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Re: The Role of the Preacher

July 1 2006 at 12:08 PM
 
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Response to The Role of the Preacher

Ephesians 4 does not include PREACHER in the congregation. Rather, the teachers of the congregation are PASTOR-TEACHERS which is a hyphenated word.

His rule is to "teach that which has been taught" and to "refute those who contradict it."

Obedience means to GIVE HEED to His teaching from Scripture and "watch the outcome of HIS life."

The church is EKKLESIA and is narrowly defined in Romans 14 specificially to EXCLUDE those things we INCLUDE. The role of the ekklesia or synagogue is to speak with ONE MIND and ONE MOUTH using "that which is written" which Paul defines as "scripture." The process produces EDUCATION, glorifying God who wrote the only LITERATURE, to Comfort through the Scriptures and thereby prevent DISUNITY.

The Preacher is the EVANGELIST and there are no "located travelling salesmen." Paul's example and direct command is that "if he will not work neither shall he eat." While roles authorize the DAILY DOLE of food for the Temple worker or the man who developes his OWN FLOCK or plants HIS OWN vineyard, you cannot charge for the FREE GOSPEL without attracting all of those who see godliness as a means of financial gain: that means as PROFESSION.

The preacher is the HERALD and he will be executed if he ALTERS the message sent from the king to the field commanders. Peter MARKED them by insisting that what would be left as a MEMORY must be taught without "private interpretation" which means further expounding. Paul told Timothy to give heed (a worship word) to the public reading of the Word, to exhorting people to obey that read portion and to explain any doctrinal content.

There was no confusion for hundreds of years.

Plato, Laws [941a] Athenian

If anyone, while acting as ambassador [presb-eutês] or herald [kerus-preacher],
conveys false messages from his State to another State,
or fails to deliver the ACTA; message he was sent to deliver,
or is proved to have brought back, as ambassador or herald,

either from a friendly or hostile nation, their reply in a false form,--against all such there shall be laid an indictment for breaking the law by sinning against the sacred messages [apang-ellô] and injunctions of Hermes1 and Zeus, and an assessment shall be made of the penalty they shall suffer or pay,
Note 1 Son, and herald, of Zeus, and a master of speech (and of lies).

The Laws EXCLUDED from any consideration any PHILOSOPHER or POET. That would mean that it is UNLAWFUL to hire a preacher who is a DOCTOR OF THE LAW or who is trained the HYPOCRITICAL SECTS' skills menaing "rhetoricians, sOPHISts (serpents), singers, musicians or craftsmen." The latter are "theater builders and stage managers." John In Revelation 18 defines their role as that of SORCERY by which they deceived the nations.

If you have a performance preacher, jokester, clown, singer, musician or actor then you have HIRED those whom Jesus DESPISED as being Hypocrites.

Plato, Laws [941b] Athenian

[941b] if convicted. Theft of property is uncivilized, open robbery is shameless: neither of these has any of the sons of Zeus practiced, through delight in fraud or force.

Let no man, therefore, be deluded concerning this
or persuaded either by poets
or by any perverse myth-mongers


into the belief that, when he thieves or forcibly robs,
he is doing nothing shameful,
but just what the gods themselves do.
1
    1 Cp.Plat. Rep 378 ff., Plat. Rep. 388 ff. Hermes is specially in mind, as notorious for his thefts and frauds; cp. Homer Iliad 5. 390; 24. 395, etc.
That is both unlikely and untrue; and whoever acts thus unlawfully is neither a god at all nor a child of gods;

I will post some BIBLICAL commands which demand the same thing. If you have anyone who us USED to suck in the SEEKERS (A Hitler term) you have been TAKEN CAPTIVE. There is NO ROLE for anyone to embellish the Word of God because that would BE a heretic.

And, you have NO mandate from the Bible and early church history be be a SOCIAL GOSPEL agency. You are CIRCUMSCRIBED by the demand to be a synagogue or SCHOOL of the Bible. Those who prospered gave to those who were DESTITUTE but there was never any LEGALISTIC CLAIM the church could make on its members. You MAY be in the worst kind of CULT not even kissing kin to what Jesus died for give us so that we can REST from RITUALS and the BURDEN LADERS.

If you are involved with a PERFORMANCE based church either preaching, music or acting, you should understand that all of history proves that you are in a deep psychological BONDAGE which automatically drives people MADE when they denounce their OLD RELIGION. As well known, they CRACK AWAY to an archaic form of RELIGIONISM which their primative brain NEEDS to cope with TOTAL LOSS of modern personhood.

 
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