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"Vows, Covenants, The Jew, & Global Unity" on this site

April 6 2005 at 10:17 PM
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Look, I sympathize with many of you on this site. I'm no longer church of Christ but I would hate it if my congregation was starting to wave hands in the air, sing silly songs, and do what I think of as "holy roller stuff." I think it's silly, ridiculous, and...are there any other words that mean "silly and ridiculous?"

That said, WHAT!!!!!!!!! is an article called "Vows, Covenants, the Jew, & Global Unity" doing linked from this site, under "Oaths and covenants" on the front page?????
I do not believe the site that it links to is written by a church of Christ person. My concern is that 1) as strict as the church of Christ is/was, I NEVER!!!!!!!! heard any church of Christ parents, preacher, old people, etc. ever spout any "Worldwide Jewish conspiracy" stuff. 2) I do not believe the church of Christ teaches that stuff. The article that is linked from this site seems to be from "Endtimes Ministries" and says "in the Last Days the Jewish nation will accept the Antichrist religious system"
Were we not taught in the church of Christ that this stuff had ALREADY taken place, and was I not taught that those "Last Days" people were Assembly of God (holy rollers?)

My main concern is THIS makes the church of Christ look like something I never thought it was. I have always said it was strict but didn't believe in THAT kind of stuff. What if I (or any of us) applies for a job, tell where we went to college, and our potential boss googles the church of Christ and finds THAT???? It looks like we were brought up in the Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord or The Order!

I do not believe the church of Christ teaches this or that that site is written by a church of Christ writer.
So why is it linked?

Jesus was a Jew, so were the Apostles! I was always taught to respect the Jews because Jesus was a Jew. I have never heard anything anti-Semitic in the church of Christ, especially not this "new world order in the last days" stuff.

I hope someone will see fit to please remove anything about the "JEW and the New World Order" from this site which is clearly a church of Christ site, one that is striving to preserve the old ways. Well, the old ways didn't include any Jew-World-Takeover stuff that I remember!

 
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David Rhoades

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Re: "Vows, Covenants, The Jew, & Global Unity" on this site

April 9 2005, 1:03 PM 

Dear Guest, Thank you for your questions.

I think they are relevant, and very important. In fact I'm surprised someone hasn't raised them before now.

Question Number 1. About this being a church of Christ web site.

This web site is NOT a church! Many of the writers on this site are members of the church of Christ, because it was started by members and former members of the Madison Church of Christ.

The purpose of this web site as stated on the 1st page;

"No one here will admonish anyone for worshipping God in what ever manner they believe to be correct. However, when someone subverts an existing Church by secrecy and deceit against the principles of it's founders and members...
...WE HAVE A PROBLEM!"

It is our belief, and still is, that if our fellow Christians were informed about who was responsible for taking over these churches, then they would be able to resist this with God's help.

This phenomenon is world wide, and is taking place in many Christian churches. We link to a great many articles to give our readers the best understanding. God gave you the ability to discern. All we hope to do is to give you enough information to make that possible.

I'm sure not everyone of the ConcernedMembers at this site agrees with everything posted here. However, we are all in agreement of seeking the truth. Sometimes you must cut through a lot of rubbish to gleam a few small nuggets of truth.

One of the greatest dangers today is accepting information unquestioned coming from our pulpits, and from the news media.

The answer to very question you have asked, can be already found on this web site. This only illustrates the problem today of Christians not studying their Bibles, and relying on "Popes" from the pulpit to define and confabulate the Bibles meaning to us.

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Question Number 2, about "Jews"

First, lets define the word "Jew". Jew was originally used as an abbreviation for those from Judah who were Judeans.

We have misused the word in reascent times, using it to represent all "Jews" regardless of whether they originally from Judah.

Let's say you and your family take up the Jewish customs, names, and worship practices of the original Judeans.

Would this make you a Jew? Would this make you a chosen one of God, even if your seed did not originate with Abraham?

You see, what most of us did not know untill here lately, is that 80% of those calling themselves Jews in the world today are not from the seed of Abraham.

They are descendants of the Khazars, which took on the Jewish customs around 450 AD.

Are they still the chosen ones?

There are some very good articles explaining this, that are posted below. And there are other articles if you do a Google search for the difference between the Ashenazi Jew and he Sepharti Jew.

In the meantime try to do your own studying, don't depend on what your told.

Thanks

David Rhoades



http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm

http://www.spiritandtruth.freeservers.com/antichrist.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/il2/HebrewIsraelites2/edom.html

http://www.steelhorsemag.com/christians3.htm







 
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Joe

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Give'm both barrels

April 12 2005, 12:05 PM 

Good shot David.
Here, let me help you reload.

http://www.sherryshriner.com/black-pope.htm


To God be the Glory
Joe McKnight

 
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