hi every one,

enough of talkin porn and lets discuss somthing worthwile.

The above issue is of signinficant importance to our future relationship with Australia.

If Australia is going to continue treat us this way, i think it is time we become radical and stand up against some of its foreign policies especially towards PNG which is always suppressing in nature.

The question is why is Ausie overlooking PNG and is considering those smaller Pacific Island countries who are taken care of by NZ and who do not even have historical ties with Ausie . Isn't it racism at its best? or is it another form of neocolonialsim.

Come to Ausie and you will hardly find PNGeans given opportunity to make a living here. It is full of these smaller PICs who have nothing in common with Ausie? Did they fight for Aussie in the war? Did they lose a blood to make what Ausie is now? It is very very very difficult just to obtain a tourist visa comming to ausie compare with Fiji and other samller PICs. After all the hard work we did for them during the war, Australia still does not recornise us in its development policies.

Even most Ausies do not know where PNG is. All they knew is that PNG is a primitive society made up waring tribes, full of AIDS victims and swamped with criminal activities in most of its major towns and cities.

what are our politicians doing? Can they debat such issues?

I think its about time we elect radical leaders like Hon Luther Wenge and other for PM job who can fight this neo-liberal notion of development Australia is administaring in PNG.

If Ausie continue to behave toward PNG in this manner, we have to be radical like some Latin American coutries did towards U.S attitudes towards them in the 60s and 70s. Cuba is a good example.

Lets subotage some of their foreign interests in PNG. If it means severing ties so be it. There are countries and states like Taiwan we can tap into for Development assistance (in proper manner). We are too dependendend on Ausie thats why they continue to treat us this way.

Honestly, If I am the PM, I will invite north korea to built a nuclear plant in Daru and see how ausies react?

over to yous.


Feedel Kastro

I have been lambasted by a priest for suggesting that Indonesia should rule PNG. Now a wantok suggests that North Korea build a nuke reactor in Daru. What a spectacle! Imagine thousands of PNG wantoks marching like sticks before Kim Jong-Il. Imagine PNG wantoks submitting 90 percent of their agricultural output to Dear Leader Kim. Imagine ... oh dear ... imagine the Aussies waiting for the nuke to be installed. I bet the Indonesians would be happy with a nuke next door. Ho ho ho!
I say it's a good idea. Ho ho ho!

You ****in racist,

get out of PNG.

Our leaders need to sit down and have a proper discussion on this related issue. I believe PNG has completely being overlooked in this situation alone. A pilot scheme is probably the way to start identifying the threats and opportunities in this new scheme. As the original writer and I have seen heaps of these statemenets YES you do have to be over and above 100% scrutinized before you're given a visa to come to Australia.

On another note, I don't believe Papua New Guineans who live in Australia are either way succumbed living in Australia. Surely the standard is high but your decision to live here in Australia and cope with the standard is your own will. No one will force you to.

I've learned that as long as overcome the culture shock you will then understand the lifestyle. All in all, you will overcome negativity and issues related to history. I don't have to brag about that.

My idea of us moving forward is to have an open discussions with both sides of the countries' leaders. Until we understand fully, why Australia is reluctant to allow the scheme to fellow Papua New Guineans, we will then work towards achieving results.

I am only providing my personal opinion and am open for constructive ideas, i am also hoping a leader has access to this site and can take away what value thoughts he has read on this site.

Thank you
Islands & Mountains, Sunshine & Sea (PNG)

Brada or Sista

I am with you all the way on this issue. Aussies have very negative attitude toward PNG. Well its up to them. who cares - they can think what they like but I shall always remain a proud PNGean. Lets forget about our special ties and relationship with Aussies. They are only using us for their own gain. We need prime ministers in likes of Iambakey Okuk, Luther Wenge and ofcourse Somare hinmself. We should run our own affairs and not get bullied around by Aussies. We have nothing to lose. Lets put our heads together and work to develop our country. we can do it. We don't need Australia.

Why should you succeed now when you have failed miserably since 1975? There is not one PNG person worth a pinch of salt at the moment. Not one of you has the guts to throw off Australia. Not one of you has the guts to fight corruption. You are a pathetic people and you disgust me.

How was Australia doin 30+ years after the convicts landed?

I was not in Australia 30 years after Cook. But Oz is not the problem, wantoks. It is you people!

Who causes armed robberies, kidnapping, rapes, stealing, bringing tribal fights to crowded cities and the list is endless?
The answer is the PNG people. So if PNG guys are too dumb to realise...if Australia is to bring seasonal workers in from PNG, these people would be bringing all these problems right into the heartland of Australia. Australians are better off getting seasonal labour from Samoans, Tongans, etc who are more civilized than PNG. Seasonal workers are usually unskilled semi educated people which in PNG's case are the sort who are most likely to do harn than good.
If PNG wants employment, it should create its own opportunities from the vast natural resources of gold, oil and gas it has. Pacific countries like Samoa, Fiji and Tonga do not have any resources and are given preference over PNG. Besides, PNG is the recipient of the largest portion of Aussie Aid among Pacific Island countries yet it is asking for more. What a spoilt child. Just like many of your politicians who like to boast and thump Australia that PNG is a sovereign country...well so too is Australia. As a sovereign country we Aussies make our own decisions on who we like to employ in our own country so go and beg somewhere else.

I think I would agree with you on this note, Meri Aussie. I am a true Papua New Guinean and have my portion of say, love, patriotism, and honor for my country where due.

Nevertheless, after reading through and analyzing what the situation is I believe we PNG People should hold our heads down and blame ourselves for whatever negative outcome we'd eventually be faced with in this regard. Either that or its a wake up call for us PNGeans. "!!Do not depend and do not be too spoiled!!". We're definitely the biggest pacific island country in the region and we should lead by example. Rather than fight over wanting to feed off every opportunity (be a seasonal labour-donor country), we should be humbled with that opportunity being shared with our younger sister countries by Australia or better yet, we (PNG) bring in seasonal workers from our smaller sister countries to work our fields. Show it to the other younger and smaller sister countries what's right and how we should be conducting ourselves before them and before Australia and NZ.

Australians and the Aussie government reserve their right and can rightfully make whatever decision they feel suites them, and that does not necessarily mean we (PNG) go cry foul over being denied because they said NO. That is so lame and childish to me!! I rather see this forthcoming decision as a true challenge and a call to us Papua New Guineans to get on our feet and be who we are supposed to be in the region.

It's not just with this current "seasonal labour" thing. If you think about it, sports, professional employment, Tourism and so forth, to name a few. Guys, we've gotta wake up now, either we do or we do not at all even in a century.

We've gotta respect what decision Australia has come up with, and that does not call for us as a country to be rogue and/or retaliatory per se'. Lets just take this moment to look over our shoulders and perhaps challenge ourselves in a more liberal and positive approach. Lets wake up and be who we are supposed to be. i.e. the biggest island country in the pacific region. Walk by example. And do not cry!!!

Freddie
SD, CA

I am in total support of Robert Moniker, Freddie and Meri Aussie. PNG doesn't need money. PNG has loads of them, yet when the government fails to manage them transparently and distribute them equally the end result is that the citizens continue to live below the poverty line.

PNG is the second largest island country in the world after Greenwich (somewhere in the Artic circle) and should be a leader in the Pacific and elsewhere by example. We shouldn't be crying for help all the time, but instead we should be helping other smaller island nations and be an example. Australia feels that we are fed the "bigger pie" and is unfair for other pacific nations if it entertains PNG's seasonal labour requests.

If PNG cannot manage the $400 million it gets every year from the Australian Tax Payers, what more can it manage? Ol poret tu nogut olgeta labourers go na start formim Tari Block or Papua compound or Goipex 105 gang lo Australia na bagarapim ples.

Catch!

Mountain Mangi

kanaka greenland ino greenwich. greenwich is in britain

why cant we stand up for ourselves instead of looking for foreign help...?

are we really that childish... that we need a parent to rule and dictate to us?

Wantok, ol man complain lo "luk north" policy stap na yu mas hait lo hul blo stone na kam out so you no aware! your a joke. forget the aussies, forget the asians, lets work together to build up our country...

true patriot

thank you

Sem Pasin ya.

Why are we moaning and groaning saying....'look at Australia its not accepting seasonal workers from us"?

If our leaders took theyre heads out of their asses. They would improve the agriculture sector here so we can compete with Australia in selling our produce.

I can tell you our workers will be paid way less than Australian residents for the same job(But more than the average PNGean) and eventually win market share.

Simple economics.

exactly, its not Aussies fault so stop blaming them! this is stupid, its not racist remember who wanted independence n then who eventually stopped all ties with Australia cause they thought they knew everything, the people and the PM, somare has no idea does wat he does 4 money 4 himself not 4 the village people. PNG has 2 fix itself up if it wants 2 tell the people off that help them out

I employ many women from PNG in Sydney. Give me a call. I pay good wages. Clean honest work.

true..honest work

Fedel Kastro,

Being a Papua New Guinean myself I can totally relate to the anguish you feel towards the Australian government with regards to their decision makings. I wouldn't call them 'racist' when they are allowing easy entry of Fijians because PNGans and Fijians are similar in race, cultural beliefs and values. Of course there are some Australians who are still racists but only a minority as campaigns against racism have decenitized such mentalities.And also to add racism is considered a crime in Australia. Having the feeling of being discriminated against is in most cases because us being overly consious about our background. We should keep an open mind and accept challenges because the greatest statisfaction comes hard work.

Moreover, I disagree with any Asian country coming into PNG and plundering our land. That idea is absurd. I think Australians are more conscious about the enviroment and offer better benefits. I guess its how we use up and manage the benefits that needs futher investigation before we even consider completely cutting the ties. Lets not forget that PNG is classed as a developing country and we need as much help as we can to develop. Lets leave whatever ties we have with whatever countries remain and appoint competent, intelligent and God fearing leaders who can manage our resources and aids well first.

Em tasol.

I agree with KND

yep exactly KND

rigth on the money...well done

Yes we fought for australia, yes we have historical ties with them...but we were also the ones that fought for our independence....WHY?? i do not know..but we wanted and we got it and know we're where we are...Our country isn't getting anywhere because of corruption..stupidity and greed.

We gotta stand up and change...make a change for the better. We have laws that are there in place but no one seems to care...we don't inforce them.

C'MON PNG WAKE UP!!!!! We can definately do better than this....and if we worked really hard at it...we probably wouldn't have to look to aussie for aid...we could finally be INDEPENDENT after all.

Australia and the Federal goverment are not blind, they have stats of all the aids they have provided over the years and also the scholarships they have dished out.

they have records of all Papua New guineans who have come to Australia either to work, study or on holidays and how many of them have abided by law and achieved what they came for.

I believe these stats help them to make decisions around accepting seasonal workers from PNG or not

With respect to law abiding PNGians in Australia, they are some have acted in ways contradictory to their visa conditions and have given a bad impression to the rest of PNG.
If these learned people can behave like that, what hope is their if Australia allows illiterate or semi educated PNgians to come, work and live in Australia?

They know they are gambling and perhaps asking for more headache.

If they decide not to allow PNGians in, I think it will be in their national interest and being a sovereign state, they reserve the right to decide.
Whatever the outcome, it only calls for the PNG Government to pump in more funds and develop the Agriculture and Tourism sector. PNG has great potentials in these areas.