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  • Red Bank

    • Posted May 6, 2003 4:17 PM

      Try to be patient with me and do not hesitate to ask for more information. I am a retired engineer and represent no threat to anyone. I want you to try to grasp some fundamentals of the church as it has self-destructed in some areas. These views match those of the Restoration Movement leaders who saw these as marks as apostasy.

      First, Christ did not say that He was going to build His CHURCH. The word is ekklesia which is the same as the Hebrew synagogue. Church is named after the legendary lady used by John in defining the end-times of the body of Christ. The synagogue is the "school of the Bible." It began in the wilderness as the Qahal or assembly. Blowing instruments and loud rejoicing was outlawed. The later more organized synagogue had no instruments and no "praise service." A praise team is an organic MUSICAL INSTRUMENT.

      The body of Christ gives no one the authority to BURDEN the flock with things which are not necessary and which are known to deliberately sow discord among the brethren.

      Second, the body of Christ has only Jesus Christ as the Head and Teacher. Only by the elders "teaching that which has been taught" can Jesus be the teacher. The elders must be APT to teach better than any I have known or they are not apt. Their authority goes no further than the tasks Jesus and the apostles defined. Therefore, they have no authority to purchase "hirelings" to do what they are unable to do.

      Part of the end-time apostasy is the rise of dominant pastors who USE some of the elders and permit no entreating easy or not. It is the first MARK of apostasy.

      Third, the body of Christ has no professional staff. Jesus fired the doctors of the law and Paul approved of the evangelist who "eats as he goes" and does not see "religion as a means of financial gain" riding on the backs of widows and hard working people. Paul made it a RULE that no claim to rights can be made and still dispense the FREE gospel. Honest evangelists really have no urge to be CEO over "programs."

      Fourth, the church CANNOT be a church and be governed by YOUNGERS. This job has been SOLD from those who manufacture youth ministers. F. LaGard Smith says that the DIVISION will end only when youth ministers are fired.

      http://www.piney.com/ChLSmith.html

      Fifthly, there is NO LAW OF SINGING. Paul's direct command was to TEACH or PREACH to one another with the Inspired Psalms. He said that the Romans were competent to TEACH ONE ANOTHER and defined the task as "glorifying God with one voice" using "that which is written." This means that no one in the congregation has any authority to ENHANCE the rituals knowing that they are OFFENDING many of these little ones. They should get fitted for a millstone.

      Sixth, and most important, THERE IS NO LAW OF GIVING. Paul advised the Corinthians to make up a collection which was a year overdue. He made it clear that THIS IS NOT A COMMANDMENT. Therefore, you can obey the Word of Paul and cut off the power supply to men who have inflitrated your church for the purpose of destroying it and turning it into "a theater for holy entertainment."

      You must advise the elders that you will not PAY for the youth minister because that is where most of the division is coming from. They are fueled from men like Max Walling who is advising the youth ministers that they might have to get out of the church of Christ if they cannot make changes.

      http://www.piney.com/Walling1995.html

      Lipscomb gives aid and comfort to these people and undoubtedly is manufacturing preachers in the image of their unfaithful. The seminar on preaching at Lipscomb used a preacher who has organized a SABBATH assembly with instrumental music. Their WHITE PAPER has been reviewed. It is clear to any reader that they pervert every passage and word of the Bible related to "music." It is a fact that the music word is never used of spiritual worship in the entire Bible. On the contrary, it is always associated with telling God: "We will not listen to your words."

      Copy and cut this link and paste it into your URL spot at the top of your brouser to see who Lipscomb is using as their authority. There are two parts to the first article. As well we will look at the Hebrew and Greek words related to instruments or singers or music to see that they are all more the DEVILS tools than Gods. The same word can be translated as "play the flute, pollute or prostitute."

      http://www.piney.com/Farmers-Branch-Music.html

      DARE any pseudo-preacher, youth minister or elder with or without a Phd to refute anything I have said. They cannot and will not. That is exactly why Paul told the Corinthians in so many words that "fools love to be fools." Don't be a happy fool: you have as much right as anyone to TEACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT. They LIVE, MOVE AND HAVE THEIR BEING knowing that they have hypnotized you into not daring to question "god's announteds." Machiavelli, Hitler and Hegel and Lynn Anderson in 'Navigating the Winds of Change' knew that.

      Ken Sublett
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