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    • Duane Bull
      Posted Sep 20, 2004 12:42 AM

      Sam,
      I am a faithful member of a church of Christ in the dfw area. The one thing I would appriciate from those that write into this forum is that they all use the KJV of the
      Bible. As most of the scriptures you used did not come from a KJV then it makes me confused as to how you can teach the truth about Love yet not use the true word of God.
      I do know that your concluding statement is incorrect:
      "Love is the essence of our faith, and when it comes down to it, all we need as the Church is love. Everthing ese spings out of this. True doctrine, evangelism, worship, teaching, they all flow out of this basic principle modeled to us by Christ".
      Error taught as correct is still error. Our Faith comes from the word of God: Rom. 10:17. We do not gain faith from love. To understand the Love that God has for us we need to read his word. Love is not the center of the kingdom-- obedience is: Eccl.12:13; Josh. 24,I Sam.15:22,
      Acts 5:29. If I don't obey his word love is nothing. Love will not save me from Hell. Only obeying God's word will.
      Love is important as a Christian, yet we cannot not allow love to become the dominant theme in our churches. Do not be blinded by love and lose the emphesis of our mission. Which is 3 fold. 1.Seek and save the lost Luke 19:10, Matt.28:19. 2. Save ourselves I Tim.4:16, 3. Teach the word of God I Tim. 4:16, II Tim.2:15, Matt. 28:19, II Tim.3:16-17. IF you can do these things then the Love that God showed us in sending his Son to die for our sins will not be wasted.
      Remember that God is a God of Love and a God of destruction for those that do not follow his word. Look to the old Testiment for examples.
      God loves us and love is important to all Christians. But we must still obey his word, we must still teach the truth.
      Thank you for your attention. Sorry this is late in the list but I don't have time to read everything listed here. It is always insiteful and helpful. TO those that read this note, hopefully you will all understand one thing if nothing else. Obey is more important than sacrifice II Sam.15:22(KJV).
      Duane
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