Aggressive Evangelisation drive on the rise in Kerala
May 6 2005 at 7:10 AM
Ketan Sharma
Aggressive Evangelisation drive on the rise in Kerala
Kerala
By Kumar Chellappan
Aggressive evangelisation and that too at an alarming rate is jolting Kerala state. Gospel and evangelisation teams are storming the length and breadth of the state on a war footing. A Christian Chief Minister whose hatred for the Hindus is quite ‘well known’ and a pliable administration make the operations easy for the proselytisers. The police force in the state is full of Christian officers who do not have any qualms in acting as preachers. One of the prominent lawyers in the state complained about Siby Mathew, a senior IPS officer, for whom all criminals are equal, but Christian criminals are more equal. This speaks volumes about the state of affairs in the state.
With Sonia Gandhi at the helm in New Delhi, various Church authorities are in an aggressive mood. They build up false cases against RSS activists. The incident at Olavanna where the Missionaries of Charity alleged that they were attacked by the Sangh Parivar came quite handy for the police to implicate innocent RSS activists. Central Travancore area in the state is experiencing proselytisation drive of an unprecedented nature. A Pentecostal leader by the name of K.P. Yohannan has unleashed a reign of terror on the poor Hindus in the area. The tsunami attack along the coastal districts of the state has come as a God-given opportunity for the likes of Yohannan.
Evangelisers are on the prowl all over the state. They identify houses where women are alone during daytime and approach them with Christian literature and other campaign materials.
Evangelisers are on the prowl all over the state. They identify houses where women are alone during daytime and approach them with Christian literature and other campaign materials. The shocking phenomenon is that they are targeting the general wards of the medical college hospitals and other government hospitals in the state. Pastors visit the poor patients and pray near their bed and brainwash them with promises. “If you convert to Christianity, all your problems would come to an end. It is the Satan whom you worship as God and who creates all problems,” they tell these illiterate villagers.
The new-found bonhomie between the Church and the CPI(M) has come in handy for the evangelisers. The Kerala CPI(M) has two prominent Christian leaders in Thomas Issac and M.A. Baby. Though both of them are marxists, the Church considers them as their representatives in the party. Pinarayi Vijayan, the Kerala CPI(M) secretary, is at the mercy of these two devout Christians. That is the reason why Pinarayi sings paeans to the evangelisers. Pinarayi went to the extent of describing the nuns of the missionaries of charity as angels!
The CPI(M) which spares no chance to attack Mata Amritanadamayi and Shri Ravi Shankar kept a studied silence when Lonappan Nambadan, one of the party MPs, attended a conclave held by the Roman Catholic church. The CPI(M) leadership is in the process of building a flyover between AKG Centre ( the party headquarters at Thiruvananthapuram) and the Bishop Palaces across the state. Moves are afoot to project Baby as the future chief ministerial candidate.
Re: Aggressive Evangelisation drive on the rise in Kerala
May 7 2005, 9:24 AM
THE NEW POPE:
Nazi-putra ... Rat's Ass Inger ... Bene Dickhead XVI ...
will be the new spiritual guide of sheet-eating indian
church officials and the local xians they instigate ...
reports say Rat's Ass Inger XVI or Dickhead 10-5-1 or whatever
they call him has had a bleeding stroke ... the good thing is
he's old and will probably have another stroke and die soon ...
THE OLD POPE:
putrid polack pope has perished ... the old white ****** had been
rotting away for years with every disease in the medical encyclopedia ... suffering excruciatingly ... begging for mercy ... hurting no end ... his whole existence was an endless punishment for his bad karma ... his dickless christ couldn't save him ... ms ... ebola ... bird flu ... prostate cancer ... you name it he had it ... when they brought him around in his wheelchair, you had to hold your nose to block out the stench ... don't think this is the end of the foul churchman ... instead of giving him a decent Hindu cremation, his sheep - the xians - are putting him in a hole in the ground ... with the worms ... this is a bad idea ... you see his body was filled with christ-love ... when your body gets saturated with christ-love, it becomes hypertoxic ... toxins from his remains will leach out and continue to poison ground water supplies all over fkn christendom for years to come ... the stinkin' pope may be dead but he carries on his lord's work from six feet under ...
BaptistBeGone
Re: Aggressive Evangelisation drive on the rise in Kerala
May 9 2005, 11:03 AM
"Ghar Wapsi" or "come-back-home" to your roots
program originated by VHP has been increasingly
successful. Many christians are returning to
their national traditions. All of them will joyfully
come back if we'd only reach out to them. Hindus
across the country must receive, reconnect, embrace,
help and form lifelong friendships with christians
returning home to their ancestral roots.
christ symbolizes intolerance, falsehood, fraud,
propaganda, assault, aggression, violence, war,
division, destruction of families, communities
and societies. We have no space for a religion - if it
can be called that - whose main occupation seems to
be denigrating faiths infinitely superior to
itself. Propagating lies, bellicosity and funding
terror are the instruments of christianity without
which it will cease to exist.
The real antinational foreign agents in the country
are those high up in the church hierarchy like the
bishops and cardinals or similar bogus title holders
- not ordinary christians.
These gangsters and criminals are in the pay of
alien forces. They are a menace and pose a grave
threat to national security and social harmony.
Conversions conducted with foreign money have
little to do with religion. Look at the converted
christians in the Northeast. They are illiterates,
drunks, criminals and terrorists. Those in Kerala
and Goa are not any different.
Nationwide community service, helping the downtrodden
and empowering the impoverished is the answer. The poor
and the helpless are being hounded, intimidated and
terrorised by orders from the bishops and cardinals
who work for their post-colonial masters abroad. They
receive money from their foreign overlords. They do
not live a simple, wholesome and religious life. They
possess fancy cars, concubines and live in mansions.
They want to gain more and more political power
by increasing the size of their constituencies through
illegal conversions using intimidation and terror.
Send 1, 2, 5, 10% or more of your income for the
upliftment of the enfeebled and the poor. Strengthen
the hands of premier social service organizations in
the country like the VHP.
From the north to the south, east to west.... missionaries are at full throttle
May 10 2005, 5:22 PM
Dear all,
Today its Kerala, very soon we'll have the entire country overrun by these missionaries who are hellbent on destroying the original Indian culture. Hinduism or as i like to call it Sanatan dharm has already been scathed over the last few centuries... but this time its worse. According to the Indian constitution, the state is not allowed to participate or promote or take sides with any kind of relegious propagation. Yet the ones in authority do that.
The people of India now turn a blind eye to most of the attrocities happening in the country. Bliss is being found in ignorance.
Relegious conversions is at full blast and its getting out of hands.
Something must be done to kurb it. Something physically has to be done. We have to go beyond the internet and have to indulge in groundwork.
There is no more time left to be wasted in saving our way of life.
Jai Hind
Re: Aggressive Evangelisation drive on the rise in Kerala
May 11 2005, 12:21 AM
As suggested in the previous post,
give 1, 2, 5, 10% or more of your
earnings to social service organizations
like the VHP which are already on the
ground and need our help.
Christologist
Christians are faggot worshipers
May 11 2005, 7:05 AM
According to serious New Testament
scholars, christ who never married
had homosexual relationships with
some of his apostles. The christ-man
was a misogynist and never associated
with women.
So it is to be expected that christian
churches of all denominations are packed
with priests who are pedophiles, homos or
other kinds of sexual deviants.
What is the moral of the story?
christ was a faggot and christians are
faggot worshipers.
BaptistBeGone
It's true
May 12 2005, 9:31 AM
Yes, it's true. The founder of the christian
religion was a fagot.
christianity is a "father & son" religion.
There is no mother. It has no room for
women at the top.
christ left home to take up the unholy
life and shack up with the apostles. He
made no effort to remain in touch with
his parents. His mother found out where
he lived and once went to see him. When he
saw her he pretended not to recognize
her and disowned her by saying he didn't
know who she was.
He kept women out.
The practice continues. Churches are
uncomfortable with women in prominent
positions. Women cannot become priests.
Churches promote pedophilia within their
premises. They think they are above the
law.
Normal rational men want nothing to do
with christian priesthood. Only pedophiles
sign up and are received with open arms by
the church.
Yes, christians are fagot worshipers. Their
founder was a queer.
The degradation of christendom goes on.
christian countries are now passing laws
to make fagot unions legal.
Kama
Homo-erotism
May 12 2005, 10:35 AM
I think christianity is about some kind
of homo-erotic rapture or mysticism or
something.
Vik
A half-star
May 12 2005, 10:56 PM
I don't know much about the different religions
but I'd believed that christ was a great religious
leader like muhammad or an ayatollah. After
reading the messages here I am not sure.
Even a really bad movie is never given a zero
star rating. I think I'll give christ a half-star
out of a possible five stars.
homosexuality and relegion ...
May 12 2005, 11:31 PM
Guys guys guys......... lets not go into ranting useless rhetoric about the homosexual nature of any relegion.
The point here is... what could be done to stop the conversions that are taking place?!
Well giving some amount from our earnings to organizations like VHP might help, but then how much can the VHP do?
We need to do something to stop all this without creating much riot. Afterall, Christians, Muslims, Parsis etc are as much Indian as any Hindu. Our country as it stands today cannot survive if there are communal differences.
We all together form India.
But these conversions must stop. The missionaries have to be dealt with. If not by hook then by crook.
Jai Hind !
Missionaries.
May 13 2005, 2:34 AM
Make VHP and RSS strong by encouraging the rich NRI community to Donate librally to these orgainizations to make them strong and also to create a class of intellectuals who are pro hindu and can look through the facade of the so called "secularism."
BaptistBeGone
Support VHP, RSS and other social service organizations
May 13 2005, 7:45 AM
I agree with Hitanshu. I expressed the
same views in a couple of my messages.
Let me expand a little bit.
We have hundreds of milllions of half-starved
people all over the country. They are easy prey.
The problem is staggering. We can use any
amount of money. There is really no limit.
If you want to give Rs. 400 crores a year we can
use it. If you want to give 800 crores a year
we still need more to implement all of our
programs. We can fix any problem if we can
raise enough money.
VHP is smart. It knows what to do and is doing it.
But it can use our help.
We can't just stop at restraining foreign-funded
churches and their criminal activities. We must
go beyond and also bring about a genuine
transformation in the lives of hundreds of
millions of people living in hopeless poverty.
Raghu
Temples should do more social service
May 14 2005, 8:55 AM
Temples should follow vhp and rss. they
should become social service centers. people
should be able to go to a temple or a vhp/rss
office and get help for their problems.
this will also show missionaries and muslims
that Hinduism is the best religion.
VHP, RSS and the Temples
May 14 2005, 5:50 PM
I agree with Hitanshu, Baptist be gone and Raghu. I think we might just be on the verge of creating a new revolution.
We can encourage the NRI Hindu communities along with local Hindus to work towards bringing efficiency in bodies like VHP etc.
Also we should all make a combined effort to influence the temples to start undertaking social services. The temples could make a lot of difference by doing goodwill activitites for people of all castes and creeds.
This will also help in breaking the illusions of the Church and Mosque.
After all half of the people are inspired to undergo conversion only due to the social services performed by institutions.
But the question now is... how?
How can we achieve this? I from my side will try to influence the Indian community in USA and Canada for starters and will also try to influence Indians in India to contribute for this cause.
What say you guys? It would be good if we all join hands and you all commit to this cause.
I have my email listed. Clicking my name should allow you to send me an email.
Lets work towards it!!
Jai Hind!
BaptistBeGone
What should a modern religion teach?
May 16 2005, 10:14 AM
Name a few of the most important things
a religion should teach.
obey the secular laws of the land
follow religious and moral teachings
that are outside the realm of the
constitution and elected government
help others in need
preserve and enhance the environment
know that we have a special
responsibility to protect the
habitats of other creatures that
share this planet with us so they
can live as nature intended
How does Hinduism measure up?
BaptistBeGone
We do not need any more religious strife, division and discord
Australian cricketer Waugh plans to set up Christian township in Mumbai
Posted May 12, 2005
May 10, 2005 22:43 IST
Rediff.com
Former Australia skipper Steve Waugh is planning to set up a Christian township in Mumbai.
He met Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh at Mantralaya on Tuesday and discussed his plans.
Deshmukh told reporters after the cabinet meeting that Waugh's company had proposed to set up a Christian township in the city on a "100 to 400 acre land".
The industry secretary has been appointed the nodal agency for the proposal, Deshmukh added.
NOTE: Steve Waugh, a Christian evangelist and a multi-millionaire, has been a big supporter of Christian Missionary Groups in India. In the past, he has donated millions of rupees for the conversions of Tsunami victims, funding a Christian orphanage (‘Udayan’) in Kolkata and setting up a school in collaboration with the Christian Mission and the orthodox church.
COMMENTS:
Is Waugh proposing this to meet the needs of the Australian
immigrant community in Mumbai?
A township? Descendants of criminals from the penal colony of
of Australia will be coming to live in Mumbai to preach hate
and sow discord?
Mumbai has been trying hard to prevent an influx of people
from other parts of the country. But now it seems to be
finding it all right to bring in christian crooks,
pedophiles, money launderers and all manner of white wiggers
from down under.
Deshmukh, will you become a resident of this township
yourself and serve as a butler, a chauffeur or a washroom
attendant? It doesn't look like you have a functioning brain
under that gandoo topi of yours.
Ask for "100 to 400 acres of land" in Sydney or Melbourne
for a Hindu township. Are you a man, a half-man or a
sheet-eating Congress Party vassal?
There is increasing religious division and tension in the
country already.
Say NO. This is not a commercial venture. We do not want
to give foreign criminals a base. Learn from history.
Their charity work at the beginning is only a front to get in.
The real goal is to create a violent, self-hating, antinational
christian population in the country that will eventually
gain political control, destroy our civilization and
make us subservient to foreign interests.
In this 21st century, why do we need a homo-erotic, fagot
religion called christianity?
Another Congress Party gandoo, Nehru, allowed baptist
missionaries from New Zealand into the Northeast a few
decades ago. The region is now a hotbed of terror and
secession movements.
Jagan
Unheard of
May 19 2005, 4:43 AM
I can understand a proposal to open a
Wal-Mart store or some such thing. But a
foreigner asking for land to build a
township to a foreign religion
in a foreign country is unheard of.
No respectable CM of a state in any
respectable country would have even bothered
to meet with this individual. The proper
response to this proposal should have been
and should be no response at all. It's like
denying a visa. You don't have to give any
reasons for the denial.
BaptistBeGone
Say no
May 19 2005, 10:17 PM
Say no to white wiggers' christ and any
form of christian township in Mumbai.
Re: Aggressive Evangelisation drive on the rise in Kerala
May 19 2005, 11:02 PM
Down with chritian faggots. Throw the missionaries out.
Yash
Not packing a full load of bricks
May 20 2005, 12:06 PM
Anyone under the influence of christ
is not packing a full load of bricks.
If he is an evangelist, then this
cricketer suffers from extreme insanity.
BaptistBeGone
****-can this proposal now
May 20 2005, 11:23 PM
Don't let this cricketer-evangelist get
a foothold in the country. A christian
township in Mumbai is a dangerous idea.
The worthless Hindu Congress CM knows
neither history nor has any foresight.
This township is going to be swarming with
christian thugs not only from down under
but also from all over christendom. They
will conduct their nefarious activities
from within this area using a huge army of
impoverished local people after first
converting them to christianity with money.
The upshot will be a mini-Goa of old within
the city limits of Mumbai.
Most of the Hindu population is hopelessly
poor and powerless. They are dead to their
environment. They will not be able to do
anything.
The government will not move to prevent
criminal activities being carried out from
within this christian township. The police
will be bribed and bought off.
Eventually this township will have to be
dismantled through mass agitation and
mass action against it.
We can prevent all that by prevailing upon
the government to ****-can this proposal now.
Prevailing upon the govt. ??
May 21 2005, 3:16 PM
Then do so.
Any suggestions?? How to make the government realise their blunder?
Have you ever thought of what should be done if the government is being run by fools who think that pleasing the west at any cost (be it their own country men) should be their top priority!? Egoistic retards running the show in our country often act quite impulsively without giving a second thought to the consequences. I often wonder if these people should be allowed at all to be a part of a government whose action decide the fate of the billions of people of the most ancient country in this world.
How can you influence the government to refuse Steve Waugh and his proposal?
Under the Indian Penal Code Section 153A, promoting enmity between groups in religion is a recognizable offence. By allowing a Christian colony to be built the state is actually indirectly promoting relegious enmity. The state cannot under any circumstance take sides with one ethnicity and ignore the others. Its the murder of democracy.
Ironic that Hindus are treated as third grade citizens in their own homeland.
More rights are given to the minorities and worse..... missionaries are given protection. And if a missionary is killed... his wife is given a Padamshri award.
What kind of a chaos are we now living in .... when our president is (no offense to muslims) muslim, our prime minister is sikh and (this ones rather hard to digest) a lady without any official title is running the government and worse.... she's not even Indian. She's from the country which is the center for all missionary activities. She belongs to a nation which has the Vatican city..... where the popes can pass any judgement about any relegion in this world and get away with it.
These 58 years, were we really independent? Is this the definition of freedom for us? We are being ruled by minorities?????
How would you " prevail upon the government? "
Time's running out.
BaptistBeGone
Peaceful protests
May 21 2005, 11:12 PM
There has been no response to this
township proposal in the national
or the regional media.
The angrezi-speaking intellectuals
especially of the nationalist variety
have been mute.
To the best of my knowledge, my comments
here in this forum are probably the
first attempt by anybody to bring attention
to the serious consequences to our nation
from the creation of such a township.
The news story seems to have gone unnoticed
by nationalist organizations like VHP, RSS,
BJP and others. I am surprised by the
deafening silence.
Legal challenges can be mounted to stop
this proposal. Peaceful mass agitation and
mass action against it now rather than later
will in all probability force the government
to respect national sentiment.
Someone send this to me..how true who knows!!
May 22 2005, 5:00 AM
Dear friends,
Hope you all have heard CPM Leader
V.S.ACHUTANANTHAN'S remarks about Smart City;
upcoming at Kochi.He wants all the people behind
this project in Jail.
This kind of politicians will ruin our State. They
have no vision for future. It's all cheap
political games for their gain. If the project
comes up our Kochi will be the most happening
place in India. At the least 20,000 people will
get a job out there. All major IT firms, like
Microsoft, IBM, CISCO will have their offices in
the proposed project. But unfortunately that
thorn in the ass dislikes progress. He wants all
Keralites to be remained in bullock cart period.
Then only he will get supporters.
Dear friends, you know something about that great
leader. He has a son called Arun Kumar. He did
his MCA from TKM College of Engineering; Kollam.He
was one of the worst students in his class. After
completion of his course he was made as the
Managing Director of Coir Corporation, Kerala.You
may be wondering what relation Computers have with
Coir.But at that time CPM was ruling kerala. So
they are both related. After that he went to
DUBAI as an IT Consultant. So what now V.S needs
is, to make his son as the IT Director of Smart
City, when the next government comes into power.
But Smart City authorities have out rightly
declined that he will never become the Director.So
our leader wants to scrap the entire project.
Its normal that parents loves their wards. But why
should them sacrifice a nations interest for their
gains. Another thorn is KARUNAKARAN.He has made
crores of Rupees by looting our state. His son
Murali has more than 1000 acres of land in Kerala
and has stakes in almost all buildings in Calicut.
Next comes PINARAYI VIJAYAN.His daughter did her
education from one of the leading institution in
Tamilnadu, which takes heavy capitation from
Students. (Owned by Mata Amrtandamayi). You should
know that this same Pinarayi does not want Private
education institutions in Kerala, because they
take capitation from students. But he can send his
daughter to other states and can provide good
education to his child.
Dear friends, these politicians are making all of
us big fools. They all want their pockets to be
filled; their children should get good education
and jobs, but least bothered about the common man
of our state. God gave our state everything, but
he did not give us some one to guide us properly.
Its time to revolt against these kind of dirty
politicians. Do it now before its too late. Let us
give our children a beautiful place to live, which
we all dream.'Pen is mightier than Sword'. So
forward this mail to all Mallus you know. Let us
start a new revolution. Our motto is "KICK ALL
THESE LEADERS OUT OF KERALA".
Comments
May 22 2005, 5:19 AM
Well people, it is discriminating, foul languaged comments like yours that have throughout history made those you are commenting on stronger in whatever they do.
You will find many forums which discuss people like yourselves. People who live in constant fear and dont have any awareness about what is going on around them. And hence the reason why there is no analysis and you guys remain like spastics.
Aggressive Evangelisation drive is on the rise in Kerala
because keralites are basically a confused lot and that allows all kinds of moronic(christian groups and also hindu groups) to take advantage.
It has nothing to do with Sonia or any other idiot but the idiots who are your immediate neigbours including yourselves.
So get out of this stae of mind and make changes through positive ways, that will make sure the future generation wont have to worry about these christian, hindu, muslim, bahai, Nazi preachers!
Look at your malu brother or sister(normally sit at home) next to you and ask them "what do you think i can do to make this place a better place to live in?"
Forget about Sonia, etc.
Leave those comments for the weak.
BaptistBeGone
Peaceful protests ... until the government yields
May 22 2005, 6:00 AM
Peaceful protests. Large participation.
Protests to continue on a regular basis.
Once every other week for example. Until
the government yields.
No christian township in Mumbai.
The government must terminate any further
consideration of this project.
BaptistBeGone
National sentiments and feelings must be respected
May 22 2005, 7:53 AM
The government will have no choice
other than to maintain social harmony
and respect national sentiments.
We also have to devise more muscular
ways of dealing with the conversion racket
run by christian dregs abroad and their
local peons with weird colonial names like
Pintoe, DeSooza, Mascarahneus and so on.
I can't spell them correctly. These
confused and alienated christ-freaks are
still walking around with names pinned on
their forcibly converted ancestors by
colonial rapists, robbers and genocidal
maniacs.
Psychiatry will not be able to help them.
"Ghar Wapsi" program is the only road
open to them to return to normalcy.
We should step up our own Ghar Wapsi
and social uplift programs. Local peons
working for foreign masters should be
run out of town and put out of business.
Yash
Tell him to go to Riyadh
May 22 2005, 8:53 PM
Tell this cricketer to go to Riyadh,
Saudi Arabia and set up a christian
village over there.
What do you think will happen?
I think the muslims will feed him to
the crocodiles imported from Australia.
Raghu
Take it to Europe
May 23 2005, 6:17 PM
mr. waugh, take your evangelism business
to europe. christianity is fast dying
over there. the eu constitution has
refused to acknowledge europe's christian
heritage. instead the pre-christian greek
and roman past of europe has been given
prominence. thinking and informed people
in europe are dissociating themselves
from middle-eastern christianity.
we've no use for your evangelism, your
christian religion or your fkn christ.
i don't know much about down under.
people over there are probably way behind
the rest of the world.
BaptistBeGone
Europe needs your evangelism company, Mr. Waugh
May 24 2005, 9:19 AM
Mr. Evangelist, Europe is where you
should be heading. Christianity is
on its deathbed over there.
Get the hell out of our country.
Vishesh
Be on the lookout
May 25 2005, 8:57 AM
Be on the lookout for any new news about
this christian village in Mumbai.
Message by: vasants
hindunationalists @yahoogroups.com
October 07, 2002
Conversions to xianity must stop
The nineteenth century may be gone and past, but not for Indian xians
who're still walking around with strange and incongruous names pinned
on them by colonial missionaries a hundred and fifty years ago. Two out
of ten people in Kerala have odd foreign names. The percentage is four
times or higher in the Northeast. Without investigation or understanding,
they profess belief in a Palestinian messiah they call Christ - a shadowy
figure who never was and whose life story is a forgery. Their leaders are
always purchasable and prefer to live in colonial servility. The corrupt lot
is periodically plied with foreign money. Their new paymasters are the
crooks, the pedophiles and the scuzzbags - church leaders,
televangelists, sham faith healers and the like - running xian churches
and assault-ready conversion organizations abroad.
Foreign churches raise vast sums of money from their public. Most
of it goes to increase church owned land and other possessions and
enrich a few churchmen at the top. Small amounts are sent to church
officials in former colonies or poor countries where a dollar goes a long
way. Most of the small amounts thus received is hijacked by officials in high
positions. With what's left, full-time missionaries are hired at a few thousand
rupees a month to carry out illegal conversions. A few colleges and hospitals
may be built along the way to garner respectability and maintain a high profile.
The dirty work - the unlawful conversions - is carried out by individual
missionaries earning a paltry salary of a few thousand rupees a month.
One way among many to defeat xianity in our country is to hire experienced
xian field workers themselves at higher pay and better benefits and retrain
them as Hindu missionaries. These xian missionaries are not inspired by
deeply held religious beliefs. It's a job. It pays the bills. In a country
where not enough new jobs are being created in relation to the needs of its
population, any job is a dream job for most people - even one that is damaging
to our nation and society like working for xian missions. Most Indian missioinaries
would be only too happy to get out of the darkness of the xian jungle and savor the
bright sunshine if we can offer them a better deal financially - more money, better
housing, paid medical insurance for their families and so on.
The same goes for the people who are being converted. Our ancient tribal
people are without education and desperately poor. They are offered new clothes,
footwear, spending money and promise of more rewards. And they convert in
response to such inducements. There's really no religion involved in any of this.
The goal of xian missions is to increase the number of their followers. More
converts means more votes. Like muslims, xians are bloc-voters. Just as muslims do
what their mullahs tell them, xians do what their pastors tell them. This means
more political power and wealth-building opportunities for church officials high up
in the hierarchy.
Let's examine what drives foreign churches and other organizations to engage in
conversions in distant lands. For one thing, it's an old practice going back to
to colonial times. Old habits die hard. The state, the church, the military and
the voodoo scholars at universities all worked together as one team in those days.
Wherever the colonial robbers and genocidal criminals went with their guns and ships,
xian missionaries went along with them to plant the cross. It is not surprising then
that foreign churches are funding conversion activities in former colonies most of which
continue to have large and poor populations and weak governments. They are also
finding an ever venal, dollar-seeking church leadership in these erstwhile colonies.
There is also a glory factor which seems to hold sway on the public in xian countries.
Fund raisers like the televangelists falsely boast of mass conversions in far-off places.
The uninformed public mistakenly believes that their religion - xianity - is sweeping the
world. When people are so misled, it's easy to separate them from their money.
Foreign churches have been emboldened by the lack of response from successive,
do-nothing governments and private organizations during most of these past 55 years.
They have now graduated from illegal conversions to pure and holy xian work ordained
by Mr. Christ himself - arming the insurgents and funding terrorism in the volatile
Northeast.
The operator xians call the Pope who runs the Pedophilic Church is a key
figure in all this. His handlers or the dying man himself is now engaged in
a bogus exercise called "beatification". An Albanian woman who became a
Catholic nun because she could not find a husband and who worked as his
agent in Kolkata performing unlawful conversions will soon be a xian saint.
The whole fraud - the whole crooked game - is aimed at generating
accpetability to xian machinations and mischief in India.
Among those thrilled by the prospect of this sainthood are the following. Don't look
for normal people like you and me in this crowd: the Nehru family, the
Congress Party, xians, muslims, internationalists, supranationalists,
people married to foreigners, people married to xians, those
contemplating such unions, Justices of the Supreme Court, dhimmis in the GOI,
dopey Hindu swamis like the Shankaracharya of Puri and of course the good
old pseudosecular Hindus and the suave and secular columnists and editors in the
English media who will talk and write about this 24/7 until the now dead little old lady
from Kolkata is declared a saint by the Pedophilic Church in Rome.
Sainthood to the Albanian nun from Kolkata would give a boost to illegal
conversions here the Pope mistakenly figures. A Western news magazine called
him a great Pope in a recent cover story. What's great about this Pope is he's
dying. What's great about other popes and xian saints is they're dead.
Their odd names are not the only problem with Indian xians. They're self-haters.
They have no natural identity of their own - it's imposed and artificial. Their savior
is not one of their own - he's a Palestinian. They're neither here nor there. Their
allegiance to the country in which they live is dubious. Their leaders are living in
the nineteenth century taking orders from foreign masters. Their leaders also
egg them on into ongoing attacks and denigration of our national traditions. In
the Northeast, xianity breeds terrorists funded by foreign churches.
Communism, xianity and islam are mind****ing ideologies. Communism is dead
although it persists in some form in Cuba and China. There are reports that xianity
is dying in Europe which is supposedly returning to its pagan roots. These reports
may be exaggerated. Islam shows no signs of moderation and accomodation
with others and continues to be as ferocious as ever.
In Kerala, all three ideologies have been at work and have wreaked havoc. Despite
their boast of 100% literacy statewide, Keralites have little national presence in higher
education and science. They have the highest suicide rate. The state is an economic
basket case. Some are already calling it the Bihar of the South.
Indian xians and muslims are not refugees like the Tibetans who may be hoping to
return home someday. They are not permanent immigrants like the Zoroastrians
who brought their religion along with them. They are unlike the Jewish Diaspora who
went back to Israel after its creation. Indian xians and muslims are our own people.
This is their homeland. Their ancestors were forcibly converted during a period
of occupation by foreign armies. They should study the savage records of xianity
and islam in India. They should discover their roots and come back home to our
national faiths.
Vasant
Xianity and Cannibalism
May 27 2005, 10:17 PM
Message by: vasants
hindunationalists @yahoogroups.com
June 10, 2003
Xianity and Cannibalism
we had a strange encounter with xianity recently ... we bought a
house ... the sellers were devout xians ... packed in their freezer
were body parts of unwanted children ... this prompted us to
undertake an investigative journey into xianity and cannibalism ...
xianity is a religion famed for promoting fornication involving
various permutations and combinations of nuns, priests and the
laity, pedophilia, and anything-goes paraphilia within the church and
the larger society in which it operates ... it advocates witch-burning ...
it instigates terrorism ... it denigrates other faiths far superior to itself ...
but does it really promote cannibalism ... we know the church is not
safe for children especially young boys ... they'll be prey to its priests ...
what about adults ... should they be concerned about cannibals
masquerading as priests within the church ...
cannibalism is in fact a part of mainstream xianity ... its origins can
be traced back to the founder of the xian religion itself ... mr. christ
grew up in remote parts of europe in cannibal communities and
eating human flesh and drinking human blood was a dietary
philosophy he promoted vigorously throughout his spiritual
career ... he believed that cannibalism saves souls ...
in the xian holy book he says:
"... Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye
have no life in you.
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and
I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me,
and I in him. "
mr. christ was an interesting person ... he had spiritual
insight ... he says you can defeat Death by eating human flesh and
drinking human blood ... further he says if you're already dead
and buried, you can claw and climb your way out of the grave and
head straight for the local nudie bar ... but the authorities didn't
think any of this was funny or interesting and thought he was a
cannibal and crucified him ...
it's not always easy to interpret an old scriptural passage like the
one above ... there may well be other interpretations ... it's
possible that, like his miracle of the "multiplying bread", he was
promising a non-decomposing "multiplying corpse" after his
crucifixion for xians to eat flesh and drink blood from ... so that
they can become more like him with all his special powers ...
although cannibalism is a part of mainstream xianity, luckily
only a small segment of the population practices it ... and they
do it secretly ... although xians generally eat all kinds of animals
that are still alive, kicking and fighting for their life, it is not
known exactly what they do when it comes to eating people ...
where do xian cannibals find the people they can eat - alive or
dead ... homeless people are a major source ... big city parks are the
hunting grounds of choice ... many of the homeless just seem to
disappear every night ...
in xian countries you'll be struck by the number of children
reported missing every day of the year ... their pictures are
everywhere ... most pictures end up in the street clogging storm
drains ... little is done to find the missing ones or why so many
are disappearing in the first place ...
homeless people and children are not the only ones reported
missing every day in christendom ... Hindus are beginning to
disappear too these days ...
Hindus are considered formidable ... Hindu flesh is a spiritual
force multiplier ... It's prime beef ...
at the bottom you have the baptists and the 7th-day-adventists
whose flesh reportedly tastes like anchovies ... in between you
have other xian denominations and they taste variously according
to their standing - like horsemeat, chicken and so on ...
Gaurav Sharma
Strength in Unity. Let us not speak crap about others !
May 29 2005, 8:28 AM
So then, coming back to our discussion on how to tackle aggressive conversions -
The only sensible way would be to influence the temples to undertake welfare activities keeping aside their belief of "jaat".
We are not here to rant anti christian or anti islam slogans and we should not stoop low to the level of hating someone simply because they believe in a different faith. India - an epitome of secularism, we should always remember that christians, muslims and other relegious groups are as much Indians as Hindus.
Matter of fact, the Hindu population itself has a wedge among the people. One can see how much divided we ourselves are and that too over petty issues.
Now when a government fails to fullfill the promises made to the poor during election time and when the under priviliged sees that the promises made to him were only promises, he gives up. Then all of a sudden a missionary or a cleric shows up. A bright light in a dark tunnel. What would the poor do? Refuse the money he's being offered to convert to a different faith and starve his family off to death? Send his children to do house hold and sanitory work in a wealthy house instead of going to school? Marry his daughter off at a young age to some filthy man or have her bear the taunts of the society for her being single and considered a burden on her family only because her father cannot afford to give suitable gifts(and please don't tell me those days are gone and nobody believes in dowry any more)to the groom? Have his sons and daughters beg for alms at crossings and intersections in throbbing metropolises?!
The social structure of our own people is so full of disgust that the ones who are being converted are actually forced by us only.
Who are we to make a hue and cry over conversions when we ourselves turn a blind eye to the miseries of our brothers only because they're coming from the strata of society that we consider to be untouchable or poor and we do not find it worth our time to help them out because we are already too preoccupied with our own problems!?
Listen my brothers, lets not just sit and talk like a "gram panchayat" and pass derogatory comments about other relegions. Discussions without any results are nothing more than lip service. We have a mission to achieve. We get all fired up when wrong is done to our culture our way of life but what do we do? We take out our fury in typing messages full of hatred and feel satisfied.
No! This won't help.
We need dedicated and serious people who love other people but at the same time are loyal to their own way of life. After all there is no doubt in the fact that Sanatan Dharma is the only true and original Dharma of the universe.
But that does not give us the permission or the right to look at others who believe differently with such hate and disgust.
A man is not forced into conversion. Rather a man is influenced to convert.
They give him rewards and he needs those rewards. If our own people and temples had been wise enough to do welfare activities (which originally in the ancient days they used to) instead of indulging in racial prejudice towards the poor and the ones that they labelled untouchables, such conversions wouldn't have happened in the first place.
We lost our independence to the muslim invaders only because we ourselves had failed our kin.
But India as it stands of today, cannot survive if there is such a strife among the many believers it has. We all should shift our paradigm and look at ourselves as Bharatvaasis first.
Rather than propagating extremist measures, we should deal with this problem diplomatically. We should use the tools used by the dubious missionaries and clerics. We should not curse the man who's already converted or is getting converted. We should make that man a bigger promise than the one made by the enemy and we should ensure that the promise is fullfilled.
Give a better choice and it will stop.
Eventually the day will come when there wouldn't be any conversions taking place.
And while doing this, we have to under any circumstances ensure that the state is not involved in any kind of activity that would help the missionaries and make there jobs easier.
India is not a safe haven for the ones who believe in changing a person's faith and we should make sure that the state doesn't prove this wrong.
And again, instead of wasting our fire in useless rhetoric about all this we must do some actual ground work.
But in the end we should always remember, Indians first beliefs later. No matter what faith a person belongs to, he's a rightfull citizen of our nation. They are our brothers too. That is the true essence of Sanatan Dharma, of Bharatvarsha.
Jai Ma Bharati!
BaptistBeGone
Homo-Cannibals
May 29 2005, 10:31 AM
christ was a fagot. he was a cannibal.
christians are homo-cannibals.
Rupin
That's funny
May 29 2005, 2:42 PM
Homo-cannibals. That's funny.
Rupin
Liked the one about the new pope ...
May 29 2005, 8:50 PM
I liked the one about the new pope, namely:
Rat's Ass Inger XVI or Bene Dickhead 10-5-1.
That's hilarious.
Lalit
Convinced
May 30 2005, 10:27 AM
After reading the piece Xianity and Cannibalism
I'm convinced that christ was a cannibal.
BaptistBeGone
Jesuits in India
May 30 2005, 5:59 PM
These mofos are still operating in many parts
of our country. They've been around some
450 years. Most Hindus as usual remain
uninformed about who they are and what they
are about. There's little difference between
them and any other xian sect operating in the
country.
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"Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated."
Professor Arthur Noble
[The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216), from which it was subsequently torn out. The Oath is also quoted by Charles Didier in his book Subterranean Rome (New York, 1843), translated from the French original. Dr. Alberto Rivera, who escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, confirms that the induction ceremony and the text of the Jesuit Oath which he took were identical to what we have cited below. – A. N.]
When a Jesuit of the minor rank is to be elevated to command, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order, where there are only three others present, the principal or Superior standing in front of the altar. On either side stands a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the Papal colours, and the other a black banner with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, with the word INRI, and below them the words IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIUS. The meaning of which is: It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers.
Upon the floor is a red cross at which the postulant or candidate kneels. The Superior hands him a small black crucifix, which he takes in his left hand and presses to his heart, and the Superior at the same time presents to him a dagger, which he grasps by the blade and holds the point against his heart, the Superior still holding it by the hilt, and thus addresses the postulant:
(The Superior speaks:)
My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope. You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means. You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death. You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labours with the blood of the heretic; for "without the shedding of blood no man can be saved". Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me:
(Text of the Oath:)
I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christ's Vice-Regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given to His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical Kings, Princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers. I do further declare the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding, I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest; to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they entrust me, and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centres of civilisation of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things, whatsoever is communicated to me. I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever. That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the Church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope. All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath. In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament.
(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)
(Superior speaks:)
You will now rise to your feet and I will instruct you in the Catechism necessary to make yourself known to any member of the Society of Jesus belonging to this rank. In the first place, you, as a Brother Jesuit, will with another mutually make the ordinary sign of the cross as any ordinary Roman Catholic would; then one crosses his wrists, the palms of his hands open, and the other in answer crosses his feet, one above the other; the first points with forefinger of the right hand to the centre of the palm of the left, the other with the forefinger of the left hand points to the centre of the palm of the right; the first then with his right hand makes a circle around his head, touching it; the other then with the forefinger of his left hand touches the left side of his body just below his heart; the first then with his right hand draws it across the throat of the other, and the latter then with a dagger down the stomach and abdomen of the first. The first then says Iustum; and the other answers Necar; the first Reges; the other answers Impious. The first will then present a small piece of paper folded in a peculiar manner, four times, which the other will cut longitudinally and on opening the name Jesu will be found written upon the head and arms of a cross three times. You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers:
From whither do you come? Answer: The Holy faith.
Whom do you serve? Answer: The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world.
Who commands you? Answer: The Successor of St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ.
Who received you? Answer: A venerable man in white hair.
How? Answer: With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon the cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred order.
Did you take an oath? Answer: I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, nor sex, nor condition; to be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my Superiors in all things without hesitation or murmuring.
Will you do that? Answer: I will.
How do you travel? Answer: In the bark of Peter the fisherman.
Whither do you travel? Answer: To the four quarters of the globe.
For what purpose? Answer: To obey the orders of my General and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfil the conditions of my oaths.
Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.
[Note: The following books on (or particularly relevant to) the Jesuits are held by the EIPS Library:
Anon.: The Female Jesuit. London, 1851
Anon.: The Mystery of Jesuitism. London, 1658
Anon.: The Secret Instructions of the Jesuits. London, 1824
Anon.: The Secret Instructions of the Jesuits. London, 1824
Barrett, E.B.: The Jesuit Enigma. London, 1929
Barthel, M: The Jesuits. New York, 1984
Bert, M.P.: Gury's Doctrines of the Jesuits. London, 1947
Blakeney, R.P.: Alphonsus Liguori. London, 1852
Brodrick, J., S.J.: The Origin of the Jesuits. New York, 1960
Bungener, L.L.F.: The Jesuits in France or The Priest and the Huguenot. London, 1859
Coape, H.C.: In a Jesuit Net. London, no date
Dalton, E.: The Jesuits. London, 1843
De Courson, R.: Concerning Jesuits. London, 1902
Gallahue, J.: The Jesuit. New York, 1973
Goodier, A.: The Jesuits. London, 1929
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Groves, H.C.: The Doctrines and Practices of the Jesuits. London, 1889
Hanna, S.: Jesuitism: or Catholic Action. Belfast, 1938
Hastings, M.: Jesuit Child. Newton Abbot, 1972
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Ybarra, T.R. (translator): The Kaiser's Memoirs, by Wilhelm II. New York, 1922]
And he that ... keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over
the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of
a potter shall they be broken to shivers ...
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay them before me.
BaptistBeGone
Know this
May 30 2005, 10:03 PM
Q. What's christianity?
A. Colonial dirt.
Q. Brought in by whom?
A. Demented Jesuits and the like.
Q. Who's christ?
A. White wiggers' false god.
Yash
Other xian sects
May 31 2005, 7:44 AM
What about xian sects other than the
Jesuits?
They are all the same. Equally deranged
and brainsick.
BaptistBeGone
He's sick
June 1 2005, 9:40 AM
Pope Bene Dickhead 10-5-1 is brainsick.
Raghu
Peace and tranquility throughout the world
June 2 2005, 8:20 AM
What the world needs is to study the
sublime systems of Hindu philosophy and
practice the gentle and compassionate
teachings of freethinking Buddhism.
Peace and tranquility will pervade the
world.
BaptistBeGone
No peace and tranquility
June 3 2005, 6:12 AM
As long as islam and white wiggers' christianity
are operating in the world there will be no
peace and tranquility.
Yash
Revised edition
June 3 2005, 7:57 AM
7th century islam is just a revised version
of 1st century christianity. Differences
between the two are superficial. Their
histories of religion-inspired aggression,
terror, wars and conquests are identical.
Both are still at it.
Christologist
muhammad and christ
June 3 2005, 10:02 PM
muhammad was a real person. he lived from
570 to 632. He was bad and evil, and probably
reincarnated as hitler in the 20th century.
As for christ, he never was. He was not
a real person. He is not a historical figure.
He is purely a fictional character. Practically
everything he said and did can be tracked down
to one source or another in world literature.
Everything written about him in the new
testament is false. For he never existed at
all.
There are some 120 passages of various
descriptions in the new testament stolen
from Hindu and Buddhist texts.
Rupin
A piece of ...
June 4 2005, 4:48 AM
If you remove 120 or so passages in
the new testament stolen from Hindu and
Buddhist texts, what will be left?
What will christianity be like then?
A piece of garbage.
BaptistBeGone
Christianity is collapsing in Europe
June 4 2005, 5:41 AM
Thank you Christologist for informing
readers that christ never was, he's
not a historical figure, only a fictional
character and that christianity is a false
religion.
Churches are closing their doors in Europe
for lack of attendance and support. People
are rejecting the god of the bible and a
false christ imposed upon them. Christianity
is collapsing in Europe. When it dies,
Europe will be a much improved place.
Christologist
Death of christianity
June 4 2005, 9:51 AM
christianity in Europe has another problem.
No one wants to become a priest in this
wretched religion except the pedophiles.
If it dies in Europe, it will probably
begin to die everywhere else too.
The death of christianity will be good
news for peaceloving people everywhere.
Foolishness.........................
June 5 2005, 3:37 PM
Friends,
Are we here to speak filth about other faiths of this world? If yes then ironical as it may be, we are no different from the fanatics in Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc.
Our focus should be on how to keep such attrocities taking place in India- backed and sponsored by the Church in check, and I don't think such hate spewing remarks are going to help in any way.
Remember... Christians, Muslims are as Indian as Hindus !!!!!
We are one nation under the sun and lets not kill our democracy like this.
Matter of fact the Hindus themselves to some extent are to be blamed for the chaos that is now prevailing in our nation.
If one would make the effort to scroll up and read my last message, maybe one might understand.
We as a nation at this point of time cannot survive if there such intolerance among the people of different faiths.
Don't kill mother India!
Jai Hind
BaptistBeGone
Sick in the head
June 6 2005, 6:54 AM
christians and muslims should relax and
calm down.
They should try yoga. Read Buddhist
scriptures. Study Hindu philosophy.
Think, improve and refine themselves.
Be better tomorrow than today. Be at
peace with the world.
But they refuse to expand their horizons
and improve their minds.
Their religions keep them narrow-minded,
hypercharged and sick in the head.
Pope Bene Dickhead 10-5-1 is not in
proper condition. He's sick in the head.
Rupin
They are a nuisance
June 6 2005, 9:47 AM
christians have no concept of a person's
right to privacy. They keep coming back
to tell you the good news about their
phony christ and his gospel babble
of salvation even after being shooed away.
They can't see they are not wanted.
They can't see they are despised.
They can't see you want christianity dead.
Lalit
They are indeed
June 6 2005, 12:02 PM
I agree with Rupin. xians are a fkn nuisance.
Raghu
christ b gon
June 6 2005, 4:07 PM
We want christianity dead and gone from
India.
Rupin
Ghar Wapsi and social uplift programs
June 7 2005, 12:18 AM
None of the poor illegally converted to
christianity have seen any improvement
in their social or economic status. They
are just as poor and far more alienated
from the mainstream now than before.
They'll be happy to come back home to
their roots. Perhaps about 95 percent of
the converted christians will return to
thier original Hindu faith if Hindu social
service organizations, temples and
businesses reach out to them.
The cardinals, bishops, pastors and other
officials who now work as local peons for
their paymasters abroad will become
unemployed. Any remaining small christian
neighborhoods scattered here and there
across the country will be reabsorbed
into the Hindu fold.
Vasant
Xianity, the Pope, Christ and Teresa
June 10 2005, 8:58 AM
Message by: vasants
hindunationalists @yahoogroups.com
December 06, 2003
... the xian religion has borrowed practically everything from
other religions ... its holy book is a copy-and-paste job by
plagiarists ... the religion-makers of xianity were well aware
of the the Hindu Trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva and the
Buddhist Trinity of Buddha, Dharma and Sangha ... they
wanted to have a trinity of their own ... so they made up a
false one ...
more than a hundred sayings, teachings, parables,
stories and descriptions of events in the pages of the new
testament are copies or rewrites from Hindu-Buddhist
literature ...
xianity is a me-too religion ... it's not an original or authentic
religion like Hinduism or Buddhism ...
the xian religion makes no sense when it tries to write
something on its own about philosophical subjects ... this is
how it describes its holy trinity:
"the father" the inscrutable
"the son" the inexplicable, and
"the holy ghost" the incomprehensible
in the years immediatley following Independence,
our country continued to be very weak ... we also a
had a poor leader in Nehru as our first Prime Minister
during more than 15 of those crucial years of transition ...
teresa of albania came to Kolkata during the years
just before Independence and later founded the missionaries
of charity in 1950 ... Nehru also allowed missionaries from
penal colonies like new zealand and australia to come and
set up their conversion business in the Northeast ...
the upshot of letting in descendants of convicted crooks,
criminals and muderers from down under - who attracted
more like them from other foreign countries - to preach xianity
is in evidence today in many parts of the Northeast where
xians have established a reign of terror using methods similar
to those of islamic extremists ...
xianity falsely presents itself as a friend of the underclass
and as a religion of peace and charity - features it borrowed
from Buddhism and other faiths ... the true nature of xianity is
best revealed in the words of mr. christ himself:
Think not that I am come to send peace
on earth: I came not to send peace but
a sword... I am come to send fire on the
earth ... I came not to give peace but
rather division ...
I am come to set a man at variance
against his father, and the daughter against
her mother, and the daughter in law against
her mother in law ...
And the brother shall deliver up the brother
to death, and the father the child: and the
children shall rise up against their parents,
and cause them to be put to death ...
He that keepeth my works unto the end, to
him will I give power over the nations: And
he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the
vessels of a potter shall they be broken to
shivers ...
Those mine enemies, which would not
that I should reign over them, bring hither,
and slay them before me ...
financed by foreign churches, xians in the Northeast have
been putting these words into action for many decades ...
and instructing them in xianity as christ himself taught
it, are their lunatic brothers from Goa and Kerala ...
xians of Goa and Kerala, it seems, have not yet heard that
it took the Indian Military a day and a half to throw the
portuguese out in December 1961... they still behave like
captives identifying with their captors ... frequently we read
about their bishops going abroad to pick up their paychecks
where they bow and scrape before deranged churchmen
who run the conversion business ... then they come
back home and spend their waking hours figuring out how
to damage our country where they live ... their destructive
work earns them more money from the aforementioned
half-crazed goons on their next visit abroad ... the
pope is their chief instigator ... many countries do not like
the pope at all ... he's not allowed to set foot on their
soil ... but our post-colonial Govt maintains diplomatic
relations with the vatican... successive governments since
1947 have carried on many similar colonial policies without
a review ... it's time for the Govt to withdraw its recognition
of the vatican city as an independent state whose entire
population of about 911 in July 2003 is nothing but ignorant
and obnoxious xian clergy ... the vatican's annual revenues
now total about 800 crore rupees most of which goes for
perpetuating a false christ through incessant propaganda
and spreading venom about other faiths ... it makes little
sense to have diplomatic relations with an entity filled with
hostility toward other nations that possess vastly superior
intellectual, philosophical and religious traditions ... the
vatican is of no use or relevance to us ...
people have observed that teresa, the blessed one, had very
large, rough hands in relation to her small stature ... her hands
were not those of a normal woman her age ... they looked like
something grafted on to her from a very large roughhewn man ...
crooks and dictators seeking social status or a reduction in
their prison sentence in court cases looked to the church for
testimonials in exchange for money ... teresa was their friend ...
her large hands came in handy in carryng large sums of money
the crooks gave her and deliver it to her favorite pope in rome ...
the money she brought him is behind the interest the pope has
shown in pushing for her beatification and possibly
sainthood ... the pope and the nun may also have been
geriatric lovers ... a spin in his popemobile and a little bit of
xian luv whenver she visited him cannot be ruled out ... he's
almost dead, and she's dead, but his ardor for her has not
cooled judging from the speed with which he proceeded to
beatify her ...
so what's this pope to us? ... nothing ... what about xianity? ...
zero, zip city... and what about christ? ... christ is
a fictitious, literary creation ... he never was ... but some people
think he was a fisherman and he liked to eat dead, rotting fish ...
and he had bad breath and stunk like hell ... they say it's true
because toothpaste, mouthwash and soap are not
mentioned in the xian holy book ...
by contrast, Hindu holy books recommend that you keep
yourself meticulously clean by bathing five times a day ...
Manu Dharma Shastra also gives instructions for a perfect
cleaning of your private parts ... the ancients stressed
cleanliness ...
Vasant
The Saint-making Pope and the Blessed Nun
June 11 2005, 9:09 AM
Message by: vasants
hindunationalists @yahoogroups.com
November 18, 2003
... you already know about the bogus miracle claims and the
beatification of teresa by the pope ... the pope lost
his mind to illness long ago with no help from his miracle-worker,
namely, mr. christ ... even a hail of assassin's bullets in 1981
couldn't finish him off ... his bad karma intervened to
keep him alive ... his physical agony continues ... the churchman
is wasting away ... his faith has let him down ... he's been racked
by disease his whole dreary life ... xians claim their
religion is centered on the passion or the sufferings of christ on the
cross ... if xianity is about suffering, then this pope's
a better xian than christ himself ... christ gave up the ghost quickly
on the cross ... he didn't suffer at all ... his was an easy, painless
death ... they used a few nails on him, someone stuck a sword in
his side and he fell silent ... this pope's been suffering for years ...
nothing can put an end to his suffering, it seems - not Parkinson's,
not bullets ...
a number of years ago, more and more catholics were leaving their
church to join other sects of xianity ... the pope was angered ... he
thundered that other denominations were wolves stealing his sheep ...
but his fury had no effect ... his sheep continued to desert him at a
high rate ... that angered him even more ... fearing a collapse
of his church, he and his advisors decided that catholicism could
only be saved by churning out more saints ... for a long time, most
saints had come from italy known for its crime families or they were
deviants, serial killers or mass murderers from neighboring europe ...
making saints from more and more countries around the world,
the pope and his gang believed, would make their brand of xianity
acceptable to more and more people ... this is the idea behind the
beatification of teresa of albania and reported plans to make her a
saint in record time ...
according to vatican data, in the 390 years between 1588 and
1978, 299 catholic saints were canonized ... elected in 1978,
this pope has cranked out 477 saints in just 25 years ... that's
about one new catholic saint every 19 days ... he's beatified 1324 ...
that's about 1 blessed every 7 days ... if 10 drunken catholics drove
off the road into a ditch and died, the pope would declare them
martyrs and there would be 10 more new saints ... he may be a
saint-maker but he is losing his flock ... they are disgusted ... while
he's busy manufacturing saints, his priests are busy molesting
children and engaging in unnatural sex acts with young men
attending the church ... churches have degenerated into
swamps of immorality and dens of illegality ... they're man-boy love
clubs ... law enforcement should just shut them down ...
now let's look at some facts about this blessed woman from albania
and her organization ... who are the missionaries of charity? ...
they are our own women ... they are the ones who are tending to
the terminally ill ... they are the ones who are caring for the sick
and the destitute ... they are the ones who have dedicated their
lives to helping the downtrodden ... they are the real saints ...
teresa was no saint ... she was a witch ... she didn't need a
costume, make-up or a broom ... she looked like a witch
without the accessories ... once, the church used to burn
witches ... now it uses them in the conversion business ...
so what was her mission in Kolkata? ... to raise money abroad
in the name of the city's poor and deliver it to the pope in rome who
in turn paid his medieval churchmen to keep expanding the empire
by converting the uninformed, the weak and the poor ... to achieve
his goal, the pope instructs his field workers to use intimidation,
terror in the community, instant bribes, and false promises of jobs
and housing which never materialize ...
charity, love, compassion and magnanimity are Buddhist
teachings and ideals ... they have nothing to do with xianity ...
xianity did not originate them ...
what exactly then is xianity in India about? ...
xianity is about attacking and denigrating other faiths far superior to
itself... it's about intolerance, aggression, crime and terror as in the
Northeast ... it's about loss of identity, poor self-image,
self-hatred, and servility to foreign church masters as in Goa
and Kerala ... it's about the converted despising their ancestry and
the land of their birth ... xianity in India is not about religion at all
but about alienation, exterritorial loyalty and antinational behavior ...
in short, it's about lies, propaganda, conversions to increase numbers,
expansionism, destabilization, and eventual territorial and political
control ...
quotations from their national literature to highlight the tolerance
and inclusive nature of their religion are popular with many Hindus ...
let's review a few of them:
"The world is one family." ... "All distinctions among men are
man-made." .... "All paths lead to the same God." ... "The
Truth is one, the sages call it by many names." ...
"Help the hungry, homeless man on the road in search of food
and make him a lifelong friend." ...
the point that's missed is that these views and sentiments
were expressed by their authors at a time when there was no
high religion anywhere else in the world ... it was at a time long
before christ, allah, muhammad and their devilish kind appeared
on the scene ... ancient thinkers and teachers had no violent
encounters with xianity and islam which had not yet come into
being ...
when they said "All paths lead to the same God" they had
in mind the various systems of Indian philosophy and yoga ...
when they said "The Truth is one" they were
thinking of Nirguna Brahman ... when they told us "The sages
call it by many names" they were respecting the concept
and worship of Ishta Devatas ...
in the present context of islam and xianity in India and our
experience with them, it would be wise not to misinterpret and
misapply the teachings of our great ancient seers ...
BaptistBeGone
Not w/ x's and m's in it
June 12 2005, 8:45 AM
"The world is one family." The family of
human beings.
It can't be. Not with xians and muslims
in it.
xians live in an unbalanced, distorted and
maladjusted world of their own. So do the
muslims.
BaptistBeGone
Not so
June 13 2005, 6:30 AM
"All paths lead to the same God."
Not so.
islam promises sex with minors watersports
ac/dc s/m gangbang group sex porn paradise
for true believers.
xian practitioners go to eternal hell from
which there is no escape.
BaptistBeGone
Not so again
June 13 2005, 8:13 AM
"The Truth is one, the sages call it by
many names."
Not so.
There is no god but allah screams the
unhinged muslim world.
There is no savior but christ bellows
the sick world of xianity.
Rupin
Great deal
June 13 2005, 9:10 AM
I like allah. He gives the best deal
for muslims as regards the paradise
after death.
christ sucks.
BaptistBeGone
Only martyrs
June 13 2005, 4:04 PM
Only suicide bombers and jihadi martyrs
are admitted into allah's porn heaven.
Other muslims are just dumped into an
unmarked grave upon death and forgotten.
No paradise of any kind for them.
Lalit
Antinational christians bringing in foreign undesirables for illegal conversion activities
Four US nationals to be deported for violating visa rules
Mumbai, June. 13 (PTI): Four US nationals, who were assaulted by a group of people in western suburb of Malad on Saturday night on suspicion that they were Christian missionaries involved in conversion, would be deported for violating visa rules, police said today.
Police suspect that the four US nationals had come to Mumbai with some specific mission and "their visit to Malad to address a congregation did not appear to be as simple as it meets the eye".
The US nationals, Philip Allan, Clover Edward, Richard Jenal and an unidentified person, were questioned by the Special Branch sleuths today, before police decided to deport them for violation of visa rules.
The action came after the local police station in Malad submitted a report to the Special Branch.
"The four US nationals will be deported by the next available flight for violation of visa conditions," Additional Police Commissioner (Special Branch), Bipin Bihari, told PTI without elaborating further.
A Special Branch official said that Philip Allan, one of the four US nationals, has a multiple-entry visa and frequently visited India and neighbouring Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
"He is not a business traveller and therefore his frequent visits to India and adjoining countries raises suspicion in the backdrop of the Malad incident," the official said.
Police said the role of a school teacher from Malad, who had arranged the congregation in which the US nationals had participated, was also being probed.
Apart from these four US nationals, there were four more US nationals who were present at the congregation, police said adding that they, however, left India yesterday.
"We would have questioned them too, but laxity on the part of the local police helped them to leave the country," a Special Branch official said.
The official said that prima facie, it could not be substantiated whether the four US nationals belonged to any religious organisation or had visited Mumbai to propagate their religion.
"Yet, there is something fishy about their visit which needs to be probed further," the official said.
The US nationals were attending a congregation on Saturday night, when a group of people allegedly assaulted them. Two persons were arrested in this connection but were released by a local court later.
Special Branch officials, however, denied that VHP or Shiv Sena members were involved in the assault. "This appears to be a spontaneous reaction from the Malvani residents, who thought the congregation was meant for conversions," police said.
Lalit
Antinational christians in cahoots with foreign undesirables
By: PTI
June 14, 2005
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Three Christian missionaries from the United States were deported in the early hours of today for violating visa rules.
The police said that Philip Craig Allen, Clover Steve Edwards and Richard Wayne Jenel were put on flight lx 155 at 1.00 am. The trio were part of a team on a tourist visa and they had violated the rules by indulging in preaching.
They were attacked by a group at Malwani village in Malad, suspecting that the missionaries were indulging in conversions. As the trio could not give convincing answers, the authorities had decided yesterday to deport them.
In the attack on June 11, Allen and Edwards had suffered minor injuries and Jenel who was abducted by the group was later released. Two people have been arrested in connection with the incident. The duo had secured bail.
Lalit
Foreign tourists preaching junk christianity abetted by local junk churches
MALVANI: SUSPECTED OF CONVERSIONS, VILLAGERS ATTACK THEM; TWO ARRESTED, RELEASED AIL
US preachers to be deported
Shriya Bhagwat
Mumbai, June 13: Three American preachers, attacked on Sunday in Malad by an angry mob that suspected they were converting locals to Christianity, will now be deported.
‘‘Reports from the Malwani police indicate they were indulging in preaching activities despite holding tourist visas,’’ said a senior police official handling the case. ‘‘This violates visa rules and they will be deported on the first available flight to the US.’’
The three attacked were part of a group of eight American preachers who came to India.
While four of the eight have voluntarily returned (taking with them one of those attacked), the other four were at the Foreigners Registration Office, Crawford Market, and were tight-lipped about the incident.
‘‘We have forgiven and forgotten about the incident,’’ said Craig Philip. ‘‘We want to drop it.’’
Dr Abraham Mathai, general secretary of the All India Christian Committee, feels the deportation is based on inaccurate reports sent by the Malwani police station.
‘‘There is a difference between teaching and preaching. These people were only teaching,’’ Mathai said. ‘‘These people were beaten up by communal goons and now face the indignity of being deported like criminals.’’
The preachers belong to the Church of Christ in North Carolina and were to be in India for three weeks.
The trouble began when they were invited to deliver a lecture at the vacation Bible classes conducted by Usha John, a resident of Malwani village, Malad.
‘‘This is not a political matter,’’ John said on June 12. ‘‘Some children present in the class were Hindu and others Christian and there was no problem for the past six days—today suddenly there was a riot.’’
The accused in the case, Bharath Koli and Rajesh Keni were charged with house trespass, assault or wrongful restraint, offences against public tranquility, rioting and voluntarily causing hurt. They were released on bail on June 12.
Local residents insisted they suspected conversions were being carried out in the area by luring locals with money and miracle cures.
‘‘People here, especially the Kolis are being lured with money and miracles,’’ said Vinod Tambekar (name changed). Other villagers also claim the 30-odd people present on the evening of the incident were outsiders, not locals.
Officers at the Malwani police station did not rule out the possibility of conversions happening in the area and said even if there was any truth to the allegations, they needed a formal complaint to be lodged at the police station in order to take action.
‘‘I have been praying to Jesus for the last year,’’ said Arvind Bhandari, a resident of the village.
Bhandari was introduced to the Bible by his Catholic neighbours after a heart attack last year.
“Earlier, a baptism was needed to be able to pray to Jesus, nowadays we don’t even need that,’’ he said. “That’s what the priest at the prayer says too.’’
The rules of religion
Under Article 25 of the Constitution, every one is equally entitled to freely profess, practise and propagate their religion.
According to a Supreme Court judgement, a person can change religion by marriage, adoption or voluntary conversion. However, the benefits of the changed religion cannot be availed.
You may ask if christianity is so venomous
why it hasn't killed christian nations.
christian nations are like pit vipers and
coral snakes. The snake is the host. It
produces the venom. The host doesn't die.
The victim it strikes dies.
christianity is a profoundly neurotoxic
religion. Help stamp it out.
Gaurav Sharma
This doesn't help
June 16 2005, 4:10 PM
Oh come on guys!
Abusing another faith like this won't help. What can we do to solve the problem is the concern.
Christologist
christ fears truth
June 17 2005, 8:25 AM
In the new testament the xian holy book
mr.christ says:
I am the lie, the wrong way and everlasting
blight.
BaptistBeGone
Freedom from truth
June 17 2005, 10:02 AM
He also says:
The lies shall set you free.
Christologist
Big liar
June 17 2005, 8:12 PM
christ is the father of the lie.
BaptistBeGone
Lies, lies and more lies
June 18 2005, 5:47 AM
"I am the lie and the lie shall set you free."
Money, propaganda, aggression, predation. The
false is true. The lie always triumphs. That
is the foundation of christianity.
Christologist
xian god sends son to stir up strife
June 19 2005, 9:55 AM
From that work of plagiarists also known as the
new testament, here's the "gospel in miniature":
For xian god so hated the world that he
gave his one and only unbegotten son, that
whoever believes in him shall cause eternal
strife with a sharp sword with two edges.
Rupin
A theological question
June 20 2005, 6:41 AM
Why is christ xian god's "one and only
unbegotten son"?
Shouldn't it be "one and only begotten
son"?
Christologist
xian theology explained
June 20 2005, 8:44 AM
xian theology can confuse even the experts.
xian god has no consort. christ was not
sired by natural procreation by his father.
That would make him naturally begotten.
christ is unbegotten. That means he
coexisted with his father. His father was
there from the beginning, so was christ.
His father sent him down here in human
form. But christ was really an asexual,
spiritual being without sex organs,
xian theologians believe.
BaptistBeGone
More xian theology
June 22 2005, 8:12 AM
Both father & son are uncreated. That means
they were not created by any process known
to man. If you go back to the beginning of
things, the father was there and the son was
right there with him.
This is known as uncreationism in xian
science.
Theology and science mean nearly the same
thing in xianity. The words are often used
interchangeably.
You should also learn about exorcism.
It is a religious term meaning xian
medical science. It cures physiological,
physical, emotional and spiritual problems
and usually leaves the patient dead. It works
on the principle that dead people have no
problems.
Uncreationism and exorcism are found only
within xianity making it a unique product.
BaptistBeGone
No space for xianity or islam
June 24 2005, 2:13 PM
In the empire of the intellect and the land of Rama, Krishna, Buddha,
the Vedas, the Upanishads, the Gita, the Mahabharata, the Tripitaka,
the Tirukural and countless other timeless works, islam and xianity
are worthless and irrelevant. According to a recent government
estimate, there may be up to five million ancient Sanskrit
manuscripts around the country, waiting to be transferred to modern
digital storage media for preservation and translation.
islam and xianity are not religions but violent political movements.
Their goal in our country is to grab Hindu land and wealth, and
acquire political power.
Our constitution was written by substandard, intellectually
challenged hacks. They had no understanding of who we are, our
ancient traditions, our recent history and the destruction it has
inflicted on a Hindu-Buddhist subcontinent, or how to shape
the new nation's future. These hacks in fact belonged to the
Congress Party that has ruled most of the last 58 years and
continues to be in power causing damage to the nation every
day aided by communists, criminals, serial killers, xians and
muslims.
Three times in a row, the Congress Party has elected an
illiterate Italian shudra woman as its leader. It is now
supposedly looking at her half-Italian shudra son with no
accomplishment in any field or national service to lead it
into the future.
Under a future new constitution, the highest national positions
can only be held by native-born citizens whose parents will
also have to be native-born citizens. Further, their spouses
will also have to be of Indian parentage born in India. The
military generally follows this rule. The rundown, woebegone
Congress Party, a collection of miserable servants and washroom
attendants, does not and continues to humiliate and degrade
the nation every day.
In a future new constitution, islam and xianty will be
specifically derecognized as religions. Foreign money now
coming in to sustain their antinational operations will be
blocked or confiscated.
Our Hindu-Buddhist civilization has no space for them.
Christologist
Derecognize them
June 26 2005, 8:14 AM
Wiggers' xianity and arab islam should
be derecognized and stripped of their
status as religions.
Lalit
Half Italian
June 26 2005, 9:34 AM
The half-Italian shudra son will probably
go the way of his phony father.
BaptistBeGone
Not a ban
June 27 2005, 9:03 AM
Derecognition does not mean a ban. It
means they will have no official status
as bona fide faiths.
muslims and xians will have complete
freedom of worship.
A muslim can scream "no god but allah"
all he wants.
A xian can thunder "no savior but christ"
until he goes out of his mind.
But ...
Construction of new mosques and churches
will be forbidden.
Foreign money to madrasas and churches
will be blocked.
The local law enforcement will have the
right to enter mosques and churches if
there is sufficient evidence to believe
they are being used to store weapons and
ammunition.
No foreign mullas and deranged xian
preachers will be allowed into the
country.
There will be no special privileges to
xian and muslim educational institutions
or hospitals. Admissions to academic
institutions and employment in buisness
and industry wil be based on merit and
not based on religion as is the case now
in xian and muslim run universities and
enterprises.
There will be a nationwide ban on
conversion of poor people to xianity or
islam. Exploitation of poverty will not
be permitted.
Conversion to a foreign religion of one's
own free will, such as by people with at
least 4 years of college and decent jobs,
will be considered voluntary and will be
accepted.
xians and muslims who want to return
to their ancestral roots will be encouraged
to do so. Depending on their means, they
will have financial assistance from the
Hindu government in addition to any support
they may receive from private organizations.
Christologist
What kind of man was christ: a vigilante, a pyromaniac
June 28 2005, 10:04 AM
Luke 22:36
... he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Luke 12:49
I am come to send fire on the earth.
Christologist
... and a jihadi leader like OBL
June 28 2005, 10:28 AM
Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
Christologist
He came to divide people and destroy families
June 28 2005, 9:26 PM
Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but
rather division.
Matthew 10:36
...a man's foes shall they be of his own household.
Luke 12:52
...from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against
two, and two against three.
Matthew 10:35
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter
against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:21
And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the
child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them
to be put to death.
Christologist
He cursed everything and everyone he didn't like
June 29 2005, 5:45 AM
christ was hungry and looked around for something to eat.
He saw a fig tree some distance away. But it was not the
season of figs yet. Being out of season, the tree bore only
leaves but no fruit. Here's what happened.
Matthew 21:19-20
And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it,
and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said
unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for
ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled,
saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!
Mark 11:13-14 , 11:20-21
And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came,
if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he
came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of
figs was not yet.
And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit
of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig
tree dried up from the roots.
And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master,
behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered
away.
CONCLUSION: This shows that christ and and his
disciples were a bunch of dickheads.
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christ would a put a curse on people and call them
names if they held views different from his
own. Here are a few samples.
Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye
escape the damnation of hell?
Matthew 24:27
Woe to you, scribes and ... hypocrites!
Luke 10:13-15
Woe unto thee ... it shall be more tolerable for
Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you.
And thou ... shalt be thrust down to hell.
Revelation 2:12
These things saith he which hath the sharp sword
with two edges.
Christologist
He was Jack the Ripper and a baby killer
June 29 2005, 6:55 AM
Revelation 2:20-23
... I have a few things against thee, because
thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which
calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to
seduce my servants to commit fornication, and
to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
And I gave her space to repent of her
fornication; and she repented not.
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them
that commit adultery with her into great
tribulation, ...
And I will kill her children with death ...
Christologist
Three swords
June 30 2005, 6:15 AM
christ was always ready for a fight and
fought his adversaries not only with a
a sword in each hand but also a third one
in his mouth.
Revelation 2:16
I will come ..., and will fight against
them with the sword of my mouth.
BaptistBeGone
Screwing and slaying power
June 30 2005, 9:36 AM
Before his crucifixion, christ had instructed his disciples
that they draw blood and cut flesh from his body, preserve
them and send some to every church to be built in his name
in the future. He had promised that the blood and flesh will
replenish themselves and "multiply".
Every evangelist, pastor, missionary doing illegal
conversions, preacher on tourist visa, tsunami relief worker
and xian NGO volunteer, goes to his church and eats and
drinks some of this stuff before setting out on his daily
mission.
christ had said:
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, shall
have everlasting screwing and slaying power.
For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
Rupin
christ: my flesh is meat and my blood is drink
June 30 2005, 10:05 PM
Pope Rat's Ass Inger XVI must be pigging out on christ's
flesh and blood every day.
Christologist
christ was a psychotic on psychedelic drugs
July 1 2005, 12:38 PM
A warmonger on hallucinogens, christ wanted everyone
dead except the deranged ones he called the elect.
Matthew 24:6-7; Matthew 24:40-41; Matthew 24:19;
Luke 21:23-24; Matthew 24:51; Mark 13:19;
Matthew 24:21; Mark 13:20; Matthew 24:22;
Mark 13:20; Mark 13:24-27
... ye shall hear of wars ...
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against
kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences,
and earthquakes, in divers places.
Then shall be two in the field; the one shall be taken,
and the other left.
Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall
be taken, and the other left.
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that
give suck, in those days!
... for there shall be great distress in the land, and
wrath upon this people.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall
be led away captive into all nations ...
there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
For in those days shall be affliction ...
then ... great tribulation ...
no flesh should be saved ...
And except those days should be shortened, there
should no flesh be saved ...
but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he
hath shortened the days.
... after that tribulation ... shall he send his
angels, and shall gather together his elect from
the four winds, from the uttermost part of the
earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
Rupin
Insane messiah
July 1 2005, 7:52 PM
Wiggers' christ was a madman.
First step towards containment of forced conversions
Christologist has pointed out that Revelation 2:26-28
and Luke 19:27 show that christ was a madman with
an iron rod.
We know that christ is a fictional figure and the new
testament was put together by plagiarists. The story
of christ is not even original fiction. Anything of
substance and merit in it has been stolen from
Hindu-Buddhist literature and other world sources.
xianity is a profoundly false religion.
Whatever the current inflated figure of xians around
the world is, it is large. And xians are thoroughly
ignorant about the origins of their gospels and the
sources used by gospel writers. They do not know
that when they quote famous passages from their new
testament, they are in fact quoting them from
Hindu-Buddhist literature. Hindus and Buddhists do
not know this either. Scholars do. Scholars know the
religious and intellectual history of the world. They
know that the new testament was manufactured by
literary pirates.
Money, propaganda and pervasive worldwide ignorance
are some of the reasons for the spread of a thoroughly
false religion like xianity. Poverty in many parts of
the world is another. Until the second world war,
xianity spread mainly through armed conquest,
genocide, terror and subjugation.
Ghar Wapsi, social uplift programs, education and
the spread of knowledge about our own history and
traditions through acquisition and use of print and
electronic media are our best weapons for
eradicating detestable xianity.
Rupin
Show disapproval
July 3 2005, 10:05 AM
xianity is detestable, all right.
P on it.
BaptistBeGone
Show strong disapproval
July 3 2005, 9:05 PM
P on p i s s-christ.
Shoot some holy water on the pope too.
Hindus
July 4 2005, 1:26 AM
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BaptistBeGone
India is for us
July 5 2005, 8:15 AM
For peace, harmony, rapid modernization,
economic and social progress, and a
citizenry that reveres the nation and
respects the laws of the land, we need a
new constitution that says that India is
for Indian religionists only.
BaptistBeGone
A clarification
July 5 2005, 8:40 AM
An Indic or Indian religionist in the new
constitution will be defined as one who is
not a xian or a muslim.
Christologist
christ's father bred deadly snakes and trained fierce beasts to kill
July 6 2005, 7:53 AM
Vengeance and mass murder were a favorite pastime
of christ's father. Among other things, he used deadly
snakes and fierce beasts in this pleasurable sport. From
the holy bible:
And ... [he] sent fiery serpents among the people, and
they bit the people; and much people ... died.
They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with
burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also
send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the
poison of serpents of the dust.
For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among
you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite
you ...
[he sent] a multitude of unreasonable beasts upon
them for vengeance ...
the horrible fierceness of beasts came upon these, and
they perished with the stings of crooked serpents ...
[he sent] teeth of wild beasts, and scorpions, serpents, and the
sword punishing [them] to destruction.
Christologist
christ: I'll protect you from my father's serpents
July 6 2005, 8:36 AM
[those who believe in me] shall take up serpents; and if they
drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay
hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and
scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing
shall by any means hurt you.
Cautionary advice: Don't try any of this at home.
BaptistBeGone
Controlling xian population growth
July 7 2005, 7:11 AM
Send scorpions, serpents, cockatrices, the teeth of
fiery beasts and the sword wherever xians live.
Send cerastes and fer-de-lance for good measure.
That'll bring their numbers down.
BaptistBeGone
Cyanide kills christ
July 7 2005, 10:38 AM
Ask misfits who call themselves missionaries,
ask p i s s-christ preachers, and ask turd
burglars known as televangelists to drink
cyanide-laced punch to prove their faith in
christ.
They will all be dead.
Christologist
More crooked than a corkscrew
July 8 2005, 8:12 AM
Televangelists are deceivers. They mock at their god
because they know he does not exist.
A seriously mental Christ said: Those who believe in
me shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly
thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the
sick, and the sick shall recover.
Televangelists make money by claiming their faith
in christ has given them the power to lay hands on
the sick and cure them.
But these turds will not drink poison although the
same christ also said "it shall not hurt them." They
invoke and profit from his name when it is convenient.
They know he is false. He never was. They are not
going to drink deadly poison and commit suicide.
Their conduct is guided by the motto:
Screw christ, make money.
Rupin
Father too
July 8 2005, 6:45 PM
christ's father would be dead too if he
drank punch spiked with cyanide.
BaptistBeGone
christ is a 0
July 12 2005, 7:20 AM
christ is a no-good nonentity. Other than the new testament,
a plagiarists' work, not a word about him can be found
anywhere in any writings of any historian who lived at the
same time he's supposed to have lived. Nothing about him
can be found in Roman state records of the time either.
You find his story only in the new testament, and no mention
of him anywhere else in contemporary sources.
He's a crude attempt by religion-makers of xianity to
create a fictional messiah who supposedly came to fulfil
prophesies of the old testament.
In the process of creating an imaginary savior foretold
by old testament prophets, the plagiarists also drew
heavily from world religious and spiritual literature
to fabricate a composite character based on the lives,
teachings and legends of Krishna, Buddha, Horus, Vedic
god Mitra and other historical and mythical figures.
BaptistBeGone
Prophecies of the old and new testaments
July 13 2005, 10:48 AM
We gather from one source that there are some
300 prophecies about the first coming of christ
the messiah and another 500 or so about his
second coming - all recorded in the old
testament.
christ the suffering messiah is believed to have
fulfilled many of them during his first coming.
So to fulfill the rest of them from the old testament
and new ones in the new testament to be fulfilled
in the future, xians are given these promises:
Behold I am coming soon!
The coming of christ is at hand.
Expect christ to return at any time.
Watch and be ready.
Be ready for the return of the son of man.
The lord is coming soon. Redeem the time.
christ is coming soon. Expect to be resurrected from
the dead.
I will return and establish my kingdom within your liftetime.
CONCLUSION: He never was. He never died. He'll never come back.
Then apparently in an effort to cover his prophetic ass,
gospel writers have this prevaricator say:
You cannot know the date of my return.
No one knows the day nor the hour of christ's return.
Watch because you do not know when the lord will return.
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
heaven, nor christ himself.
When the lord comes, he will come like a thief in the night.
CONCLUSION: He was a false christ, a false prophet, a
nothing messiah, a Kali Yuga deceiver created by
copy-and-paste literary thieves who did not even bother
to read the tripe they wrote.
BaptistBeGone
christ and muhammad: archfiends of the Kali Yuga
July 14 2005, 10:25 AM
This is the Kali Yuga - the age of sin, greed, lawlessness,
violence, discord between neighbors, enmity between
nations and war. Righteousness is plummeting. Moral
depravity is gaining.
xianity with its false doctrines built around a false redeemer
is a major cause of all the conflicts and negative vibrations
in the world.
This belligerent creed must die. Another that lives on terror
namely muhammad's islam must also die.
Their demise will usher in the golden Krita Yuga - the age
of virtue, enlightenment, peace and prosperity.
Christologist
Used car salesman
July 17 2005, 10:34 AM
About his second coming, christ says to his sect's followers:
Behold, I am coming soon!
I will resurrect you from the dead.
l will return and establish my kingdom within your lifetime.
Then he turns right around and says:
You cannot know the date of my return.
No one knows the day nor the hour of my return, not me,
not even the angels in heaven.
When I come, I will come quite unexpectedly, like a thief
in the night.
You can see he was a liar. A wimp, a waffler. He was no
leader. Forget about the hyperbolic messiah, savior, redeemer,
liberator, that kind of stuff wiggervangelists throw around
about him.
He's like a used car salesman who turns the mileage back
on cars to fool you they're less driven.
At one place in the holy book, out of the blue, just like that,
without any relevant context, the used car salesman says:
You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Can you believe anything this guy says? Of course, not.
Rupin
Don't let him escape
July 18 2005, 8:41 AM
christ describes his next visit to earth thus:
When I come, I will come quite unexpectedly like
a thief in the night.
To which we say:
Catch the thief. Give him jail time.
BaptistBeGone
christ-math, christ-science: garbage in, garbage out
July 21 2005, 10:19 AM
With astounding precision, a 17th century churchman, linguist and
religious scholar, calculated that planet Earth was created at dusk
before Sunday 23 October 4004 BCE.
Another profound biblical scholar who lived at the same time
made it even more precise: Sunday 23 October 4004 BCE at
nine in the morning.
Now christendom appears to be blessed with another genius. A
newspaper story of 19 July 2005 says that a xian professor
from a renowned university has just claimed that christ was
resurrected by his father in heaven with a probability of 97 percent.
The professor a leading philosopher of religion, according to the
story, performed complex calculations using probability calculus.
We think the fictional christ and his nonexistent father are the
inspiration behind the self-deluded professor's mathematical feat.
With this kind of math, logic and science, it's no wonder people
in xian countries are losing hitech jobs and their economies are
fast declining.
Christologist
Resurrection calculus
July 22 2005, 10:28 AM
The professor is a philosopher of the xian religion.
He believes that christ will resurrect him from the dead
in the same manner christ's father raised his son from
the tomb.
What can we say about this professor? He sounds
like a clinical idiot who can't tell his ass from his elbow.
With a certainty of 97% and a shade of doubt only 3%,
we can say he used his ass in carrying out his complex
calculations.
There are extensive borrowings in the new
testament from Hindu-Buddhist literature.
An earlier post in this thread put the
number of specific borrowings at more than
120.
The page below has an article with a few
good examples.
christ: a double-tongued, double-faced, double-dealing messiah
August 1 2005, 3:12 PM
christ, the deceiver, says one thing at certain times and exactly
the opposite at other times. He practices situational ethics and
moral relativism. There are many examples of his duplicitous
declarations and erratic behavior. Here are some utterances
of this lying messiah who talks from both sides of his mouth and
whistles out the middle.
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Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
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Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
I am come to send fire on the earth.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace but a sword.
Ye shall hear of wars.
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in
divers places.
There shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon the people.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword.
For in those days shall be affliction and great tribulation.
No one will be saved except the elect whom I have chosen.
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Let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever
is more than these cometh of evil. Bless them that curse you.
Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
Woe to you, scribes and ... hypocrites! Fools and blind ones!
Woe unto thee ... it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon
at the judgment, than for you.
And thou ... shalt be thrust down to hell.
These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges.
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Swear not at all. Do not curse.
It was not the season of figs. A hungry christ looking for something
to eat walked up to a fig tree and finding no fruit on it cursed it,
and promptly the tree withered away. That's vile and nasty, but
befitting Satan's only begotten son, who came not in word only but
also in power.
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Love your enemies. Do good to them that hate you.
I will come and fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
My enemies will be made my footstool.
Those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over
them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
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Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman
Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce
my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto
idols.
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented
not.
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery
with her into great tribulation ...
And I will kill her children with death.
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Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Follow me, and let the dead bury their dead.
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Agree with your adversary quickly.
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
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The ordinary people were astonished at christ's doctrine and his power to
work miracles. In the temple, the chief priests and the learned scribes
asked him: By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave
thee this authority to do these things? And christ said to the temple
leaders, I cannot say by what authority I do these things.
Elsewhere, christ tells his dimwitted disciples, All power is given unto me
in heaven and in earth.
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I am come not to destroy but to fulfil.
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but
rather division.
A man's foes shall they be of his own household.
From henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against
two, and two against three.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter
against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the
child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them
to be put to death.
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Peace be unto you.
And he that...keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over
the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of
a potter shall they be broken to shivers...
And I will give him the morning star.
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Love all, not just those who love you. Salute all, not just your
brethren only.
christ went into a temple, and began to attack people who
had gathered there, and who bought and sold merchandise,
pet birds and livestock, and overthrew the tables of the
moneychangers and the seats of those that sold doves.
When he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all
out of the temple, and the sheep and the oxen; and poured out
the changers' money.
Comments: Using a temple building as a trading center was not
an uncommon practice in those days. If he wanted to change the
practice, he could have been polite, civilized and persuasive
about it and convinced them to change their ways. Instead, he
acts like a street ruffian and physically assaults people who
were simply trying to make a living.
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And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not:
for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me:
and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy
of me.
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not
worthy of me.
I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father,
but by me.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
believeth not shall be damned.
Comments: He's the wrong way, the lie, and everlasting blight.
He went against the authorities of the day and got nailed to the
cross. He was not smart enough to save his own ass, but this
megalomaniac says he'll save your ass and save the world.
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Behold, I am coming soon!
I will resurrect you from the dead.
I will return and establish my kingdom within your lifetime.
You cannot know the date of my return.
No one knows the day nor the hour of my return, not me,
not even the angels in heaven.
When I come, I will come quite unexpectedly, like a thief in
the night.
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Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive
many.
For false christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall
show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible,
even the elect.
Comments: Here, christ a major dissembler of the Kali Yuga,
is describing himself. The xian holy book records some
35 bogus signs, wonders and miracles this false prophet
supposedly performed. Among them: water made wine,
walking on sea, feeding five thousand with only five loaves
and two fish, raising the dead, healing the lame, the blind,
the deaf and curing other sufferers of various afflictions
and diseases, exorcizing the possessed - and similar
deceptions and seductions. christ, Satan's only begotten
son, was a spiritual whore and christendom is spiritual
whoredom built on the spurious signs, magic tricks, and
untrue miracles performed by him.
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BaptistBeGone
Out of the mouth of Kali Yuga's number one False Prophet
August 5 2005, 1:01 PM
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's
clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
CHRIST IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING:
"Wherever you enter into a house say first, 'May this
house have peace.'"
CHRIST UNMASKED IS A DERANGED MANIAC WITH NO INTELLIGENT PURPOSE:
A man's foes shall they be of his own household.
From henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against
two, and two against three.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter
against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the
child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them
to be put to death.
Christologist
The xian savior is not without an intelligent purpose
August 5 2005, 11:43 PM
Let's see. First christ wants peace in the house.
Then he wants the family living in it to beat each
other to death.
With the family dead, there will indeed be
peace in the house. Not the peace of the grave
but a special kind of eternal peace only christ and
his elect experience.
A xian family moves in and takes over the house.
It's now a xian house.
christ says: Rejoice and be exceedingly glad in the
name of the father which is in heaven.
This sums up how xianity expanded and acquired
territory and wealth through aggression, terror and
mass murder. muhammad merely emulated christ.
Rupin
xian savior's dubious distinction
August 6 2005, 9:18 AM
Kali Yuga's number one False Prophet.
Christologist
The False Prophet was also a quack
August 8 2005, 8:39 AM
christ didn't go to medical school. But this charlatan
could cure any disability, affliction or disease. He
also had a special talent: casting out devils from
the possessed.
Wonder of wonders, he could diagnose and treat any
problem without actually seeing the patient. The
patient could be living in a town many miles away.
christ could cure him remotely. A description of the
ill person's symptoms and condition from a relative
or a friend was all christ needed to provide remote
medical assistance and healing.
The following story thrills christendom like the one
about christ rising from the dead, but it's humdrum
like all stories about him.
christ SHOWS OFF ADVANCED REMOTE MEDICINE:
So Jesus came again into Cana of Galilee, where he
made the water wine. And there was a certain nobleman,
whose son was sick at Capernaum.
When he heard that Jesus was come out of Judaea
into Galilee, he went unto him, and besought him
that he would come down, and heal his son: for he was
at the point of death.
Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and
wonders, ye will not believe.
The nobleman saith unto him, Sir, come down ere my
child die.
Jesus saith unto him, Go thy way; thy son liveth.
And the man believed the word that Jesus had spoken
unto him, and he went his way.
And as he was now going down, his servants met him,
and told him, saying, Thy son liveth.
Then inquired he of them the hour when he began to
amend. And they said unto him, Yesterday at the
seventh hour the fever left him.
So the father knew that it was at the same hour,
in the which Jesus said unto him, Thy son liveth:
and himself believed, and his whole house.
This is again the second miracle that Jesus did,
when he was come out of Judaea into Galilee.
BaptistBeGone
christ was an all-around fraud
August 10 2005, 10:32 AM
Not a single miracle cure has ever been confirmed
scientifically.
Faith healers, sleight-of-hand psychic surgeons, and
spiritual doctors, are whores and frauds like christ.
The challenge is how to save the world from this
Kali Yuga shammer, his dogmas and his ignorant
followers.
BaptistBeGone
christ killed people who needed expert medical care
August 12 2005, 8:56 AM
It can be safely assumed that seriously ill people
purportedly cured by christ suffered permanent
damage or died a short time later. Perhaps within
days, weeks, or months afterwards. That's what
happens to people who go to faith healers instead
of seeking competent medical care.
The xian holy book or the Book of Lies does not
record deaths caused by its faith-healing messiah.
Truth and xianity are incompatible. They don't blend.
BaptistBeGone
Nasty christ spits on a blind man
August 16 2005, 6:23 AM
CHRIST PERFORMS STATE-OF-THE-ART EYE SURGERY ,
TELLS PATIENT TO LEAVE TOWN AND SAY NOTHING
ABOUT IT
From the xian holy book of deceit and delusions:
And christ cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind
man unto him, and besought him to touch him.
And christ took the blind man by the hand, and led him
out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and
put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.
And the blind man looked up, and said, I see men as
trees, walking.
After that christ put his hands again upon his eyes, and
made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every
man clearly.
And christ sent him away to his house, saying, Neither
go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.
BaptistBeGone
Gross!
August 17 2005, 8:19 AM
A revolting christ spits in a blind man's eyes to restore
his vision. And a billion or more xians believe in these
cockamamie stories about him and call him their savior.
He could have applied clean, clear water from a lake
and said a healing prayer, for example.
But the repugnant monkey messiah lacks even a
modicum of refinement.
Show your disgust. Spit on christ!
BaptistBeGone
Everything is condoned, accepted, justified
August 17 2005, 10:39 AM
In the xian religious system, anything goes.
Rape, murder, violence against women, sexual
abuse of children are all approved for the
gratification of the individual. If you do
these crimes insde a church building, you
enjoy immunity from prosecution.
xian societies boast the highest number of
raging criminals in every category roaming
the streets free. It's the nature of the
beast. Part and parcel of their religion that
says we are all sinners which is the
natural state of man or "The Devil made me do it."
You are absolved if you get baptized and accept
christ. There is no limit per customer of this
procedure and you can be born again and again.
This is a good religion for habitual criminals.
The idea that you are responsible for your actions,
you must sweat and strain throughout your life,
and improve yourself, is absent.
BaptistBeGone
christ and Satan are one
August 20 2005, 12:32 AM
christ and Satan are one,
he in Satan, Satan in him,
xians in christ, Satan in xians,
Tightly, tightly all are one.
Destined forever will all dwell,
In burning sulfur and fiery hell.
Christologist
Where is christ now?
August 21 2005, 10:45 AM
In hell. There with him are all dead xians. Apostles,
popes, theologians, kings, presidents, cathaholics,
bap s h i t s, evangelicals, clergy and the laity. In short,
all manner of sinners who professed and practiced
the xian faith in life on earth.
Hell is not where you'll meet interesting people, as some
would have it. There is no romance, gaiety, laughter or
even a moment of peace. Days and nights will be insomniac.
Your eyelids will always remain open. You will be unable
to close them and go to sleep. Your skin and eyes will
be burning. You will be vomiting all the time. You will
have chronic diarrhea. No medication is available to treat
it. All doctors in hell are terribly sick themselves.
christ himself will be perpetually suffering from a heart
condition and other ailments and infirmities and will not
be able to cure himself or anybody else.
There is no relief. There is no such thing as death
in hell to bring you peace. Only pain and suffering.
Distress and disorder of every function of the body
and mind will torment you. Without end.
When xians die, hell is where they go. And be
trapped there forever. All means of escape are
blocked.
If they desire to live in heaven they should reject
christ and the god of the bible and prevail upon
fellow xians to do the same.
Christologist
More on christ's condition in Hell
August 30 2005, 8:25 AM
christ went to Hell because he committed crimes against
humanity. He impersonated god. When it suited him, he
he was god's only son. He preached hate. He called upon
nations to rise and go to war against each other. His
followers have started every conflict in the world since his
death. Including two world wars in which xian nations
fought and almost wiped each other out. The bad news
is they are still standing.
Some deformed, wicked and medieval churches and their
operators are still engaged in spreading his war-making
religion.
christ has been in Hell for 2000 years now which has
taken a brutal toll on him.
He has lost his hearing. He is deaf. His right eye was
offending him so he plucked it out. Then his left eye
began to offend him and he yanked it out too. He can't
see now. He has lost his faculty of speech. He's unable
to speak now. That's good because he'll be never be
preaching his gospel again.
He has no hands. They withered and just fell off. He
also has an old heart problem.
When he lived on earth he used to boast, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth. He and his
co-conspirators also claimed then that he healed every
kind of disease and made people well, including raising
some from the dead.
The braggart who once made all kinds of fantastic
claims including one that he came to save the world
is now living in Hell in a vegetative state.
christ cannot call his father in heaven for help as
he used to do during his ministry in the Middle East.
The devils who run Hell have shut out all forms of
communication between the two including telepathy.
Hell is packed with xians. All around you see them
with missing limbs, bleeding profusely, covered with
pustules, screaming and writhing in pain.
There is no death. Because if a xian in Hell dies, he
will go to Hell anyway which means he will be right
back and resume in exactly the same condition at
the same spot he was at the moment of his death
which in effect means he did not die at all.
Hell knows only the science of punishment. It knows
no mercy. There are no rewards. You can't get out.
christ and dead xians are getting what they deserve.
Hell is giving it to them.
Avoid Hell. Reject christ. Leave xianity.
BaptistBeGone
Foreign funded conversion outfits
September 2 2005, 9:16 AM
Here are some foreign funded entities flouting
the laws of the land. They propagate junk xianity
and engage in illegal conversions. They have
names like:
Kali Yuga christ Church
Pope BeneDickhead Xian Yoga School
Cathaholic Ashram for Homo-erotic People
Rat's Ass Inger Theological Seminary
The Bap s h i t s Council for Conversions
7th Day Dentists - Free dental care, Saturdays only
Whorehouse of Our Lord
Evangelical Moneymaking Gospel Ministry
Man-Boy Love Church
YogaMoves for Beef Eaters
Pedophiles for Heesus
Serpent Handlers & Fearless Xians
The Church of Poison Drinkers
Blurred Vision International
Cannibals for Lord Zeesus
Wiggers Gospel Institute
Fake Healers Free Hospital - Get Healed, Get Converted
Screw 'em all Church
Kill 'em all Church
Doomsday Cultural Center
Second Coming 2005
Son of Satan Society
Missionaries for the Propagation of Xian Vices & Depravities
Sacred Church of the Risen Lord & Flying Pigs
The Risen Lord Lead Balloon Club
BaptistBeGone
Foreign money fans fires of secessionism and antinationalism
September 4 2005, 10:54 AM
Many churches and their operators have long been recipients
of money from foreign churches going back to colonial times.
The amount of money received was too small and scarcely
detectable in relation to the wealth and natural resources
plundered by the donors.
But even today, a dollar or pound travels far in dirt-poor
grandaddy of the third world that is India. Small amounts
from foreign churches acquire significant purchasing
power in this impoverished and overbreeding land. Churches
abroad thus are able to inflict major damage through local
agents - bishops, pastors and the like - with very small
expenditures on their part.
There are already calls for government control and
administration of foreign donations to churches and
madrassas. Churches and madrassas fan the fires of
secessionism and antinationalism. xianity and islam
in India have nothing to do with religion. They are about
usurping Hindu land, wealth and political power egged on
by their foreign donors and masters.
It is hard to imagine a single benefit to the nation from
the continued presence of xianity and islam. They are
forces of chaos, anarchy, national disintegration and
destruction.
The government which of late has been boasting we are
a donor nation should in fact block foreign funds to churches
and madrassas altogether.
We want a government that derecognizes the status of
xianity and islam as religions. We want a government that
ends colonial-era diplomatic ties with the Vatican now
headed by Pope BeneDickhead.
Our democracy is a superfailure. It is a do-nothing, losers'
democracy. On every measurable parameter that defines
success, we are at the bottom among nations.
The present Congress government that leads a coalition of
antinational and criminal forces represents no more than
perhaps 15% of the country. The Congress is a party of coolies,
criminals, servants, shudras and chandalas. After 120 years it
could not produce a native born leader to preside over it. The
PM is a worthless wimp - an anonymous, cringing, faceless,
uninspiring, nothing biped.
The Congress Party - every trace, every vestige, every
reminder, every evidence it existed at all - must go before
there can be a national renewal.
The first step in becoming a successful democracy is
the declaration we are a Hindu-Buddhist civilization. All of
us - including the universities, the government, the judiciary,
the media - should be free to become active contributors
in reforming the ills of our society and promoting the best of our
national traditions while embracing modernity.
The constitution written by losers for losers must be discarded.
We need a new constitution written by winners for winners.
Lokesh
Destructive Constitution
September 6 2005, 9:11 AM
Not only are we a non-performing democracy,
our Constitution is slowly breaking up the
country. It was written by intimidated,
defeated and subjugated people whose only
knowledge was whatever they acquired from
reading books written by their colonial
masters. These books they read while serving
time in colonial prisons. Nehru was typical
of these intellectual dwarfs.
According to a recent newspaper report the
number of foreign missionaries has gone up
from 2500 to 4000 since the shudras, the
chandalas and the criminals that make up the
UPA took over. The situation is grim.
Are there 4000 Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh or Jain
missionaries engaged in conversions in any
other foreign country? What's wrong with these
self-destructive, s h i t-eating mofos, shudras
and chandalas of the UPA? As for the PM who
leads this riffraff, you can't tell whether
he is alive or dead by looking at him.
BaptistBeGone
The Nehru curse
September 9 2005, 3:54 AM
It's one thing if the nondescript PM and the UPA
rabble were only self-hating, self-destructive
shudras. They would be destroying themselves which
is a good thing. We'd like to see them all dead.
The problem is they are taking the country down
with them. Every single day they live, more
damage and humiliation rains down upon us.
They are devoid of love of country and have not
even a rudimentary concept of self-respect and
national pride.
Until the Congress party is uprooted and
obliterated from the political landscape, the
Nehru curse will continue to thwart the
nation's ambition, pride and progress.
Jagan
A disgrace
September 9 2005, 10:11 AM
The PM hardly inspires respect. He
has none for himself. Probably the worst
in the nation's history, he has already
established his credentials as an enemy
of Hindu-Buddhist civilization by actively
undermining it. For no reason or purpose
- no leader with any pride and respect for
his country would do such a thing - he has
been issuing visas to foreign missionaries
to come in and break every law. Missionaries
haven't had it this good since Nehru the
chandala's death.
They know they are doing what the
turbanwallah and the UPA would like to do
themselves - accelerate the demise of the
world's first and most ancient civilization.
Rupin
Loyal colonial servant and bible lover
September 9 2005, 7:20 PM
We hear that the turbanwallah handpicks
visa applications from foreign gospel
preachers and approves them personally. He
has signed off on 1500 missionary visas
since becoming PM.
In his office, his former colonial rulers'
bible sits atop his desk and his feet rest
on The Guru Granth Sahib on the floor.
Why does he do these things? He still thinks
this is the 19th century and he is a colonial
servant. He wants to show his appreciation
for the benefits brought to him and his
community by colonial rulers and churchmen
according to a recent public statement he
made.
Lokesh
How abt it?
September 10 2005, 6:30 AM
How about preaching the best of Adi Granth
instead of lettin' in bible-toting wigger
missionaries who have nothing to preach
but canned lies?
BaptistBeGone
Divisive constitution and dysfunctional government
September 14 2005, 10:36 AM
A constitution that divides people into castes, subcastes, tribes,
religious groups and other categories is no constitution at all
and should be destroyed.
A constitution that calls for special treatment of minority
religions forcibly imposed upon the populace by invading
armies deserves to be consigned to the flames.
A constitution that does not even know the name of the country,
Bharat or India, is a third world constitution not worthy of
respect and should be destroyed.
A constitution that does not declare ours a Hindu-Buddhist
civilization deserves disownment and contempt.
A constitution that gives special status to J&K is a divisive
document that should be trampled upon and destroyed.
A constitution that supports the right of each religious community
to administer its own civil laws does not understand the concept
of equal justice under the law for all and should be shredded and
discarded.
A nation whose government robs Hindu temples and gives that
money to churches, madrassas and muslim maggots' Haj
pilgrimage should have its leader, the Prime Minister, convicted
for treason and sentenced to death.
A nation whose government has taken over the management
of Hindu temples, should have its leader, the Prime Minister,
and his whole cabinet, sentenced to death.
A nation whose government after 60 years still allows foreign
money to xian NGOs should have its leader, the Prime Minister,
tarred and feathered and banished to life imprisonment without
parole.
A nation whose government after 60 years still allows foreign
money to NGOs with foreign affiliations and promotes social
disharmony and compromises national security should have its
leader, the Prime Minister, serve a life sentence and die in prison.
A nation whose weak and servile government flies the national
flag at half-mast upon the death of a head or pontiff of any
foreign religion, should have its leader, the Prime Minister,
thrown into prison to serve a life sentence without parole.
A nation whose government practices a policy of minority
appeasement should have its leader, the Prime Minister,
condemned to life without parole.
A nation whose government forces xian and muslim religious
holidays as national holidays on our Hindu nation, should have
its leader, the Prime Minister, removed from society and
put behind bars for life without parole.
A nation whose government hires flea-brained historians to
force junk history on schoolchildren should have its leader,
the Prime Minister, tossed into prison and rot there until
death.
A nation whose government after 60 years has no policy to
reverse the mindless explosion of population, which will soon
reach 1.5 billion, should give its leader, the Prime Minister, a
life sentence and a rope to hang himself to death.
A nation whose government after 60 years does not promote
our national language Hindi as the language of administration,
the judiciary, the media and the universities, should have its
leader, the Prime Minister, ostracized to life without parole.
A nation whose government fails to protect the environment and
wildlife habitats, should give its leader, the Prime Minister,
a new habitat, the penitentiary, for life without parole.
BaptistBeGone
Rethink and rewrite
September 19 2005, 9:04 AM
One nation, one people, one language. That's the spirit,
the standard, the ideal, a great nation-building
constitution must embody for a people to be successful
in the world of today and the world of the future.
Even with a such a forward-looking constitution national
success is not guaranteed. But we can live by it lawfully
and peacefully.
A constitution is the modern holy book. And the law
book. It's like the best of our ancient Scriptures
and Dharma Shastras retooled, upgraded and adapted
to bind and guide the people of a modern nation state.
A constitution must know its people, their identity, their
character, their literature, their religions and philosophies,
the genesis of their civilization, their recent and ancient
histories, the best and the worst aspects of their society,
in order to be able to improve and shape their future.
We want a constitution that calls upon the State to defend
and protect our Hindu nation and our Hindu-Buddhist
civilization with its power.
The divisive constitution we now have has no such vision.
It was slapped together by shallow men like Ambedkar,
Nehru and others, much of what's in it borrowed from the
constitutions of other nations. It has little practical relevance
to building unity, strength and success. It has made the
government itself into a force that humiliates, divides and
destroys.
Look at what it has wrought. It has led to the takeover and
management of Hindu temples by atheists, communists,
kharistas, mohammadans and street criminals hired by the
government. The money enriches corrupt politicians of the
ruling party of the day and is dished out to churches and
madrassas. Mohammadans now fly to mecca every year
on Hindu temple money confiscated by government goondas.
This is third world democracy and the Constitution of India
in action. Or is it the Constitution of Bharat? Nehru,
Ambedkar and their colleagues give us no indication they
knew the name of the country in which they were living.
Our constitution is an instrument of division, fragmentation
and anarchy. It has been amended almost every year since
going into effect in 1950. It is fundamentally flawed and
another hundred amendments will not be able to rectify its
deficiencies. It and the government it has spawned are
leading us toward a state of extreme overpopulation,
ubiquitous poverty, maximum disorder, and eventual national
disintegration and the death of our civilization. It should be
rethought and rewritten from the ground up.
Nayan
Nutwar ignores national interests, sucks up to Shias
September 19 2005, 10:40 PM
External Affairs Minister(EAM) Nutwar Singh said on
19 September 2005 that the government's Iran policy is
designed to ensure that the large number of Shias among
the Muslims in the country will continue to vote for
the Congress Party. He told tv viewers Iran is Shia.
Our response:
Shias, Sunnis, Mohammadans, Mojahirs, Allahuddins - or whatever
these indoctrinated local beasts and fractional Arabs are called - all
of them should have left the country about 60 years ago. They are
welcome to pack their bags and get out today if they wish.
We would like to ask the Minister: Nut, what about the more
than 85 percent of the people who are Hindus and who think
that Iran's nuclear weapons program is a threat to the world
and should be destroyed?
Rupin
They can leave
September 20 2005, 7:47 AM
They can all go. That includes the missile man
and the wipro man.
BaptistBeGone
He should go
September 23 2005, 9:49 AM
Under the coalition government of the riffraff known
as the UPA, the number of foreign missionaries has risen
from 2500 to 4000.
This PM should resign. His insecurities and inadequacies
are many. He is not well. Spiritually or psychologically.
This is the third world wimp who flew the national flag at
half-mast for three days when that pollack pope died. What
was the idea? What was the reason or purpose? What was
he trying to prove? Which country is he a citizen of?
Is he all right? We think not.
The same questions must be asked again. Why has he
issued 1500 visas to junk missionaries from abroad?
What's the idea? What's the reason or purpose? What's
the sumbitch trying to do? In which country is he living?
We want illegal Bangladeshis out. All agree. They are a
threat to social harmony, our democracy and national
security.
We want wigger missionaries out. All agree. They are a
threat to social harmony, our democracy and national
security.
Andhra Cyclone: Conversion Guilt Is Talk Of The Town
Posted September 23, 2005
Rama Rao
Vijayawada
The recent cyclone in Andhra Pradesh, India has played havoc causing immense loss of life and property. It has already resulted in the death of more than 60 people, several thousands injured and significant damage to property.
Apart from the immediate deaths and destruction, local people are also worried about the long-term effects of the cyclone. It is estimated that millions of people along the coastal regions could end up in dire poverty because of the damage from the cyclone.
Even as they are trying to figure out the extent of the losses suffered, even people living in the plains, who until recently considered themselves immune to such calamities, are starting to wonder how they became victims of this tragedy. They are looking for reasons beyond those offered by the government and the scientific community.
Many victims say that all these events are due to their losing the blessings of their Gods and inviting their wrath because of the sins they have committed. Some have started to wonder if their conversion to Christianity could have led to their losing the grace of local deities, many of whom are considered to be guardians of the villages from precisely these kinds of calamities. They note that Christian missionaries required them to abuse Hindu Gods and village deities as a pre-condition to receiving money for converting to Christianity. An old lady lamented in Telugu, *"Dabbuki kakkurthi padi devullani tittamu; ippudu emayyindo chudayya, tinadaniki ginjalu kooda levu, cheesina papalu oorikene povu"* (Out of greed we converted and abused our Gods; now look what has happened, we are left without even food. We are taught a lesson for our sins and crimes).
The sentiment appears to be prevalent across all the affected districts of Andhra Pradesh and is particularly strong in temple towns such as Rajamundry and Bhadrachalam. In Eluru, which saw major destruction from the cyclone, converts to Christianity are blaming each other for breaking the gigantic Hanuman statue and inviting the wrath of the "monkey God." The situation is not that much different in Rama's temple town, Bhadrachalam. Many converts have thrown away chains with crosses and have started wearing chains with pendants of 'Veeranjaneya,' the form of Hanuman as a protector of good and destroyer of evil.
Local pastors and church leaders are worried about the effect of the cyclone and the resulting soul-searching engaged in by the villagers. They are worried that people may return to their native faith, Hinduism and nullify the millions of dollars and years of effort they have poured into evangelization activities in these villages. One pastor claimed that the community is so angry that not even one person may return to his church. He is keeping indoors as he is afraid to venturing into the village. Other sources indicate that the local pastors are turning to their church authorities for guidance in handling the situation.
A senior church member said that high level meetings are going on between senior church members and their superiors in the USA regarding the cyclone relief. One strategy emerging from these meetings seems to be to target only so-called "un-reached" regions and going for mass conversion using relief material as the bait. A church consultant based in US suggested that missionaries should totally avoid regions with some church presence. He fears that in these regions the converts would demand extra money as a fallout of cyclone and convert back to Hinduism or Islam if their demands are not met. He also suggested that pastors should leave those regions immediately and flock to the "un-reached" regions so as not to raise any suspicion among their communities. It seems that he is a strong proponent of 'No-extra-payments after conversion' rule.
Similar incidents were visible in the aftermath of the tsunami in Tamil Nadu. People stopped going to churches after it was found that areas dominated by Christian converts were the ones worst affected by the tsunami whereas water just surrounded Hindu temples leaving the premises dry. During the tsunami, the Our Lady of Good Health church, the famous Catholic pilgrim centre in Velankanni turned into a burial ground. Subsequently people have abandoned this church and consider it as a cursed place as it was built over an existing temple.
The church's spin doctors are however working overtime to try and use the human tragedy to further the missionary agenda. Employing the same strategy that was used during the recent December tsunami, missionaries have been preaching to locals that the cyclone struck because people did not convert to Christianity. Rev. Kim Hong-do of Seoul's Kumnan Methodist Church, the largest Methodist church in Korea, gave a sermon on January 2 in which he said that the victims of December 26 earthquake and the ensuing tsunami that devastated much of South Asia were killed because they didn't believe in Jesus.
Vasant
xian yoga and the xian religion: both are without merit
September 26 2005, 10:52 AM
Like xian yoga, the xian religion is also counterfeit. There are
well over a hundred passages in the xian holy book, the new
testament, appropriated from Hindu-Buddhist literature.
Augustine was the bishop of Hippo which is now in Algeria. He
lived from 354 to 430.
He puts the lie to any claim xianity originated with a fictional
nonentity called christ. According to him: That which is known
as the xian religion existed among the ancients .... and the
true religion which already existed began to be called xianity.
Eusebius lived from circa 263 to about 340 much closer than
Augustine to the beginnings of xianity. A church historian, he
also served as the bishop of Caesarea in Palestine. He said: The
writings of Therapeutae [or Theravada Buddhists] are our gospels
and epistles.
This whole business of preaching the gospel in all nations was
also hijacked from Buddhism by xianity's religion-makers like
what some half-baked and irrational xians are now doing with
Hindu yoga.
Buddhism is the world's first transnational and missionary
religion.
From Buddhist texts:
He sent them across the Ganges Valley, saying, " A great duty
is yours - to work for the happiness of men. Let us separate and
go each in a different direction, no two following the same
path - and preach the Dharma."
Go ye, O Bhikkhus, and go forth for the gain of the many, for
the welfare of the many, out of compassion for the world, for
the good, for the gain, for the welfare of gods and men. Proclaim,
O Bhikkhus, the doctrine glorious, preach ye a life of holiness,
perfect and pure.
I shall not pass into Nirvana, till this religion of mine is
successful, prosperous, widespread, popular, ubiquitous; in a
word, made thoroughly public among men.
So what are churchmen and missionaries who are enriching
themselves with public donations and operating the conversion
racket, propagating? A false religion without merit built
around a fictional christ.
lalit
xian yoga is proof xianity is a grossly deficient religion
Finally, many Christians and Jews are admitting the superiority of the Hindu religion and its integral Yoga teachings and practices. As reported in the New Times (9/17/05), there is a new-wave of Christians and Jews incorporating Yoga into their religions. True, like the vast majority, these new-age Christians and Jews only know "yoga" as Hatha Yoga. The Hindu worshipful posture(s) of Hatha Yoga is, of course, only one aspect of the great Hindu religion but very important and profound. To aid the Christian and Jewish Yogis and Yoginis, we are offering a few new products to help them feel more at home with their yoga practice:
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Please also realize that Hindus have for thousands of years been the victims of rape, in one form or another, by countless invaders. As Hindus, we also realize that many Hindus have been at fault for either promoting or allowing these misperceptions of their religion. We are working on this and hope you do the same.
We should all feel free to learn from other religions. We should also be strong within our respective religion and seek to learn it and clarify and even modify it when necessary. A true unity is found in (ethical) diversity and not in sameness (fundamentalism) and not in blindness (new-age, universalism). Like the saying "Be color rich," we can be religiously rich and avoid being religiously blind as well as entering into religious fundamentalism.
TheWatchman
Re: Aggressive Evangelisation drive on the rise in Kerala
December 21 2005, 10:49 PM
You ungrateful people need to be taught manners by your idols, we gave India its life before Christianity and US help it was a ****ty 3rd world suckhole with black skinned Aryans....
We employ you, just like others are finding out your a canerous lot, we too are finding out, no matter how much the Media wants us in the US to believe monkey lovers are our friends we know your a treacherous group, like leeches sucking on the blood of every nations economy....
christologist
Christologist responds
December 27 2005, 10:20 AM
WATCHMAN you're a wigger s h i t h e a d
on drugs.
BaptistBeGone
We are the true Aryans
December 27 2005, 4:23 PM
We're the real Aryans. Not you s h i t eating
corpse-on-the-cross worshiping wiggers.
BaptistBeGone
Phony Aryans
December 28 2005, 6:53 AM
Western wigger ****heads on crack.
Christologist
What kind of lover would you prefer to be?
December 28 2005, 7:07 AM
Monkey lover or wigger lover? Well,
monkeys are clean animals. A lot of
hookers will tell you wiggers stink
worse than christ's rotting corpse
on the cross.
BaptistBeGone
What do they worship?
December 29 2005, 7:28 AM
The prime object of worship in xianity
is a decomposing corpse on a cross.
According to their theology the rotting
corpse will lead you to xian heaven.
A xian has to say every day: The corpse
is my salvation.
Christologist
Let it die
December 29 2005, 8:47 AM
Christianity Dying In The West?
Posted October 4, 2005
Organiser
October 09, 2005
By M.S.N. Menon
Christianity is dying in the West. But it is springtime for Christianity in Asia and elsewhere. A Paradox? No. The Pope himself says so.
According to Pope Benedict, "there is no longer evidence in the western world for a need of God, even less of Christ."
Dear Hindu reader, are you listening? Do you know the implications of what he says? Perhaps not. But you should know-Christianity is in decline in the West because the West is ashamed of the Christian God Yahweh, who used to drink human blood, and it is flourishing in Asia because Asians are still under the spell of religion.
But how is one to account for the loss of faith in Jesus Christ? Because there is increasing evidence that he never existed, because it is now discovered that the life of Jesus was built on lies by St. Paul.
What is more, Yahweh has remained a jealous God, a God who rewarded and punished. And he was too closely associated with the Jewish race to become a God of mankind.
Today we have about 100,000 monographs on Jesus Christ. But we know almost nothing about the man! His life was deliberately kept a secret by the church. And St. Paul created a Jesus to suit his own objectives.
But are there other records to go by? Very few. Most were destroyed by the church. Pliny, the younger, mentions a sect called Christians, but never of Jesus Christ. Jesus does not even appear in the book of the Jewish historian Josephus, called Jewish Antiquities (published in 93 a.d.). The Jewish writer Justus lived in Tiberias, where Jesus was supposed to have lived often. But, he, too, never mentions the name of Jesus. Philo of Alexandria, another contemporary of Jesus, was a specialist on Jewish sects. But he too never mentions the name of Jesus. It is clear from all these that perhaps Jesus never lived, and if he lived at all, he was an insignificant person. It was St. Paul who built up the Christ figure. But today very few are willing to accept the Jesus Christ of St. Paul.
It is this lack of proper evidence of his life and work, which made Ian Wilson, author of Jesus: The Evidence conclude: "There is scarcely a crumb of information to compel a belief in Jesus' existence." Rudolf Bultmann, the greatest New Testament theologian of the 20th century, almost said the same thing. Ernest Kasemann, a specialist on the New Testament at the Tubingen University, says of the research on the life of Jesus: "One is overwhelmed by how little of the accounts about Jesus in the New Testament can be called authentic!
So, what passes for "Christianity "is the work of St. Paul. William Nestle, a Church historian, writes: " Christianity is the religion founded by St. Paul. It replaced Christ's gospel with a gospel about Christ."
Modern theologians and researchers in religious history believe that the Central tenet of salvation through the death and suffering of Jesus has been a deliberate misinterpretation by Paul. He is also the author of anti-feminism in Christianity. He says:" It is good for a man not to touch a woman." Which is why Mary Magdalene was made into a prostitute. Paul is also the author of the concepts of Original sin and Trinity. In short, Paul produced a totally distorted message of Jesus. The trouble with the Bible, says Professor, Whitehead, “has been its interpreters, who whittled down that sense of infinitude into finitude...and the first interpreter of the New Testament was the worst-Paul. True, Paul put Jesus on a pedestal and saved Christianity from being branded a minor Jewish sect.
If one is not sure about the existence of Jesus, what about the various claims made by the church on behalf of Christ? There is no evidence that Jesus died on the cross. A commission of Bishops (of York and Canterbury), after 16 years of research, declared that the Bible story of the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ was incorrect.
Similarly, a book based on a study by seven of Britain's foremost theologians said that Christ was neither divine nor an incarnate. Among the distinguished theologians, who authored the book was Prof. Canon Maurice Wiles, Professor of Divinity at the University of Oxford. They said; "The historical Jesus never presented himself as incarnate."
Then, what is left of Christ and Christianity? Very little. Which is why the West is in no need of Christ. What is more, Darwin had already demolished the foundation of the Biblical story of Adam and Eve (Genesis).
The entire edifice of Christianity had thus fallen. But the empire of the church and its vested interests are so powerful they can withstand any adversity. "Pesudo-Christianity," says George Bernard Shaw, "was and will be fact-proof."
If Christianity is thus dying in the West, it cannot live and flourish in the East. Can it? It is for you Hindus to decide.
The case against Christianity is not that Christ never
existed. Let's say he is a fictional character which he is.
There is nothing wrong with that - if his literary creators
had their imaginary savior actually teach and do something
new the world did not know about. If the story of Christ
had been authentic fiction, Christianity would not have
been diminished in any way simply because its protagonist
Christ is not a historical figure.
But the New Testament is not even authentic fiction.
Practically everything in it can be traced to older sources
in world literature. It is a plagiarists' compilation.
Christianity has mellowed somewhat since the end of
the Second World War in which Christian nations fought
and nearly decimated each other. It has a bloody history
no less grisly than Islam. It continues to be an aggressive
and intolerant religion. Its rabid proponents never cease
to denigrate other far superior traditions from which
Christianity has borrowed copiously and without which it
would not have come into existence in the first place.
Many foreign churches are funding terror, promoting illegal
conversions flouting our national laws, and sowing the seeds
of division and discord among our people. And all of this is
going on right now.
This false, aggressive and intolerant religion must die.
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