The Funny thing is, if it wasn't for Jerry Only, Mike would be playing Dingbat's with a Misfits cover band.......oh wait a minute......... he did play Dingbat's with a Misfits cover band! OH SNAP*!*
Funny how everyone (which there are MANY) who have worked with chud say nothing bad about chud, even Tom and Graham continued to work with chud after Graves. One day mike will grow up and see he is really just talking about himself, he is a very confused guy.
the bad thing is that horror kids idolize MR. Emanual & think that this type of behaviour is acceptable.. why do yo think misfits central has be come a Whore of the horror high forums..
instead of a place of Misfits trivia, with all past & present memebers we get ppl bashing every body from Glen to only to, i think i read a few cry baby posts about Doyle not being a talented Guitar player...
some places even where bashing chuck Biscuit. I guess is what i am trying to Say, Emanuel has some issuses that need to resolve. again i'm not saying that everybody is Perfect... & i have seen some really talented individuals rot with that type of mentality ... the I'm the rock star & i can't get a Job because it inteferes with my Music Career. Proper Respects go out to the People that have Day Jobs and manage to still go out on Tour.... in retro spect..
If It Wasn't For Danzig /Starting the Misfits / Cliff Burton Wearing the Shirts / Metallica Covering Last Caress/Greenhell out of Respect For Cliff / revitalizing the Misfit Name in the Eys of the Public.
Jerry & Doyle Would not Have dumped the Kryst Project. we would not have Met Graves or Chud. & me Not Ever seeing a misfits Show i told my self i would not allow to miss the last tangable Piece of Misfits i could get my hands on / Buying all the graves Merch at the Table, Taking all the Pictures. / and repeating the same for the Next year. which i met Grahm & Tom. / and if it wasn't for Loki letting me Join the Gotham RD st. corpse & letting me Down when i was not informed of a date Change that would have costed 100.00 dollars + 4 hour drive to get there / that Prompted the Decision never to Support Mr Emanual. / I turn to the last option i had & i said i wasn't letting go to the opertunity.///....
2004 i Met Lighting Laurie / Sal Bee /Fish /Al X /Alyssa / Chud / - (which I learned of Sardonica)
2005 I Met Rebecah Nurse / Placebo & Made Great /Friends with Laurie / MD Featus Eater /Argyle Goolsby.
who in turn got me introduced to TB Monstrosity.... Full cicle, if it wasn't For MDFE talking time to answer questions for me & Jerry Releasing the Kryst 5 Song EP, i never would have Known Of The Murp.
now that I think About it, I'm Glad Michelle Graves is a Prick....
i dont know what to say about all this. i have had to make a tough decision in the past few weeks, the decision was to change how i felt about mr. graves and company. i have turned my back on them. michale graves is always bashing those that helped him become what he is today(which isnt much). mike graves and j-sin trioxin ****ed me over after i did them a HUGE favor. i let them borrow my line 6 flextone 2 amp-head for the rest of their tour because j-sin blew his out. it took almost 2 months after the tour ended to get it back. plus i didnt get all the free stuff i was told i would get and i didnt get my power chord back, also some of my x-ward and misfits stickers i had on it were removed. graves has kinda been an ******* after the web of dharma first tour. he has been disrespectful to those that helped create who he is and to his friends. i dont like him anymore and it hurts me to say that b/c i WAS a huge fan of his. dr. chud has never been rude, disrespectful, or negative to me in any way. i believe that he is a good guy and i dont care what anyone has to say. infact, I KNOW IT. michale graves was once an inspiration to me, one of my former heroes has let me down. and deep down inside it sadens me. but i have met some great guys now, ron(mdfe) and ofcourse dr. chud. i will always have memories of mr. graves and i still enjoy some of his music, but as a human being , i find him to be an ungreatful, selfish, snob. thank GOD i have the x-ward and the misfits.. music is my life. chud and jerry have never let me down. people will say **** jerry, but he has kept the misfits alive. i dont care who is in the band, i just wanna see jerry putting out those songs i love. but yeah, to turn my back on michale graves hurts me because my heart is in the music i love. i use to believe in him. now i feel foolish for ever having faith in him.
DOC, I HOPE U NEVER LET ME DOWN. MY HEART IS IN ALL YOU DO. THE MUSIC U HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IS A BIG PART OF MY LIFE. I HAVE FAITH IN YOU AND RON. I CONSIDER U GUYS AS FAMILY. DONT BE LIKE MIKE GRAVES. I NEED THIS MUSIC TO SURVIVE.
to me this is all a big deal. i have been let down by someone i held on high. chud still has his seat up there.
why is anyone surprised about what Mr Michael Emanuel Graves is saying? why is anyone let down by him? this ****'s been going on for years. hasn't anyone noticed his modus operandi is to talk **** first and loudest about everyone else. according to Graves, everyone else is wrong and he's a constant victim. it's also funny that he keeps re-writing his history. now all of a sudden DOYLE was his mentor and taught him all he knows, but anyone who talked to Michale before he had his falling out with CHUD knows that CHUD was his mentor and the one who backed him and helped him out. it's funny he keeps using Doyle's name to get some kind of street credibility with the Misfits fans. from what i heard Doyle didn't like him at first, and wanted him out of the band. CHUD was the one who worked on making JERRY and DOYLE like and keep Michale. I'm actuallt surprised no one from the douche crew has come to this board to say "CHUD'S so GAY and SUCKS" yet. i'm sure one of them will show up to spread their lies soon.
dirty joe, (and you to JOHN JASPERs) it's just a shame it took you so long to realize this ****, and it's a shame you got ripped of by JSIN. all of those guys are thieves, scumbags and liars. they'll probably come up with a story about how it was joe's fault that they didn't give back his stuff right away and it's joes fault that stuff is missing and they took the stickers off. in Michale and JSIN's warped ass pathetic little minds, they see it as an honor for YOU to have lent them your equipment. your'e supposed to be thankful to them in their minds. joe, the X-WARD and CHUD may not be the "BIG ROCK STARS" that Michale and his gay ass crew think they are, but you know they are genuine COOL, GIVING, and HONEST people who care about all of their fans and appreciate all you do.
Man i thought you were to get some cool "Thank You " stuff from "GaySon? TryCockSon."
crap on that... i guess be Glad. He Sent it.... i've been in the shoes where people say the send somthing, & its in the mail blah blah blah . Just /Kidding with ya.
Put me together with the bodies of the dead
And I will wait for life... and breathe again...........
If mike THINKS he's such a nice guy and big rock star, why does he pay his merch girl $10 a show? sounds like mike is projecting and HE is the one who is greedy.
his merch girl/manager is his girlfriend. also i hear booby butt**** i mean bobby bloodfeast makes 10 bucks a day to. now if i remember correctly all x-ward crew including band mates get the same pay and its not 10 bucks a day.
Views on JSIN Trioxin, do not Reflect on His Ties With Blitzkid.... just venting uncoolness in what happended to Dirty Joes Line6... TB. Goolsby, & Jesco rule the Damn planet..hands down
Put me together with the bodies of the dead
And I will wait for life... and breathe again...........
mike graves is lame EMO music! Hey chud i just bought your cd on the myspace page, i love that song SPIdErBABy, i seen the tour dates and i'm wondering are you going to hit portland OR. this year?
Y cant he write something meaningful? something that some one can cry to? something that someone would get etched on their tombstone? something like Powerless..or mommy made love to an alien....Deep!
Mikeal graves is probly the biggest crybaby on earth, the best thing chud ever did was to start up X-WARD. There music is awsome and i love the mad doctor fetus eater. how can you top live bugs crawling on your face while rippin out a solo! TRUE HORROR GENIUS.
“If you were a 19 year old kid and Jerry Only invited you to sing for the Misfits, are you honestly gonna tell me you'd say no?”
Surely, no, most guys would be honored at the opportunity to do so. However, they would be honored with the underlying pretext that there would be fame and fortune resonating from such notoriety by being the front man for the Misfits.
But then to be so bold and say, “I got sick and tired of Dr.Chud caring only about himself and his own personal and financial gain.” That’s pretty ballsy! Isn’t that the ultimate goal for any musician? Come on, now! Do you really want to hang out in the subway singing for your dinner day in and day out? Apparently not since Graves in fact does not deny the opportunity for singing with the Misfits. It’s pretty self evident here that we can deduce Graves is just being hypocritical.
hope i didnt stir up too much trouble by expressing my opinion. i say one thing on this forum then i got mike emailing me and words are being said. i guess only one good thing came out of this, this forum finally got some activity. but yeah, i am done on this whole issue with mike graves.
dr. chud i am freaking out i never knew about your band untill today this is ****ing crazy but now im saveing im going to get that great cd your band x ward kicks ass great stuff. take great care sincerly andy rotten.
Every time this topic comes up, I know not to expect much in the way of intelligent discussion.
A few people thus far have been reasonable and level-headed, able to divorce the artists from the art, enjoying the music for what it is without worrying about this ridiculous in-fighting.
But the majority of you... Jesus cross-dressing Christ on a bike. It's kind of pathetic seeing how many people have internalized this feud.
I'm a fan of X-Ward, Graves, Misfits, Blitzkid, Mister Monster... How is that, you may ask? Because I'm more concerned with the music than what the musicians are doing in their personal lives. I don't have to like them as people, I just have to like the music they're making.
It's sad that this kind of ridiculous in-fighting and squawbling is tainting modern horror punk. Even worse that so many of you are so devoid of a life yourselves that taking sides and spouting off juvenille insults is the most interesting thing you can think to do with your time.
All I'll say is that Mike is clearly a deeply troubled man, and could do with some professional therapy. But I have a gut feeling that Chud and Jerry can't claim to be completely innocent in this debacle either.
I know my pleas are going to fall on deaf ears, but I think it's time for the fans to stay out of these arguments. Mike, Chud, and Jerry are all grown men and perfectly capable of defending themselves. They don't need a bunch of wankers on the internet who can't even spell to fight their battles for them.
I'm pretty sure you have no more of a stake in the argument between Mike, Jerry, and Chud than I do.
So maybe you should stop internalizing it and pretending it has anything to do with you.
Christ, people like you are every bit as pathetic as those morons who keep fighting the Metallica/Megadeth rivalry. What makes any of you think the half-literate ramblings of a few irrational fans online are going to make any difference when the musicians themselves are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves?
I understand your point in separaing art from artist. now lets try this in a perspective that works in real life...... i'm gonna try not to mention names or point fingers
for a lack of better examples, "man i dig your vibe & where you are coming from, but you singing sucks"
or "man, you got a great voice, what is the crap you singing about" .. but in this case is
man these tunes rock, but you have suprred me wrong, in a since supporting you i'm betraying myself and saying, thanks for the slap in the face can i have another. kinda like having a bad girlfriend yo can't stand her guts & is very posseive, but the sex is great. how far do you say man i hate that bitch but that j.Lo ass is worth it to put up with...
in the same way its dude your **** sucks honestly & i tell this as friend. but i'll still buy your stuff becasue i believein your dream & vision, i guess bottom line is
On Friend to Freind or more like on Personal Levels, certain people have let our expectations of them
down, others have been coolm, & have not persude a discussion on the matter, & others have just taken somthing we liked & ran it to the Ground ...
Yes i am drunk
Put me together with the bodies of the dead
And I will wait for life... and breathe again...........
If you've been personally slighted I understand. But with few exceptions, most of the people posting on here probably haven't met all of the musicians in question in person, probably own the albums of one or two of them, and when they run out of facts to use to bash the percieved threat that is Mike Graves they make **** up and try to pass it off as fact.
But if you do have a personal grievance, there are better places to air it than one of these boards, considering the percentage of the crowd who are knee-jerk reactionary children eagerly looking for a reason to justify their inane tantrums and incapability of putting aside their bias and hearing the arguments of anyone who does anything other than agree with them completely.
I recall the last time I saw a thread like this come up, people over at the Horror High boards got pissed. However, the senior members advised everyone to stay the hell out of it because no good could possibly come from starting a flame war with a bunch of emotionally excitable net-rabble.
Hell, I'm only here to try and appeal to the rational side of a few people for whom there is still hope. Whatever the feud between the musicians is, the majority of us have no place in it. And personally, I'd even say that those who do have personal slights with any of the bands shouldn't get involved in the in-fighting either as it's still technically not their battle.
