The word "Jew" was not around during Jesus's time.
The word Jew arrived when the 1611 King James Bible
was revised and it was an abreviation for Judea,
which was an area. Jesus was a Judean, like a
person from Texas would be a Texan.
We have been taught that all people calling themselves
Jews today are God's chosen people. The word Jew
as it's used today conotates a religious belief.
Not all people calling themselves Jews are
descendents from the seed of Abraham.
In fact 80% of the Jews on the earth today are
NOT from the seed of Abraham.
They are descendents of the Khazars, which took
on the Jewish customs around 450 AD.
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In the Greek New Testament ("Textus Receptus"), the word currently translated "Jews" is derived from several words referring to the area of Palestine known as Judea. Words in "Strong's Concordance" are numbered for reference. Looking up word number 2453 for "Jews," we get the following leads:
"2449 Ioudaia ee-oo-dah'-yah feminine of 2453 (with 1093 implied); the Judaean land (i.e. Judaea), a region of Palestine:--Judaea."
"2450 Ioudaizo ee-oo-dah-id'-zo from 2453; to become a Judaean, i.e. "Judaize":--live as the Jews."
"2451 Ioudaikos ee-oo-dah-ee-kos' from 2453; Judaic, i.e. resembling a Judaean:--Jewish."
"2453 Ioudaios ee-oo-dah'-yos from 2448 (in the sense of 2455 as a country); Judaean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah:--Jew(-ess), of Judaea."
Even when their enemies drive them into captivity, from there I will command the sword to kill them. I will not let them out of my sight; they will experience disaster, not prosperity." Amos 9:4
The sovereign Lord who leads armies will do this. He touches the earth and it dissolves; all who live on it mourn. The whole earth rises like the River Nile, and then grows calm like the Nile in Egypt. Amos 9:5
"You Israelites are just like the Ethiopians in my sight," says the Lord. "Certainly I brought Israel up from the land of Egypt, but I also brought the Philistines from Caphtor and the Arameans from Kir. Amos 9:7
Look, the sovereign Lord is watching the sinful nation, and I will destroy it from the face of the earth. But I will not completely destroy the family of Jacob," says the Lord. Amos 9:8
"For look, I am giving a command and I will shake the family of Israel together with all the nations. It will resemble a sieve being shaken, when not even a pebble falls to the ground. Amos 9:9
All the sinners among my people will die by the sword, the ones who say, 'Disaster will not come near, it will not confront us.' Amos 9:10
Have you noted that they young "ministers" coming out of universities pledged to train them as Prophets, Chanellers and facilitators also train them that the musical worship as part of the Abominationof Desolation in the temple is OK and ALSO teach them to say Je 'Zeus?
Jesus defined the SONS OF THE DEVIL as those who "speak on their own." However, He said:
I speak that which I have seen with MY FATHER: and ye do that which ye have SEEN with YOUR father. John 8:38
....They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father . Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abrahams children, ye would do the works of Abraham. John 8:39
In other words, they are NOT children of SARAH but Ishmaelites or Arabs or the descendants of Cain, Kenites, Canaanites who DID survive the flood. Hagar stands for Law, Mount Sinai, Jerusalem, Slavery and Sodom.
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. John 8:40
..Ye do the deeds of YOUR father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. John 8:41
....Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. John 8:42
That is, God WAS NOT their father:
Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye CANNOT hear my word . John 8:43
..Ye are of your FATHER the DEVIL , and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
....because there is NO TRUTH in HIM.
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is OF THE TRUTH heareth my voice. Jn.18:37
OF CAIN (the father of the musicians)
Not as Cain, who was OF that WICKED one , and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brothers righteous. 1 Jn 3:12
..When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the FATHER of it. Jn.8:44
...And because I tell you the truth, ye BELIEVE ME NOT. John 8:45
SO, THERE YOU HAVE IT: PEOPLE LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL IN THE NAME OF THE LORD BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF THE TRUTH.
Which of you convinceth me of sin? And IF I SAY THE TRUTH , why do ye not believe me? John 8:46
....He that is OF God heareth Gods words : ye therefore HEAR them NOT, because ye are NOT OF GOD . John 8:47
AMOS warns ISRAEL that they were carrying out their DEATH SENTENCE imposed because of Musical Idolatry at Mount Sinai. Because they refused to repent but CELEBRATED their freedom from God, the sentance was carried out and the majority of ISRAEL went into captivity and death.
THE BIBLE TESTAMENT IDENTIFIES JERUSALEM WITH MOUNT SINAI, THE TEMPLE, JERUSALEM AND SODOM:
NOW Sarai Abrams wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar Ge.16:1
And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha. Ro.9:29
For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. Ga.4:25
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Re.11:8
THE "JEWS'" DENIED THAT THEY HAD EVER BEEN IN BONDAGE:
They answered him, We be Abrahams seed, and were NEVER in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? John 8:33
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. John 8:34
..And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. John 8:35
....If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. John 8:36
I know that ye are Abrahams seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. John 8:37
The Jerusalem of the time of Jesus was not populated by the children of promise. That is why perhaps 5,000 people were baptized and left Jerusalem. However, of the general population Josephesus says that a million perished. This was not unlike the curse of the Exodus. Numbers up to 3 million have been suggested as escaping Egypt as they brought their idols and idolatry with them. Perhaps 50,000 returned from Babylon captivity. Of that number only 5,000 were saved.
Ken
This message has been edited by ConcernedMembers from IP address 65.80.170.51 on Jan 11, 2004 9:56 AM
The historical information your provide is interesting. Yet two things lead me to believe that what you say is not true. First, you do not cite where you received your information. There is no credibility in your statement. If you could prove that the information you present came from a credible, respected academic source, I might believe you. Second, the geneology of Jesus in Matthew explicitly ties Jesus to the children of Abraham. Jesus was Jewish in ethnicity, culture and religion. Indeed, Jesus Himself stated that he came not to abolish the Law but to fulfill it. Jesus was and is the fulfillment of the promises of God to the Fathers of the Jews.
As for Mr. Sublett's post, it would make you more credible if you checked and stated the contexts of the verses you quote. It is irresponsible and ungodly to snap up a piece of Scripture out of context. If it were possible to pick out any verse you want, anyone can make the Bible say anything. It is through context that the full meaning and intentions of God are conveyed through His Word.
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What Happened At the Madison Church of Christ?
There are thousands of churches being taken over across America.
This book is only about one of those churches. It's about the Madison
Church Of Christ. By studying the methods used here along with the resource
references you might be able to inoculate your church. At the very least
you will recognize the signs early on.
Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't
know what happened.
Some never will know! This book is for them as well.
Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was
one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.
It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of
it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word
of Jesus Christ.
At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority
of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly
realm.
They used secrecy, covert planning, and outside sources to scheme and
to change the format and direction of the Madison Church of Christ.
The Elders knew that the membership would never approve such a plan.
Using the tools of the "Community Church Movement"(consultants, books,
seminars, meetings,planters,seeders) they slowly started initiating change
so it was never noticed by the members until it was too late.....
At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to
be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched
through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the
"Community Church Movement"
Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready,
or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the
plans very nature, it had to be secret.
The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was
never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last
15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.
The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the
elders went along unwittingly.
This edition starts shortly after some of the members begin to smell
something strange in January 2001. Later editions may go back and fill
in some of the timeline.
To even start to understand whats happening here, you must read the
background materials in the first of the book.
This is only the first edition, and not the end. New editions will be
printed as needed. To keep abreast of current changes, please visit our
web site; http://www.concernedmembers.com/madison
Here is the list of players;
5 Godly Elders
10 Not so Godly Elders
120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten
commandments)
Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)