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April 11 2002 at 2:26 AM
 

 
I am sorry to say that the tone of the replies to my postings on this forum has been such that you want everyone to have only opinions similar to your own.

You do not want a discussion.

My views are spin - but not the views of the extremists on this forum!!

It appears that most of you do not want to consider the possibility of another opinion.

Let us take the subject of celebration of the great “surrender” or “victory” regarding the BBC use of the term “militant Hindu”.

May I suggest you go to a BBC site and enter the term “militant Hindu” in the search box and hit the Search button. You will get 920 results in about 92 pages in BBC where this term is likely to have been used.

When you open a page, use the Find feature of your browser and enter the word "militant" and find all the references as in these languages the word may not be just “militant” but “militante”, etc.

And what about the use of the same term in languages which are not so closely related to English as Swedish, Finnish, Arabic and others that do not come up in this search?

Have you even got the barest of resources to locate your vision of the the problem, let alone correct it?

None of you have no idea how a news organisation works. You have only your narrow vision to criticise what you do not even understand.

The immaturity of the authors of postings in this discussion forum greatly does disservice to India and Indians.

While you are going through the BBC Search results, I suggest you also look at the various sites maintained by the “evil ogre” BBC about religions as Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and others. eg.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/people/features/world_religions/hinduism.shtml

Why should a British organisation paid for by British tax payers, predominantly of Christian background, spend so much time and effort on setting up pages on such subjects as the other religions of the world?

Don’t give me spin that they are busy converting the world to Christianity.

May I take you back to the time Indira Gandhi imposed Emergency Rule in India in 1975. The “always” sycophantic All India Radio said nothing, as is the case even today of the atrocities by present Indian regimes.

Even the independent Indian newspapers were powerless to do anything with the censorship in place.

And how did Indira impose her censorship?

Besides controlling the Government media, she just cut off Government controlled newsprint supplies to errant newspapers.

No newsprint, no newspaper!!

It was the multilingual services of BBC which reached deep into the heart of India, in almost every regional language and informed the people about what was happening in the country.

Indians got back their democracy because of the untiring work of organisations such as BBC.

BBC, and its correspondents as Mark Tully, have not surrendered to Indira or the Hindutva. Most of these correspondents love India and Indians and not the corrupt political organisations whose only interest is to expand their power base in their own personal interests.

These correspondents have kept their balance and tried to keep the information from all sides flowing.

Maybe you think it was the work of the RSS - well, I can tell you the RSS was plotting the assasination of Indira Gandhi at that time. I know, I was there.

I wish all of you would grow up and start to look at life with God-given eyes and see what is wrong with India and act as individuals in your own life to improve the country instead of promoting hatred and divisive practices.

It is easy to blame the minorities when the real problem lies with corrupt politicians of all groups - Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Jains and everyone else.

Concentrate of issues which bring about a peaceful honest secular society rather than hateful destructive one you are promoting.

Maybe “Hindu Kush” means “Hindu Slaughterers” - where Hindus indulged in slaughter (hopefully of animals and not people) in sacrifice, and not vice versa of Hindus being slaughtered?

The web site which was referred in this forum actually provides the vital clue as to why it could not be “Slaughter of Hindus” but maybe you, like the author of that site, cannot see that.

Just because a Hindutva site uses one author’s interpretation of the words Hindu Kush, it does not mean I have to accept that. I may have studied the subject and situation in greater depth than him and am not going to be led like a lamb along a path which is only devoured by hatred for others.

I think I happen to know, and you do to, another meaning for the word “Kush” than "Killer" or "Slaughter"!

There are many excellent web sites about Hindu Kush which have a different story to tell than a Hindutva author!! These include in depth discussions with the people of the region in their own language about their culture and their history. They tell a completely different story than what the Hindutva wants one to believe. But, of course, that, to you, is the work of anti-Hindutva (extrapolated by you as anti-Indian) historians!!

Since I am persona non grata on this forum, I leave you to enjoy your warped and immature “discussions” of back-slapping on victories which are so shallow that they are already drowned because they have no buoyancy.

I pray that God helps you.

Sushil

 
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Kavita

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April 11 2002, 3:37 PM 

Sushilji,

Though I might have argued with you, I also learnt many things form your posts. As a senior member your presence is necesssary. There would be differences but that is fine. I do not think you are 'persona non grata'.

Though you correct us and may be some of us not agreeing with you, the knowledge and experience you have is vast and you should keep using it for guiding people. Correcting me is fine. I would always like to analyse the things in unbiased manner.

If everyone has the same point then there won't be any discussion.

Thanks


 
 
Jay Bhavani

Re: Unwanted in this Forum

April 12 2002, 6:48 AM 

>I am sorry to say that the tone of the replies to my postings on this forum has been such that you want everyone to have only opinions similar to your own.

>You do not want a discussion.

Absolutely not. You may have heard this gem from corporate wisdom "If you and I always agree, then one of us is un-necessary."
The board has and will always have viewpoints diagonally opposite to each other. That's what brings colour to this board.

>My views are spin - but not the views of the extremists on this forum!!
As long as you can back up your statements with substantial evidence, they won't be called spin. However, "I am older than you (an assumption) and therefore I am right", won't sell.

>Maybe “Hindu Kush” means “Hindu Slaughterers” - where Hindus indulged in slaughter (hopefully of animals and not people) in sacrifice, and not vice versa of Hindus being slaughtered?

That was a joke right? ('cause it's missing the SMILEY).
Hindu Slaughterers, is an oxymoron.
1. The Hindukush ranges, the northwesterly extension of the Himalayas, are at extremely high elevation. Not a chance for many animals to survive, and subsequently slaughtered.
2. Animal sacrifice, is not an ancient Hindu practice. By all indications, poorer class Hindus probably picked this practice up from foreign invaders (Ref: Qurbani), during or after the "kush".
I don't know of any animal sacrifice rituals being mentioned in Ramayana/Mahabharata. If anyone knows any of such rituals, please enlighten.

>Just because a Hindutva site uses one author’s interpretation of the words Hindu Kush, it does not mean I have to accept that. I may have studied the subject and situation in greater depth than him and am not going to be led like a lamb along a path which is only devoured by hatred for others.

At the end of the so called "Hindutva" article, the author has mentioned the references for his conclusions. 18 out of 21 are written by non-Hindus, and most are respected sources such as Encyclopaedia Britannica and National Geographic.

>I think I happen to know, and you do to, another meaning for the word “Kush” than "Killer" or "Slaughter"!

No, I'm no expert in Persian/Arabic, so please enlighten. "Kush" was one of Lord Rama's twin sons. But that's Sanskrit, and some 4000 years before this "Kush".

>There are many excellent web sites about Hindu Kush which have a different story to tell than a Hindutva author!! These include in depth discussions with the people of the region in their own language about their culture and their history. They tell a completely different story than what the Hindutva wants one to believe. But, of course, that, to you, is the work of anti-Hindutva (extrapolated by you as anti-Indian) historians!!

Links please.

Kavita covered rest of your post very well, so I won't duplicate that.

 
 
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