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March 22 2003 at 9:49 AM
Chris Norwood  (no login)
from IP address 66.199.17.78


Response to Fourth Ave Church of Christ, Franklin, TN

With all due respect to the people who maintain this site, if you are posting or reading messages on this website, I ask you for the scriptural basis for the venting of these things in this venue. Are you not supposed to be sitting down in love and prayer with your brothers and sisters with whom you have a difference? If you are a member at Fourth Avenue, stop believing the lies and misinformation that is being spewed forth from this site. There is no community church ulterior motive. There is no wish for anyone to leave.
How would people who do not even attend Fourth Avenue even know the congregation? If you are a member of the congregation, then how is the airing of differences on this site bringing unsaved people to the strong knowledge and saving grace of God?
There is a stong desire to use tools that we have been given to spread the news of Jesus Christ. I plead with you to stop ego and selfishness and pride from standing in the way of our being able to sit down and talk. This is not the forum. This is not the place. I have very little hope that this message will get through to you, because it will probably be edited or erased. I have signed my name to this posting so you will know who I am. I will not hide and try to be anonymous. I will stand up for Truth. Please get away from this site. Its mission has nothing to do with the spreading of the good news of Jesus Christ. It has everything to do with people sitting in judgement of others.

 
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Kenneth SublettMar 24, 2003, 10:11 AM
  Grace
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Member of Fourth AvenueApr 21, 2003, 9:58 PM
   Grace: not acquired thrugh MUSIC
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Kenneth SublettApr 22, 2003, 3:00 PM
  Godly Men
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Jon MicahOct 16, 2003, 10:18 AM
   Godly Men.
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Kenneth SublettOct 16, 2003, 3:39 PM
 thank you, Chris
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MAFBMar 25, 2003, 9:20 AM
  Thanks but no thanks, Chris
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Kenneth SublettMar 25, 2003, 2:29 PM
   Re: Thanks but no thanks, Chris
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AnonymousMar 25, 2003, 10:22 PM
   Kenneth Sublett
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AnonymousMar 26, 2003, 11:03 AM
   "open dialog"
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AnonymousMar 26, 2003, 11:24 AM
   Kenneth Sublett
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AnonymousMar 26, 2003, 11:44 AM
   Kenneth Sublett
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AnonymousMar 26, 2003, 11:44 AM
    Which Rock
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Kenneth SublettMar 26, 2003, 2:18 PM
  No thanks, Chris
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Kenneth SublettMar 26, 2003, 9:49 AM
   Addiction
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AnonymousMar 26, 2003, 10:00 PM
    Addiction
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Kenneth SublettMar 27, 2003, 9:43 AM
     Re: Addiction
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CBApr 26, 2003, 1:42 PM
  Concerned for 4th
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H WatkinsMay 20, 2003, 9:30 PM
   Re: Concerned for 4th
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Outsider Looking InJul 30, 2003, 7:28 PM
    4th
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AnonymousJul 31, 2003, 12:07 PM
    Autonomy
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PhilAug 1, 2003, 12:23 AM
     Wide and Narrow Way
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David K.Aug 1, 2003, 10:49 AM
      Wide and Narrow
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Kenneth SublettAug 1, 2003, 5:52 PM
      wide narrow????
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Duane BullNov 3, 2003, 11:18 PM
     Re: Autonomy
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AnonymousAug 1, 2003, 12:17 PM
    Ken Young is coming
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gwAug 2, 2003, 7:55 AM
     The Locusts are coming!
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Kenneth SublettAug 2, 2003, 3:27 PM
     Re: Ken Young is coming
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SteveAug 6, 2003, 9:35 AM
      Re: Re: Ken Young is coming
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AnonymousAug 10, 2003, 4:26 PM
       ConcernedMembers Website
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AnonymousAug 22, 2003, 12:19 PM
        Concerned!
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Kenneth SublettAug 22, 2003, 7:43 PM
     fight for what is right
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JudyOct 2, 2007, 6:15 PM
 God bless the fourth ave. church family
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Lance PerryOct 14, 2003, 8:24 PM
  God bless the fouth ave. church family
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Steve BlackOct 15, 2003, 6:02 PM
   Vegas
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anonynousMay 4, 2004, 12:33 PM
    vegas
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Kenneth SublettMay 4, 2004, 7:24 PM
 Thanks for positive perspective
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VanessaMay 31, 2004, 11:00 PM
  I went there today
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CheyenneJun 28, 2004, 1:53 AM
   4th
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Kenneth SublettJun 29, 2004, 4:34 PM
 Question
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N. FlanaganJun 30, 2004, 7:46 AM
  Question
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Kenneth SublettJul 1, 2004, 12:27 PM
   Seek to please GOD not man.
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Cliff KingMay 21, 2006, 4:14 AM
    Guilty Axe Man here!
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Ken SublettMay 21, 2006, 6:30 PM
  Re: Question
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H.RobersonJul 1, 2004, 3:10 PM
 This website is poison
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OlePaulJul 31, 2007, 6:28 PM
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