Caps are spending too much time in the box in the second period. We're outshot 6-1.



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:26 PM 

SC has an assist, ML a goal tonight- the Pens lead 3-2 mid-game.

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:29 PM 

Caps with a short PP, and just as it expires......

the Thrash hook again!!!!

A full 2:00 PP this time, for the Caps!


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:30 PM 

Ovechkin: 2-2-4.

Crosby: 0-3-3.

Lemieux, the oldest NHL goal scorer of all time, I think?  Isn't he 60? LOL! I guess Gordie Howe scored goals in the NHL at the age of 50.


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:33 PM 

Gordie Howe scored 15 goals in 80 games for the Whalers at the age of... 52.

Thrashers score! 3-1.

That was Bondra from Modry and Stefan.



    
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October 8 2005, 8:43 PM 

This morning, I watched the highlights of yesterday's games, and I must say that the goals scored by Kotalik and Afinogenov against the Bruins were beauties! Almost exactly the same goal, except that Kotalik shoots right and Afinogenov shoots left.


 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:48 PM 

Pens lead 4-2 now- Jackman and Orpik with goals, and SC/Recchi assists on both- SC now 3 points on the night.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:50 PM 

Second period stats (only):

Penalties: 4-3 Caps.

Shots: 11-5 Thrashers (18-6 with the missed shots).

Faceoffs: 10-10.


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:52 PM 

"Only" two points for Crosby tonight, Roger. Two garbage assists.

Hopefully, Ovechkin gets a hat trick in the third.


 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:54 PM 

Yes- they took his assist on the Palffy goal, and gave it to......

ex-Cap Steve Poapst.


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:57 PM 

Bruins score. 4-3 Pens.

 
 

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October 8 2005, 8:57 PM 

3rd on.

 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:58 PM 

And again- Bruins have tied it up.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 8:59 PM 

Has anyone noticed that I've added Ovechkin to the banner, by the way? Ovechkin, Halpern, Zubrus, Witt and Kolzig.


 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 9:00 PM 

Mellanby rings the post, Aubin scores on the rebound. 4-1.

Assists: Mellanby and Exelby.

I believe we should have rested Olie in the third.



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 9:02 PM 

ML with another for the Pens.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 9:04 PM 

Mellanby shoots and scores! 5-1. Let's pull Olie.

The assist goes to Aubin.



    
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October 8 2005, 9:08 PM 

Yes, already 9 goals in the Bruins-Pens game. Record to break: 10 goals (Islanders-Sabres on opening night, with one ENG, and Thrashers-Caps yesterday, with 2 ENG).



    
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October 8 2005, 9:16 PM 

SC- goal for the Pens.

 
 


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October 8 2005, 9:19 PM 

Are you going to be able to attend the Rangers-Caps game next monday, Roger?

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 9:22 PM 

Yes, PPG for Crosby. 1-4-5 in 3 games. Guess who's going to be on nhl.com's main page.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 9:24 PM 

Savard on the PP (5-on-3). 6-1 Atlanta. Assists: Modry and Coburn.

Can Ovechkin play defense?



    
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October 8 2005, 9:29 PM 

Hard to forget a 7-3 loss when you meet the same team the day after.

Hossa scores! From Kozlov and Savard. 7-1 Thrashers.


 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 9:30 PM 

Yes, I'll be off Monday afternoon for the game.

You missed a good scrum, Marc- Kolzig finally had enough, and a Thrash landed in his crease- Olie decked him twice with crosschecks (7-1... Hossa), and then the fights started- Eminger squared off with Petrovicky, got twisted down, and P hit him in the face while he was face down on the ice.... SE got back to his feet and got a few in himself before the refs got them apart. Now, Peat and Sutherby get into it with someone right in front of Dunham, (Sutton took Peat down, right into Dunham)..... more calls, and the Thrash to the PP again. 3:42 left 3rd. 


 
 


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October 8 2005, 9:34 PM 

I don't think Olie should have played this game.

Stefan scores on the PP! 8-1. Assists: de Vries, Aubin.

Can't believe Olie's still in goal. Another PP for the Thrashers. This is a neverending nightmare.


 
 

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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 9:41 PM 

Hey, it's over.....

this is how they'll learn, much as we may not like it.


 
 


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October 8 2005, 9:42 PM 

Savard can thank us: he's 2-6-8 in 3 games, and probably leads the league in points.

 
 


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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 8 2005, 9:54 PM 

Third period stats:

Penalties: 12-5 Caps (including one fight).
Shots: 18-4 Thrashers (26-5 with the missed shots).
Faceoffs: 11-8 Caps.

For the whole game:

Penalties: 19-14 Caps.
Shots: 42-20 Thrashers (61-18 with the missed shots).
Faceoffs: 37-29 Caps.
Hits: 21-14 Caps (Biron and Yonkman 3).
Blocked shots: 16-9 Caps (Heward 4).


 
 


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October 8 2005, 9:57 PM 

The Bruins tied the game 6-6, LOL!



    
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October 8 2005, 10:13 PM 

Murray scores in overtime! 7-6.

But let's not forget that Sidney Crosby is the real... know what I mean?

He celebrated his first goal as if it was an OTG in game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals.


 
 

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October 8 2005, 11:36 PM 

ugly . . . how ugly?

If it was a baby, they'd diaper its face.



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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 9 2005, 2:27 AM 

Nothing of the Caps play made any sort of sense tonight.

What also didn't make sense tonight was the bogus charging penalty the refs called on AO (when he knocked the Atlanta defender into Dunham after the whistle).

Had this taken place in the Toronto/Montreal game going on at the same time, that would not have been called.

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October 9 2005, 5:26 AM 

I actually liked that move, if not the call- the Thrasher Dman (I think it was Havelid) skated in on AO, maybe said something to him, and AO just shouldered him away (and off his feet, right into Dunham). And there is pretty much the answer as to why Ovechkin had so little ice time in the 3rd- when Havelid was on the ice, Ovechkin was not.

Havelid was Ovechkin's shadow all night.

You can see this in the shift charts (and Havelid's super-massive 30:59 TOI. And, by the way, Havelid had 27:48 TOI the first game, doing the same thing); the Caps tried skating with him, they tried waiting for his shift to finish, they tried everything, but couldn't get the guy off the ice when they wanted Ovechkin on.

Havelid is 32, and a veteran; he was perfect in his defense of a rookie. I know hockey's a team game, but I think we're seeing this type of man-to-man coverage more and more (you might not remember that far back, but when the Caps played the Lightning in that last playoffs, every time Calle Johansson hit the ice, Lecavalier and St. Louis did, too- they eventually drove Calle out of the series.) . Every club is now going to expose Ovechkin to this kind of defense (they've just seen 120 minutes of it), and it's up to Hanlon to figure out how to beat it. Cassidy, bless his heart, figured it out in the playoffs- he benched Calle- but I don't think Hanlon has that option. The Caps are going to have to learn how to counter this type of smothering defense, if they want to see improvement.

We shall see.

edit: It will be Malik or Kasparaitis doing this job, Monday afternoon- I'm leaning toward Malik (Kaspar is too prone to take penalties, and may still be recovering from past injuries).



    
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Re: Game 3 at ATLANTA Thrashers

October 10 2005, 4:42 AM 

You're right, Roger:

ovechkin_havelid.jpg 

Top: Ovechkin; bottom: Havelid.

 

My thoughts about the last two games:

Friday, the defeat was a lot less disheartening, because we scored three goals, and if we don't count the two ENG (especially the third one, for which I blame Hanlon), it was only a 5-3 loss. The kind of defeats we can accept.

Saturday was different. I think that Johnson should have started in goal, or should have replaced Olie at the second intermission. We were trailing 3-1 after two periods, and it was still possible to come back; but just in case the third period turned into a nightmare (that was actually very predictable), it was better to preserve Olie from that, I think, because the previous defeat was enough for him. According to Tarik El-Bashir's last article, though, he's not that affected by the two consecutive Bonzaizations, so perhaps it doesn't matter... But Johnson needs to see some action soon.



    
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