Aggressive Evangelisation drive on the rise in Kerala
Kerala
By Kumar Chellappan

Aggressive evangelisation and that too at an alarming rate is jolting Kerala state. Gospel and evangelisation teams are storming the length and breadth of the state on a war footing. A Christian Chief Minister whose hatred for the Hindus is quite ‘well known’ and a pliable administration make the operations easy for the proselytisers. The police force in the state is full of Christian officers who do not have any qualms in acting as preachers. One of the prominent lawyers in the state complained about Siby Mathew, a senior IPS officer, for whom all criminals are equal, but Christian criminals are more equal. This speaks volumes about the state of affairs in the state.

With Sonia Gandhi at the helm in New Delhi, various Church authorities are in an aggressive mood. They build up false cases against RSS activists. The incident at Olavanna where the Missionaries of Charity alleged that they were attacked by the Sangh Parivar came quite handy for the police to implicate innocent RSS activists. Central Travancore area in the state is experiencing proselytisation drive of an unprecedented nature. A Pentecostal leader by the name of K.P. Yohannan has unleashed a reign of terror on the poor Hindus in the area. The tsunami attack along the coastal districts of the state has come as a God-given opportunity for the likes of Yohannan.

Evangelisers are on the prowl all over the state. They identify houses where women are alone during daytime and approach them with Christian literature and other campaign materials.

Evangelisers are on the prowl all over the state. They identify houses where women are alone during daytime and approach them with Christian literature and other campaign materials. The shocking phenomenon is that they are targeting the general wards of the medical college hospitals and other government hospitals in the state. Pastors visit the poor patients and pray near their bed and brainwash them with promises. “If you convert to Christianity, all your problems would come to an end. It is the Satan whom you worship as God and who creates all problems,” they tell these illiterate villagers.

The new-found bonhomie between the Church and the CPI(M) has come in handy for the evangelisers. The Kerala CPI(M) has two prominent Christian leaders in Thomas Issac and M.A. Baby. Though both of them are marxists, the Church considers them as their representatives in the party. Pinarayi Vijayan, the Kerala CPI(M) secretary, is at the mercy of these two devout Christians. That is the reason why Pinarayi sings paeans to the evangelisers. Pinarayi went to the extent of describing the nuns of the missionaries of charity as angels!

The CPI(M) which spares no chance to attack Mata Amritanadamayi and Shri Ravi Shankar kept a studied silence when Lonappan Nambadan, one of the party MPs, attended a conclave held by the Roman Catholic church. The CPI(M) leadership is in the process of building a flyover between AKG Centre ( the party headquarters at Thiruvananthapuram) and the Bishop Palaces across the state. Moves are afoot to project Baby as the future chief ministerial candidate.

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THE NEW POPE:

Nazi-putra ... Rat's Ass Inger ... Bene Dickhead XVI ...
will be the new spiritual guide of sheet-eating indian
church officials and the local xians they instigate ...

reports say Rat's Ass Inger XVI or Dickhead 10-5-1 or whatever
they call him has had a bleeding stroke ... the good thing is
he's old and will probably have another stroke and die soon ...


THE OLD POPE:

putrid polack pope has perished ... the old white ****** had been
rotting away for years with every disease in the medical encyclopedia ... suffering excruciatingly ... begging for mercy ... hurting no end ... his whole existence was an endless punishment for his bad karma ... his dickless christ couldn't save him ... ms ... ebola ... bird flu ... prostate cancer ... you name it he had it ... when they brought him around in his wheelchair, you had to hold your nose to block out the stench ... don't think this is the end of the foul churchman ... instead of giving him a decent Hindu cremation, his sheep - the xians - are putting him in a hole in the ground ... with the worms ... this is a bad idea ... you see his body was filled with christ-love ... when your body gets saturated with christ-love, it becomes hypertoxic ... toxins from his remains will leach out and continue to poison ground water supplies all over fkn christendom for years to come ... the stinkin' pope may be dead but he carries on his lord's work from six feet under ...

"Ghar Wapsi" or "come-back-home" to your roots
program originated by VHP has been increasingly
successful. Many christians are returning to
their national traditions. All of them will joyfully
come back if we'd only reach out to them. Hindus
across the country must receive, reconnect, embrace,
help and form lifelong friendships with christians
returning home to their ancestral roots.

christ symbolizes intolerance, falsehood, fraud,
propaganda, assault, aggression, violence, war,
division, destruction of families, communities
and societies. We have no space for a religion - if it
can be called that - whose main occupation seems to
be denigrating faiths infinitely superior to
itself. Propagating lies, bellicosity and funding
terror are the instruments of christianity without
which it will cease to exist.

The real antinational foreign agents in the country
are those high up in the church hierarchy like the
bishops and cardinals or similar bogus title holders
- not ordinary christians.

These gangsters and criminals are in the pay of
alien forces. They are a menace and pose a grave
threat to national security and social harmony.

Conversions conducted with foreign money have
little to do with religion. Look at the converted
christians in the Northeast. They are illiterates,
drunks, criminals and terrorists. Those in Kerala
and Goa are not any different.

Nationwide community service, helping the downtrodden
and empowering the impoverished is the answer. The poor
and the helpless are being hounded, intimidated and
terrorised by orders from the bishops and cardinals
who work for their post-colonial masters abroad. They
receive money from their foreign overlords. They do
not live a simple, wholesome and religious life. They
possess fancy cars, concubines and live in mansions.
They want to gain more and more political power
by increasing the size of their constituencies through
illegal conversions using intimidation and terror.

Send 1, 2, 5, 10% or more of your income for the
upliftment of the enfeebled and the poor. Strengthen
the hands of premier social service organizations in
the country like the VHP.

Dear all,
Today its Kerala, very soon we'll have the entire country overrun by these missionaries who are hellbent on destroying the original Indian culture. Hinduism or as i like to call it Sanatan dharm has already been scathed over the last few centuries... but this time its worse. According to the Indian constitution, the state is not allowed to participate or promote or take sides with any kind of relegious propagation. Yet the ones in authority do that.
The people of India now turn a blind eye to most of the attrocities happening in the country. Bliss is being found in ignorance.
Relegious conversions is at full blast and its getting out of hands.
Something must be done to kurb it. Something physically has to be done. We have to go beyond the internet and have to indulge in groundwork.
There is no more time left to be wasted in saving our way of life.
Jai Hind

As suggested in the previous post,
give 1, 2, 5, 10% or more of your
earnings to social service organizations
like the VHP which are already on the
ground and need our help.

According to serious New Testament
scholars, christ who never married
had homosexual relationships with
some of his apostles. The christ-man
was a misogynist and never associated
with women.

So it is to be expected that christian
churches of all denominations are packed
with priests who are pedophiles, homos or
other kinds of sexual deviants.

What is the moral of the story?

christ was a faggot and christians are
faggot worshipers.

Yes, it's true. The founder of the christian
religion was a fagot.

christianity is a "father & son" religion.
There is no mother. It has no room for
women at the top.

christ left home to take up the unholy
life and shack up with the apostles. He
made no effort to remain in touch with
his parents. His mother found out where
he lived and once went to see him. When he
saw her he pretended not to recognize
her and disowned her by saying he didn't
know who she was.

He kept women out.

The practice continues. Churches are
uncomfortable with women in prominent
positions. Women cannot become priests.

Churches promote pedophilia within their
premises. They think they are above the
law.

Normal rational men want nothing to do
with christian priesthood. Only pedophiles
sign up and are received with open arms by
the church.

Yes, christians are fagot worshipers. Their
founder was a queer.

The degradation of christendom goes on.
christian countries are now passing laws
to make fagot unions legal.

I think christianity is about some kind
of homo-erotic rapture or mysticism or
something.

I don't know much about the different religions
but I'd believed that christ was a great religious
leader like muhammad or an ayatollah. After
reading the messages here I am not sure.

Even a really bad movie is never given a zero
star rating. I think I'll give christ a half-star
out of a possible five stars.

Guys guys guys......... lets not go into ranting useless rhetoric about the homosexual nature of any relegion.
The point here is... what could be done to stop the conversions that are taking place?!
Well giving some amount from our earnings to organizations like VHP might help, but then how much can the VHP do?
We need to do something to stop all this without creating much riot. Afterall, Christians, Muslims, Parsis etc are as much Indian as any Hindu. Our country as it stands today cannot survive if there are communal differences.
We all together form India.
But these conversions must stop. The missionaries have to be dealt with. If not by hook then by crook.
Jai Hind !

Make VHP and RSS strong by encouraging the rich NRI community to Donate librally to these orgainizations to make them strong and also to create a class of intellectuals who are pro hindu and can look through the facade of the so called "secularism."

I agree with Hitanshu. I expressed the
same views in a couple of my messages.
Let me expand a little bit.

We have hundreds of milllions of half-starved
people all over the country. They are easy prey.
The problem is staggering. We can use any
amount of money. There is really no limit.
If you want to give Rs. 400 crores a year we can
use it. If you want to give 800 crores a year
we still need more to implement all of our
programs. We can fix any problem if we can
raise enough money.

VHP is smart. It knows what to do and is doing it.
But it can use our help.

We can't just stop at restraining foreign-funded
churches and their criminal activities. We must
go beyond and also bring about a genuine
transformation in the lives of hundreds of
millions of people living in hopeless poverty.

Temples should follow vhp and rss. they
should become social service centers. people
should be able to go to a temple or a vhp/rss
office and get help for their problems.
this will also show missionaries and muslims
that Hinduism is the best religion.

I agree with Hitanshu, Baptist be gone and Raghu. I think we might just be on the verge of creating a new revolution.
We can encourage the NRI Hindu communities along with local Hindus to work towards bringing efficiency in bodies like VHP etc.
Also we should all make a combined effort to influence the temples to start undertaking social services. The temples could make a lot of difference by doing goodwill activitites for people of all castes and creeds.
This will also help in breaking the illusions of the Church and Mosque.
After all half of the people are inspired to undergo conversion only due to the social services performed by institutions.
But the question now is... how?
How can we achieve this? I from my side will try to influence the Indian community in USA and Canada for starters and will also try to influence Indians in India to contribute for this cause.
What say you guys? It would be good if we all join hands and you all commit to this cause.
I have my email listed. Clicking my name should allow you to send me an email.
Lets work towards it!!
Jai Hind!

Name a few of the most important things
a religion should teach.

obey the secular laws of the land

follow religious and moral teachings
that are outside the realm of the
constitution and elected government

help others in need

preserve and enhance the environment

know that we have a special
responsibility to protect the
habitats of other creatures that
share this planet with us so they
can live as nature intended

How does Hinduism measure up?

Source:

http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1115955843&type=news




Australian cricketer Waugh plans to set up Christian township in Mumbai
Posted May 12, 2005
May 10, 2005 22:43 IST

Rediff.com

Former Australia skipper Steve Waugh is planning to set up a Christian township in Mumbai.

He met Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh at Mantralaya on Tuesday and discussed his plans.

Deshmukh told reporters after the cabinet meeting that Waugh's company had proposed to set up a Christian township in the city on a "100 to 400 acre land".

The industry secretary has been appointed the nodal agency for the proposal, Deshmukh added.

NOTE: Steve Waugh, a Christian evangelist and a multi-millionaire, has been a big supporter of Christian Missionary Groups in India. In the past, he has donated millions of rupees for the conversions of Tsunami victims, funding a Christian orphanage (‘Udayan’) in Kolkata and setting up a school in collaboration with the Christian Mission and the orthodox church.


COMMENTS:

Is Waugh proposing this to meet the needs of the Australian
immigrant community in Mumbai?

A township? Descendants of criminals from the penal colony of
of Australia will be coming to live in Mumbai to preach hate
and sow discord?

Mumbai has been trying hard to prevent an influx of people
from other parts of the country. But now it seems to be
finding it all right to bring in christian crooks,
pedophiles, money launderers and all manner of white wiggers
from down under.

Deshmukh, will you become a resident of this township
yourself and serve as a butler, a chauffeur or a washroom
attendant? It doesn't look like you have a functioning brain
under that gandoo topi of yours.

Ask for "100 to 400 acres of land" in Sydney or Melbourne
for a Hindu township. Are you a man, a half-man or a
sheet-eating Congress Party vassal?

There is increasing religious division and tension in the
country already.

Say NO. This is not a commercial venture. We do not want
to give foreign criminals a base. Learn from history.
Their charity work at the beginning is only a front to get in.
The real goal is to create a violent, self-hating, antinational
christian population in the country that will eventually
gain political control, destroy our civilization and
make us subservient to foreign interests.

In this 21st century, why do we need a homo-erotic, fagot
religion called christianity?

Another Congress Party gandoo, Nehru, allowed baptist
missionaries from New Zealand into the Northeast a few
decades ago. The region is now a hotbed of terror and
secession movements.

I can understand a proposal to open a
Wal-Mart store or some such thing. But a
foreigner asking for land to build a
township to a foreign religion
in a foreign country is unheard of.

No respectable CM of a state in any
respectable country would have even bothered
to meet with this individual. The proper
response to this proposal should have been
and should be no response at all. It's like
denying a visa. You don't have to give any
reasons for the denial.

Say no to white wiggers' christ and any
form of christian township in Mumbai.

Down with chritian faggots. Throw the missionaries out.

Anyone under the influence of christ
is not packing a full load of bricks.
If he is an evangelist, then this
cricketer suffers from extreme insanity.

Don't let this cricketer-evangelist get
a foothold in the country. A christian
township in Mumbai is a dangerous idea.

The worthless Hindu Congress CM knows
neither history nor has any foresight.

This township is going to be swarming with
christian thugs not only from down under
but also from all over christendom. They
will conduct their nefarious activities
from within this area using a huge army of
impoverished local people after first
converting them to christianity with money.
The upshot will be a mini-Goa of old within
the city limits of Mumbai.

Most of the Hindu population is hopelessly
poor and powerless. They are dead to their
environment. They will not be able to do
anything.

The government will not move to prevent
criminal activities being carried out from
within this christian township. The police
will be bribed and bought off.

Eventually this township will have to be
dismantled through mass agitation and
mass action against it.

We can prevent all that by prevailing upon
the government to ****-can this proposal now.

Then do so.
Any suggestions?? How to make the government realise their blunder?
Have you ever thought of what should be done if the government is being run by fools who think that pleasing the west at any cost (be it their own country men) should be their top priority!? Egoistic retards running the show in our country often act quite impulsively without giving a second thought to the consequences. I often wonder if these people should be allowed at all to be a part of a government whose action decide the fate of the billions of people of the most ancient country in this world.

How can you influence the government to refuse Steve Waugh and his proposal?

Under the Indian Penal Code Section 153A, promoting enmity between groups in religion is a recognizable offence. By allowing a Christian colony to be built the state is actually indirectly promoting relegious enmity. The state cannot under any circumstance take sides with one ethnicity and ignore the others. Its the murder of democracy.

Ironic that Hindus are treated as third grade citizens in their own homeland.
More rights are given to the minorities and worse..... missionaries are given protection. And if a missionary is killed... his wife is given a Padamshri award.

What kind of a chaos are we now living in .... when our president is (no offense to muslims) muslim, our prime minister is sikh and (this ones rather hard to digest) a lady without any official title is running the government and worse.... she's not even Indian. She's from the country which is the center for all missionary activities. She belongs to a nation which has the Vatican city..... where the popes can pass any judgement about any relegion in this world and get away with it.
These 58 years, were we really independent? Is this the definition of freedom for us? We are being ruled by minorities?????

How would you " prevail upon the government? "

Time's running out.

There has been no response to this
township proposal in the national
or the regional media.

The angrezi-speaking intellectuals
especially of the nationalist variety
have been mute.

To the best of my knowledge, my comments
here in this forum are probably the
first attempt by anybody to bring attention
to the serious consequences to our nation
from the creation of such a township.

The news story seems to have gone unnoticed
by nationalist organizations like VHP, RSS,
BJP and others. I am surprised by the
deafening silence.

Legal challenges can be mounted to stop
this proposal. Peaceful mass agitation and
mass action against it now rather than later
will in all probability force the government
to respect national sentiment.

Dear friends,

Hope you all have heard CPM Leader
V.S.ACHUTANANTHAN'S remarks about Smart City;
upcoming at Kochi.He wants all the people behind
this project in Jail.

This kind of politicians will ruin our State. They
have no vision for future. It's all cheap
political games for their gain. If the project
comes up our Kochi will be the most happening
place in India. At the least 20,000 people will
get a job out there. All major IT firms, like
Microsoft, IBM, CISCO will have their offices in
the proposed project. But unfortunately that
thorn in the ass dislikes progress. He wants all
Keralites to be remained in bullock cart period.
Then only he will get supporters.

Dear friends, you know something about that great
leader. He has a son called Arun Kumar. He did
his MCA from TKM College of Engineering; Kollam.He
was one of the worst students in his class. After
completion of his course he was made as the
Managing Director of Coir Corporation, Kerala.You
may be wondering what relation Computers have with
Coir.But at that time CPM was ruling kerala. So
they are both related. After that he went to
DUBAI as an IT Consultant. So what now V.S needs
is, to make his son as the IT Director of Smart
City, when the next government comes into power.
But Smart City authorities have out rightly
declined that he will never become the Director.So
our leader wants to scrap the entire project.


Its normal that parents loves their wards. But why
should them sacrifice a nations interest for their
gains. Another thorn is KARUNAKARAN.He has made
crores of Rupees by looting our state. His son
Murali has more than 1000 acres of land in Kerala
and has stakes in almost all buildings in Calicut.
Next comes PINARAYI VIJAYAN.His daughter did her
education from one of the leading institution in
Tamilnadu, which takes heavy capitation from
Students. (Owned by Mata Amrtandamayi). You should
know that this same Pinarayi does not want Private
education institutions in Kerala, because they
take capitation from students. But he can send his
daughter to other states and can provide good
education to his child.

Dear friends, these politicians are making all of
us big fools. They all want their pockets to be
filled; their children should get good education
and jobs, but least bothered about the common man
of our state. God gave our state everything, but
he did not give us some one to guide us properly.

Its time to revolt against these kind of dirty
politicians. Do it now before its too late. Let us
give our children a beautiful place to live, which
we all dream.'Pen is mightier than Sword'. So
forward this mail to all Mallus you know. Let us
start a new revolution. Our motto is "KICK ALL
THESE LEADERS OUT OF KERALA".

Well people, it is discriminating, foul languaged comments like yours that have throughout history made those you are commenting on stronger in whatever they do.

You will find many forums which discuss people like yourselves. People who live in constant fear and dont have any awareness about what is going on around them. And hence the reason why there is no analysis and you guys remain like spastics.

Aggressive Evangelisation drive is on the rise in Kerala
because keralites are basically a confused lot and that allows all kinds of moronic(christian groups and also hindu groups) to take advantage.

It has nothing to do with Sonia or any other idiot but the idiots who are your immediate neigbours including yourselves.

So get out of this stae of mind and make changes through positive ways, that will make sure the future generation wont have to worry about these christian, hindu, muslim, bahai, Nazi preachers!

Look at your malu brother or sister(normally sit at home) next to you and ask them "what do you think i can do to make this place a better place to live in?"

Forget about Sonia, etc.

Leave those comments for the weak.

Peaceful protests. Large participation.
Protests to continue on a regular basis.
Once every other week for example. Until
the government yields.

No christian township in Mumbai.

The government must terminate any further
consideration of this project.

The government will have no choice
other than to maintain social harmony
and respect national sentiments.

We also have to devise more muscular
ways of dealing with the conversion racket
run by christian dregs abroad and their
local peons with weird colonial names like
Pintoe, DeSooza, Mascarahneus and so on.
I can't spell them correctly. These
confused and alienated christ-freaks are
still walking around with names pinned on
their forcibly converted ancestors by
colonial rapists, robbers and genocidal
maniacs.

Psychiatry will not be able to help them.
"Ghar Wapsi" program is the only road
open to them to return to normalcy.

We should step up our own Ghar Wapsi
and social uplift programs. Local peons
working for foreign masters should be
run out of town and put out of business.

Tell this cricketer to go to Riyadh,
Saudi Arabia and set up a christian
village over there.

What do you think will happen?

I think the muslims will feed him to
the crocodiles imported from Australia.

mr. waugh, take your evangelism business
to europe. christianity is fast dying
over there. the eu constitution has
refused to acknowledge europe's christian
heritage. instead the pre-christian greek
and roman past of europe has been given
prominence. thinking and informed people
in europe are dissociating themselves
from middle-eastern christianity.

we've no use for your evangelism, your
christian religion or your fkn christ.

i don't know much about down under.
people over there are probably way behind
the rest of the world.

Mr. Evangelist, Europe is where you
should be heading. Christianity is
on its deathbed over there.

Get the hell out of our country.

Be on the lookout for any new news about
this christian village in Mumbai.

It must never be allowed to come into
existence.

Bull ****!!!!!!!!!

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=47493

Message by: vasants
hindunationalists @yahoogroups.com
October 07, 2002

Conversions to xianity must stop


The nineteenth century may be gone and past, but not for Indian xians
who're still walking around with strange and incongruous names pinned
on them by colonial missionaries a hundred and fifty years ago. Two out
of ten people in Kerala have odd foreign names. The percentage is four
times or higher in the Northeast. Without investigation or understanding,
they profess belief in a Palestinian messiah they call Christ - a shadowy
figure who never was and whose life story is a forgery. Their leaders are
always purchasable and prefer to live in colonial servility. The corrupt lot
is periodically plied with foreign money. Their new paymasters are the
crooks, the pedophiles and the scuzzbags - church leaders,
televangelists, sham faith healers and the like - running xian churches
and assault-ready conversion organizations abroad.

Foreign churches raise vast sums of money from their public. Most
of it goes to increase church owned land and other possessions and
enrich a few churchmen at the top. Small amounts are sent to church
officials in former colonies or poor countries where a dollar goes a long
way. Most of the small amounts thus received is hijacked by officials in high
positions. With what's left, full-time missionaries are hired at a few thousand
rupees a month to carry out illegal conversions. A few colleges and hospitals
may be built along the way to garner respectability and maintain a high profile.
The dirty work - the unlawful conversions - is carried out by individual
missionaries earning a paltry salary of a few thousand rupees a month.

One way among many to defeat xianity in our country is to hire experienced
xian field workers themselves at higher pay and better benefits and retrain
them as Hindu missionaries. These xian missionaries are not inspired by
deeply held religious beliefs. It's a job. It pays the bills. In a country
where not enough new jobs are being created in relation to the needs of its
population, any job is a dream job for most people - even one that is damaging
to our nation and society like working for xian missions. Most Indian missioinaries
would be only too happy to get out of the darkness of the xian jungle and savor the
bright sunshine if we can offer them a better deal financially - more money, better
housing, paid medical insurance for their families and so on.

The same goes for the people who are being converted. Our ancient tribal
people are without education and desperately poor. They are offered new clothes,
footwear, spending money and promise of more rewards. And they convert in
response to such inducements. There's really no religion involved in any of this.
The goal of xian missions is to increase the number of their followers. More
converts means more votes. Like muslims, xians are bloc-voters. Just as muslims do
what their mullahs tell them, xians do what their pastors tell them. This means
more political power and wealth-building opportunities for church officials high up
in the hierarchy.

Let's examine what drives foreign churches and other organizations to engage in
conversions in distant lands. For one thing, it's an old practice going back to
to colonial times. Old habits die hard. The state, the church, the military and
the voodoo scholars at universities all worked together as one team in those days.
Wherever the colonial robbers and genocidal criminals went with their guns and ships,
xian missionaries went along with them to plant the cross. It is not surprising then
that foreign churches are funding conversion activities in former colonies most of which
continue to have large and poor populations and weak governments. They are also
finding an ever venal, dollar-seeking church leadership in these erstwhile colonies.

There is also a glory factor which seems to hold sway on the public in xian countries.
Fund raisers like the televangelists falsely boast of mass conversions in far-off places.
The uninformed public mistakenly believes that their religion - xianity - is sweeping the
world. When people are so misled, it's easy to separate them from their money.

Foreign churches have been emboldened by the lack of response from successive,
do-nothing governments and private organizations during most of these past 55 years.
They have now graduated from illegal conversions to pure and holy xian work ordained
by Mr. Christ himself - arming the insurgents and funding terrorism in the volatile
Northeast.

The operator xians call the Pope who runs the Pedophilic Church is a key
figure in all this. His handlers or the dying man himself is now engaged in
a bogus exercise called "beatification". An Albanian woman who became a
Catholic nun because she could not find a husband and who worked as his
agent in Kolkata performing unlawful conversions will soon be a xian saint.
The whole fraud - the whole crooked game - is aimed at generating
accpetability to xian machinations and mischief in India.

Among those thrilled by the prospect of this sainthood are the following. Don't look
for normal people like you and me in this crowd: the Nehru family, the
Congress Party, xians, muslims, internationalists, supranationalists,
people married to foreigners, people married to xians, those
contemplating such unions, Justices of the Supreme Court, dhimmis in the GOI,
dopey Hindu swamis like the Shankaracharya of Puri and of course the good
old pseudosecular Hindus and the suave and secular columnists and editors in the
English media who will talk and write about this 24/7 until the now dead little old lady
from Kolkata is declared a saint by the Pedophilic Church in Rome.

Sainthood to the Albanian nun from Kolkata would give a boost to illegal
conversions here the Pope mistakenly figures. A Western news magazine called
him a great Pope in a recent cover story. What's great about this Pope is he's
dying. What's great about other popes and xian saints is they're dead.

Their odd names are not the only problem with Indian xians. They're self-haters.
They have no natural identity of their own - it's imposed and artificial. Their savior
is not one of their own - he's a Palestinian. They're neither here nor there. Their
allegiance to the country in which they live is dubious. Their leaders are living in
the nineteenth century taking orders from foreign masters. Their leaders also
egg them on into ongoing attacks and denigration of our national traditions. In
the Northeast, xianity breeds terrorists funded by foreign churches.

Communism, xianity and islam are mind****ing ideologies. Communism is dead
although it persists in some form in Cuba and China. There are reports that xianity
is dying in Europe which is supposedly returning to its pagan roots. These reports
may be exaggerated. Islam shows no signs of moderation and accomodation
with others and continues to be as ferocious as ever.

In Kerala, all three ideologies have been at work and have wreaked havoc. Despite
their boast of 100% literacy statewide, Keralites have little national presence in higher
education and science. They have the highest suicide rate. The state is an economic
basket case. Some are already calling it the Bihar of the South.

Indian xians and muslims are not refugees like the Tibetans who may be hoping to
return home someday. They are not permanent immigrants like the Zoroastrians
who brought their religion along with them. They are unlike the Jewish Diaspora who
went back to Israel after its creation. Indian xians and muslims are our own people.
This is their homeland. Their ancestors were forcibly converted during a period
of occupation by foreign armies. They should study the savage records of xianity
and islam in India. They should discover their roots and come back home to our
national faiths.

Message by: vasants
hindunationalists @yahoogroups.com
June 10, 2003

Xianity and Cannibalism

we had a strange encounter with xianity recently ... we bought a
house ... the sellers were devout xians ... packed in their freezer
were body parts of unwanted children ... this prompted us to
undertake an investigative journey into xianity and cannibalism ...

xianity is a religion famed for promoting fornication involving
various permutations and combinations of nuns, priests and the
laity, pedophilia, and anything-goes paraphilia within the church and
the larger society in which it operates ... it advocates witch-burning ...
it instigates terrorism ... it denigrates other faiths far superior to itself ...
but does it really promote cannibalism ... we know the church is not
safe for children especially young boys ... they'll be prey to its priests ...
what about adults ... should they be concerned about cannibals
masquerading as priests within the church ...

cannibalism is in fact a part of mainstream xianity ... its origins can
be traced back to the founder of the xian religion itself ... mr. christ
grew up in remote parts of europe in cannibal communities and
eating human flesh and drinking human blood was a dietary
philosophy he promoted vigorously throughout his spiritual
career ... he believed that cannibalism saves souls ...

in the xian holy book he says:

"... Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye
have no life in you.

Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and
I will raise him up at the last day.

For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me,
and I in him. "

mr. christ was an interesting person ... he had spiritual
insight ... he says you can defeat Death by eating human flesh and
drinking human blood ... further he says if you're already dead
and buried, you can claw and climb your way out of the grave and
head straight for the local nudie bar ... but the authorities didn't
think any of this was funny or interesting and thought he was a
cannibal and crucified him ...

it's not always easy to interpret an old scriptural passage like the
one above ... there may well be other interpretations ... it's
possible that, like his miracle of the "multiplying bread", he was
promising a non-decomposing "multiplying corpse" after his
crucifixion for xians to eat flesh and drink blood from ... so that
they can become more like him with all his special powers ...

although cannibalism is a part of mainstream xianity, luckily
only a small segment of the population practices it ... and they
do it secretly ... although xians generally eat all kinds of animals
that are still alive, kicking and fighting for their life, it is not
known exactly what they do when it comes to eating people ...

where do xian cannibals find the people they can eat - alive or
dead ... homeless people are a major source ... big city parks are the
hunting grounds of choice ... many of the homeless just seem to
disappear every night ...

in xian countries you'll be struck by the number of children
reported missing every day of the year ... their pictures are
everywhere ... most pictures end up in the street clogging storm
drains ... little is done to find the missing ones or why so many
are disappearing in the first place ...

homeless people and children are not the only ones reported
missing every day in christendom ... Hindus are beginning to
disappear too these days ...

Hindus are considered formidable ... Hindu flesh is a spiritual
force multiplier ... It's prime beef ...

at the bottom you have the baptists and the 7th-day-adventists
whose flesh reportedly tastes like anchovies ... in between you
have other xian denominations and they taste variously according
to their standing - like horsemeat, chicken and so on ...

So then, coming back to our discussion on how to tackle aggressive conversions -
The only sensible way would be to influence the temples to undertake welfare activities keeping aside their belief of "jaat".
We are not here to rant anti christian or anti islam slogans and we should not stoop low to the level of hating someone simply because they believe in a different faith. India - an epitome of secularism, we should always remember that christians, muslims and other relegious groups are as much Indians as Hindus.
Matter of fact, the Hindu population itself has a wedge among the people. One can see how much divided we ourselves are and that too over petty issues.
Now when a government fails to fullfill the promises made to the poor during election time and when the under priviliged sees that the promises made to him were only promises, he gives up. Then all of a sudden a missionary or a cleric shows up. A bright light in a dark tunnel. What would the poor do? Refuse the money he's being offered to convert to a different faith and starve his family off to death? Send his children to do house hold and sanitory work in a wealthy house instead of going to school? Marry his daughter off at a young age to some filthy man or have her bear the taunts of the society for her being single and considered a burden on her family only because her father cannot afford to give suitable gifts(and please don't tell me those days are gone and nobody believes in dowry any more)to the groom? Have his sons and daughters beg for alms at crossings and intersections in throbbing metropolises?!
The social structure of our own people is so full of disgust that the ones who are being converted are actually forced by us only.
Who are we to make a hue and cry over conversions when we ourselves turn a blind eye to the miseries of our brothers only because they're coming from the strata of society that we consider to be untouchable or poor and we do not find it worth our time to help them out because we are already too preoccupied with our own problems!?
Listen my brothers, lets not just sit and talk like a "gram panchayat" and pass derogatory comments about other relegions. Discussions without any results are nothing more than lip service. We have a mission to achieve. We get all fired up when wrong is done to our culture our way of life but what do we do? We take out our fury in typing messages full of hatred and feel satisfied.
No! This won't help.
We need dedicated and serious people who love other people but at the same time are loyal to their own way of life. After all there is no doubt in the fact that Sanatan Dharma is the only true and original Dharma of the universe.
But that does not give us the permission or the right to look at others who believe differently with such hate and disgust.
A man is not forced into conversion. Rather a man is influenced to convert.
They give him rewards and he needs those rewards. If our own people and temples had been wise enough to do welfare activities (which originally in the ancient days they used to) instead of indulging in racial prejudice towards the poor and the ones that they labelled untouchables, such conversions wouldn't have happened in the first place.
We lost our independence to the muslim invaders only because we ourselves had failed our kin.
But India as it stands of today, cannot survive if there is such a strife among the many believers it has. We all should shift our paradigm and look at ourselves as Bharatvaasis first.
Rather than propagating extremist measures, we should deal with this problem diplomatically. We should use the tools used by the dubious missionaries and clerics. We should not curse the man who's already converted or is getting converted. We should make that man a bigger promise than the one made by the enemy and we should ensure that the promise is fullfilled.
Give a better choice and it will stop.
Eventually the day will come when there wouldn't be any conversions taking place.
And while doing this, we have to under any circumstances ensure that the state is not involved in any kind of activity that would help the missionaries and make there jobs easier.
India is not a safe haven for the ones who believe in changing a person's faith and we should make sure that the state doesn't prove this wrong.
And again, instead of wasting our fire in useless rhetoric about all this we must do some actual ground work.

But in the end we should always remember, Indians first beliefs later. No matter what faith a person belongs to, he's a rightfull citizen of our nation. They are our brothers too. That is the true essence of Sanatan Dharma, of Bharatvarsha.
Jai Ma Bharati!

christ was a fagot. he was a cannibal.
christians are homo-cannibals.

Homo-cannibals. That's funny.

I liked the one about the new pope, namely:

Rat's Ass Inger XVI or Bene Dickhead 10-5-1.

That's hilarious.

After reading the piece Xianity and Cannibalism
I'm convinced that christ was a cannibal.

These mofos are still operating in many parts
of our country. They've been around some
450 years. Most Hindus as usual remain
uninformed about who they are and what they
are about. There's little difference between
them and any other xian sect operating in the
country.

BBG


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The Jesuit Oath Exposed

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"Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated."
Professor Arthur Noble

[The following is the text of the Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216), from which it was subsequently torn out. The Oath is also quoted by Charles Didier in his book Subterranean Rome (New York, 1843), translated from the French original. Dr. Alberto Rivera, who escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, confirms that the induction ceremony and the text of the Jesuit Oath which he took were identical to what we have cited below. – A. N.]

When a Jesuit of the minor rank is to be elevated to command, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order, where there are only three others present, the principal or Superior standing in front of the altar. On either side stands a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the Papal colours, and the other a black banner with a dagger and red cross above a skull and crossbones, with the word INRI, and below them the words IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIUS. The meaning of which is: It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical Kings, Governments, or Rulers.

Upon the floor is a red cross at which the postulant or candidate kneels. The Superior hands him a small black crucifix, which he takes in his left hand and presses to his heart, and the Superior at the same time presents to him a dagger, which he grasps by the blade and holds the point against his heart, the Superior still holding it by the hilt, and thus addresses the postulant:

(The Superior speaks:)

My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant; and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope. You have been taught to plant insidiously the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and to incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace; to take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means. You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death. You have received all your instructions heretofore as a novice, a neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested with all that is necessary to command in the Army of Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must serve the proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated his labours with the blood of the heretic; for "without the shedding of blood no man can be saved". Therefore, to fit yourself for your work and make your own salvation sure, you will, in addition to your former oath of obedience to your order and allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me:

(Text of the Oath:)

I_______________ , now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness, the Pope, is Christ's Vice-Regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by the virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given to His Holiness by my Saviour, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical Kings, Princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of my power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness's right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the continent of America and elsewhere and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now denounce and disown any allegiance as due to any heretical king, prince or State, named Protestant or Liberal, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers. I do further declare the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same. I do further declare that I will help, assist, and advise all or any of His Holiness's agents, in any place where I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland or America, or in any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that, notwithstanding, I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest; to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels from time to time, as they entrust me, and not to divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered unto me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order. I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the militia of the Pope and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whithersoever I may be sent, to the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to the centres of civilisation of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the barbarous savages of America without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive in all things, whatsoever is communicated to me. I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus. In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all corporal powers, and with the dagger which I now receive I will subscribe my name written in my blood in testimony thereof; and should I prove false, or weaken in my determination, may my brethren and fellow soldiers of the militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur burned therein with all the punishment that can be inflicted upon me on earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal hell forever. That I will in voting always vote for a Knight of Columbus in preference to a Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party so to do; that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made of the inner movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed, or I am commanded to defend the Church either as an individual or with the militia of the Pope. All of which I,_______________, do swear by the blessed Trinity and blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to perform and on part to keep this my oath. In testimony hereof, I take this most holy and blessed sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal in the face of this holy sacrament.

(He receives the wafer from the Superior and writes his name with the point of his dagger dipped in his own blood taken from over his heart.)

(Superior speaks:)

You will now rise to your feet and I will instruct you in the Catechism necessary to make yourself known to any member of the Society of Jesus belonging to this rank. In the first place, you, as a Brother Jesuit, will with another mutually make the ordinary sign of the cross as any ordinary Roman Catholic would; then one crosses his wrists, the palms of his hands open, and the other in answer crosses his feet, one above the other; the first points with forefinger of the right hand to the centre of the palm of the left, the other with the forefinger of the left hand points to the centre of the palm of the right; the first then with his right hand makes a circle around his head, touching it; the other then with the forefinger of his left hand touches the left side of his body just below his heart; the first then with his right hand draws it across the throat of the other, and the latter then with a dagger down the stomach and abdomen of the first. The first then says Iustum; and the other answers Necar; the first Reges; the other answers Impious. The first will then present a small piece of paper folded in a peculiar manner, four times, which the other will cut longitudinally and on opening the name Jesu will be found written upon the head and arms of a cross three times. You will then give and receive with him the following questions and answers:

From whither do you come? Answer: The Holy faith.

Whom do you serve? Answer: The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church Universal throughout the world.

Who commands you? Answer: The Successor of St. Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Society of Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ.

Who received you? Answer: A venerable man in white hair.

How? Answer: With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon the cross beneath the banners of the Pope and of our sacred order.

Did you take an oath? Answer: I did, to destroy heretics and their governments and rulers, and to spare neither age, nor sex, nor condition; to be as a corpse without any opinion or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my Superiors in all things without hesitation or murmuring.

Will you do that? Answer: I will.

How do you travel? Answer: In the bark of Peter the fisherman.

Whither do you travel? Answer: To the four quarters of the globe.

For what purpose? Answer: To obey the orders of my General and Superiors and execute the will of the Pope and faithfully fulfil the conditions of my oaths.

Go ye, then, into all the world and take possession of all lands in the name of the Pope. He who will not accept him as the Vicar of Jesus and his Vice-Regent on earth, let him be accursed and exterminated.

[Note: The following books on (or particularly relevant to) the Jesuits are held by the EIPS Library:

Anon.: The Female Jesuit. London, 1851

Anon.: The Mystery of Jesuitism. London, 1658

Anon.: The Secret Instructions of the Jesuits. London, 1824

Anon.: The Secret Instructions of the Jesuits. London, 1824

Barrett, E.B.: The Jesuit Enigma. London, 1929

Barthel, M: The Jesuits. New York, 1984

Bert, M.P.: Gury's Doctrines of the Jesuits. London, 1947

Blakeney, R.P.: Alphonsus Liguori. London, 1852

Brodrick, J., S.J.: The Origin of the Jesuits. New York, 1960

Bungener, L.L.F.: The Jesuits in France or The Priest and the Huguenot. London, 1859

Coape, H.C.: In a Jesuit Net. London, no date

Dalton, E.: The Jesuits. London, 1843

De Courson, R.: Concerning Jesuits. London, 1902

Gallahue, J.: The Jesuit. New York, 1973

Goodier, A.: The Jesuits. London, 1929

Griesinger, T.: History of the Jesuits. London, 1903

Groves, H.C.: The Doctrines and Practices of the Jesuits. London, 1889

Hanna, S.: Jesuitism: or Catholic Action. Belfast, 1938

Hastings, M.: Jesuit Child. Newton Abbot, 1972

Hillerbrand, H.: The Reformation. A Narrative History related by Contemporary Observers and Participants. Ann Arbor, 1989

Lathbury, T.: The State of Popery and Jesuitism in England. London, 1838

Lehmann, L.H.: The Secret of Catholic Power. New York, no date

Liguori, A.M.: The Council of Trent. Dublin, 1846

MacPherson, H.: The Jesuits in History. London, 1914

Martin, M.: The Jesuits. New York, 1987

Nicolini, G.B.: History of the Jesuits. London, 1854

Paisley, I.R.K.: The Jesuits. Belfast, no date

Paris, E.: The Secret History of the Jesuits. London, 1975

Ridley, F.A.: The Jesuits: A Study in Counter-Revolution. London, 1938

Roberts, Archbishop, S.J.: Black Popes. London, 1954

Robertson, A.: The Roman Catholic Church in Italy. London, 1903

Seebohm, F.: The Epoch of the Protestant Reformation. London, 1877

Seymour, M.H.: Mornings among the Jesuits at Rome. London, 1850

Steinmetz, A.: History of the Jesuits. London, 1848 (3 Vols.)

Walsh, W.: The Jesuits in Great Britain. New York, 1903

Wild, J.: Canada and the Jesuits. Toronto, 1889

Wylie, J.A.: Jesuitism: Its Rise, Progress and Insidious Workings. London, no date

Ybarra, T.R. (translator): The Kaiser's Memoirs, by Wilhelm II. New York, 1922]



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