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  • Re: What others think about this topic. Let the world know
    • One of the flock
      Posted Aug 3, 2004 10:23 AM

      Though I agree with most of what you are saying, you stated that U.S. Baptist church govt. are dictatorships. Gardendale Baptist Church was a well run democratically run church for 100 years. There have been timees when people did not agree on some matter. But with a merciful spirit of reconcilliation as well as a desire to remain a loving flock: all members were guaranteed a voice during the well run regularly scheduled business meetings. We also had bilaws that were prayerfully written in order to provide stucture in part to the business end of running this dynamic church's activities and finaces. Speaking of finances, the treasurer was a godly man who was gifted at what he did and was always happy to pull up a report AT ANY TIME to show the infow and outflow of funds.
      The problem at our church is now that the pastor has removed all these systems of carefully and prayerfully created checks and balances.NOW,Micah Davidson and Jimmy Dodson and Tom Ringo and John Gilbert can band together with RICK WARREN and create a fellowship in his format of worship, government, and purpose.
      In order to pull this off right before our eyes, there had to be a lot of lies told, secret agendas shared in whispers away from the ears of anyone who might oppose, changes were made( removing Baptist from our sign) and then covered with fictitious stories that the City made us do it! (By the way, who is the Father of Deceit? YIKES!)
      And what became of the the voices of the discerning who began seeing not only this prideful shifting of power into the hands of this Micah Davidson and his band thieves but also, the incorporation of a worship style that would "appeal to the lost"
      (But, hey guys they are LOST. Do you really think we should be taking our cues from the world? We should be peculiar the LOST WORLD. The differences they should see in us, the peace, the joy, the love the hope the patience the understanding, the the kindnesss, the self-control will be evident if God indeed is in us and with us. HE will draw the people to himself. You don't need to contrive this work by your own hands Just let GOD do what He wants to do. ) The big vote happened when Micah Davidson decided that he could not go on much longer doing the work of Rick Warren without having to admit it. He kept saying "We are not trying to like any other church!!" when seemingly he was acting out the now widely circulated Rick Warrens plan for chuch growth. And culminating in ridding the church of any and all who would stand against him. So, that Sunday night, about 200 people were jeered at -leered at as they stood boldly for the God that changed their lives. We tearfully sang "IT Is WELL WITH MY SOUL" The crowd around us laughed and yelled at one deacon (who had been promised by Micah that he would be allowed to speak) SIT DOWN ! and then proceeded to make loud garbled sounds so that neither this Grady Jackson nor the other two elderly preachers who were in front of the pulpit asking Micah to "Stop this behavior and brinng this flock together again" Micah et al. videotaped tis whole horrible display of pride and might verses humble and upright mixed with many confused onlookers. They viewed this tape the next week in order to know who to remove from the membership rolls.
      This is an example not of Baptist churches not having good methods of government. This is an example of the teachings of Rick Warren being used to the hilt regardless of the flock already pursuing the work of the Lord as He had laid it on their hearts. Also it is an example to us all how the devil can creep into your life right into your face if you aren't wary and unapologetically cause great havoc.
      No, the ousted group have not lost our faith. The devil can not touch our souls those are concecrated to GOD through salvation by the blood of his son Jesus Christ. But, satan would like to muss up the bride real good. The issue I raise is why would anyone want to come into a beautiful loving congrgation and sow lies, distrust and pain?
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