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August 8 2005 at 3:14 PM
Ken Sublett  (no login)
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Response to Re: Eat, Drink, Clap and Make Mary! It's a MARK.

What I want to know is how many of the OWNERS did you lose before you added the ATTRACTANTS? Other than that I don't car what you guys do or any system of RELIGINISM does: it has no connection to the ekklesia or synagogue or school of the Bible which has NONE of the legalism of singing songs as ENCHANTMENT, the Law of Giving or the Law of Tithing, or WORSHIP as rituals. Jesus DIED to give me REST from the laden burdens of the clergy which means "spiritual anxiety created by religious rituals."

REST means almost totally stop the preaching, stop the singing, stop it stop it stop it.

I don't DO BODY COUNTS because I will bet that not one of yours understands the meaning of DISCIPLESHIP which has NOTHING in common with worship rituals.

I don't HAVE a house in which "god cannot be worshipped" and like Paul, Jesus didn't send me to baptize so that the kiddies can chew gum and eat some of that stuff.

My very expensive MINISTRY has been restructured to cost me about a hundred dollars a month. With that I GO into all the world with sunlight or batteries and do about 250,000 "sermon listens" a month. My favorite count is from people who have removed their children from clappy-clangy noise which destroys their spirit and those being EXORCISED from the LAW OF GIVING. So, MY body count is SUBTRACTIVE rather than ADDITIVE AND ADDICTIVE.

You could do better with some good belly dancers. Again, I don't much care except for those you have betrayed because there is NOTHING Christian about a MUSICAL service. It DOES fulfill the prophecy of Revelation 18.

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        Don't blame me: God beat me to it!
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Ken SublettApr 8, 2006, 4:12 PM
         WOW........Ken you "suspended" me from this site but have graciously allowed me back in!
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