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  • No, Bobby!

    • Posted Jul 30, 2006 12:16 PM

      Now, Bobby, if you read Romans 14 you will discover that people have many DIVERSITIES of opinions. Paul pointed directly to the functions of the human body--eating and drinking--as NOT related to the Kingdom of god. Jesus said the kingdom of God is WITHIN your own human spirit or mind. Therefore, what goes INTO the mind and OUT of the Mind or Spirit are the arena of the kingdom where we worship in the PLACE of the human spirit. This is the only Place God intends to seek our worship and that is why baptism is a REQUEST for Him to give us A holy spirit or A good conscience so that the WORD which is SPIRIT will stick in the mind.

      The major SECTARIANS Paul had to confront in Rome were Orphics who were the only vegetarians or bean eaters who were ADDICTED to singing and twanging instruments in order to bring on the MADNESS which they peddled as the "gods" or "demons" indwelling. Their WORSHIP had been highly regulated in Rome before the time of Christ and they were limited to small assemblies and NEVER IN THE DARKNESS. They thought that they could REVEL in the night and not get hurt. The MUSIC--as they tried by PIPING hoping that Jesus woudl SING and DANCE the Dionysus perverted "bowing to Baal" was intended to HIDE the horrors of the person being INITIATED.

      "Having descended to the Underworld, Orpheus accompanied his words with the music of the lyre, and it is told that not only the spirits wept but that also the ERINYES were wet with tears. He also entranced Persephone by his songs, and persuaded her to help him in his desire to bring back to life his dead wife. And so even Hades himself was persuaded to let her go.

      Pythagoras [similar to Orphics] was trained in Egypt, where he received instructions in the universal mysteries. Math, geometry, and astronomy are important, but an indepth study of music, harmonics, and intervals, as they relate to states of consciousness, is an indispensable component


      The Dionysics were the WINE DRINKERS and MEAT EATERS.

      Paul said that ANY personal diversity or religious practice including diet were NOT subject to doubtful disputations. That means that because of the WEAKNESS of many people, God provided a PLACE as school of the BIBLE where the PRIVATE LIVES of people is NOT subject to regulation by a CLERGY system. It also means WE WILL NOT DEBATE private diversities becaus SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE does not GO THERE except as the READ text brings it up.

      Then, without dipping his pen, Paul launched into defining a SYNAGOGUE (he uses synagogue in words like gathering and assembly). He OUTLAWED personal pleasuring which is means "creation of mental excitement." You remember that Jesus died to give us REST from the Burden Laders who "created spiritual anxiety through religious rituals." Hand clapping CREATES that and even FEAR from the startle reflex. You will notice that when babies are startled they often giggle. However, it is NOT a good idea to mentally aggitate your children.

      Paul connects that SPIRITUAL EXCITEMENT to the REPROACHES Jesus was prophesied to undergo. This was musical mocking and MAKING NAKED and exposing Jesus was part of the "musical TRIUMPH OVER" or Alarm of Psalm 41. The evidence of contemporaneous writers was that this meant SODOMIZING Jesus.

      Then, Paul defined the Christian Synagogue like the Jewish Synagogue or the "church in the wilderness" which HAD NO PRAISE SERVICE. Do you need a LAW to prevent the infantile clapping and music when Jesus agrees to MEET with us as TEACHER?

      Then, Paul define the ASSEMBLY as EXAMPLED by Jesus as to use ONE MIND and ONE MOUTH to speak THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN or SCRIPTURE. The result would be edificaton or EDUCATION, Glorifying God who wrote the PSALMS by the Spirit of Christ, Comfort one another and KEEP THE UNITY. Paul went on to say that YOU ARE COMPETENT TO TEACH ONE ANOTHER. That was a DOOR to shut out anyone who wanted to INVADE and traffic some song or philosophical sermone.

      Neither Romans 15 nor the other "singing" passages authorize AROUSAL SINGING which MARKED the Israelites as MUSICAL IDOLATERS even through the ears of Moses. The word SPEAK and ODE have the same meaning as PSALMOS meaning "in the form of Hebrew cantillation." That means SPEAK as in the word SPEAK and not SANG as be an idolater and a mocker of Jesus and HIS Words which He identified as SPIRIT and LIFE.

      The literature DEFINES these words for SPEAK specificially for the Ekklesia (or synagogue) as "In a whisper or conversational tone." The word speak as related to the LOGOS or WORD means to "speak as OPPOSED to MUSIC."

      Lifting holy hands meant lifting up the PALMS (not arms) about waist high with palms UP as if, in the words of David, "I lift up my hands to thy Word."

      The shift from THE WORD to MUSIC is the MARK of people deliberately trying to HIDE the WORD of God from you. They are consious or UNconsious agents of Lucifer (Zoe) called in Eden "the singing and harp playing prostitute." PLAY music and PLAY sexually have about the same meaning.

      People CLAP in order to make SYMPHONY or the only "music" word by making you "MOVE YOUR BODIES TOGETHER." That was practiced as the male symposia where the flute-girl meant prostitute and to facilitate "getting drunk on wine" or the MALE musicians who were always DRUNK or PERVERTS. Musicians and singers "were happy to be the harem of the Gods" and ALL of recorded history means that the MUSICATORS with their VOODOO clapping are SUBJECTING you to a KNOWING RELATIONSHIP with the UNholy spirits. Maybe WACKO but there is NO KNOWN EXCEPTION (beginning with the serpent meaning Musical Enchanter) where Paul said that Eve (ZOE) was wholly sexually seduced. Zoe is called the BEAST and the FEMALE INSTRUCTING PRINCIPLE.

      You have to deny that there ARE (the many) of UNHOLY SPIRITS occupying the UNLAWFUL PULPITS in order to deny that the POPULAR CLUSTERS are collections of Satan or Lucifer Worship. Many were trained by ZOE which means LUCIFER.

      In the end time, Apollo or Abaddon or Apollyon and his LOCUSTS (musical performers) is the NAME OF the Devil and the "musical performers" (re 18) for the Holy Whore (re 17) are defined as SORCERERS who have ALREADY removed the CANDLES or the "seven Spirits of God" meaning ALL knowledge. That is the PATTERNISM of Amos 5f, Isaiah 5 and other examples where the WINE, WOMEN AND MUSIC dried up the WATER OF THE WORD and your people die of THIRST and are taken into captivity. Even in the garden, the Musical Enchanter caused the loss of access to the TREE of Life which was Christ as the WORD.

      I dare assert--and you will find no exception in the Bible or any published contemporaneous literature--that when the MUSICIANS stand in the Holy Places (of Church architecture or Pulpits) claiming to LEAD you into the presence of God they ARE claiming to be GOD. That means that you could not FABRICATE a more perfect example of SATAN having taken captive your "church" and YOU LOVE TO HAVE IT SO.
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