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  • Praise to YOU too?

    • Posted May 11, 2005 11:34 AM

      Ken is not a KJVer only. However, it is a fact that the NIV is sadly mistaken in many places. However, the KJV committee would recommend comparing various versions. When people radically introduce the NIV it is most likely that it teaches WHAT THEY already believe.

      So, I post lots about the use of 1 Peter 3:21 to try to prove that instead of Baptism being A REQUEST to God, Max would say that baptism is AFTER we have received A holy spirit and is OUR PLEDGE to do our part of the bargain to be GOOD GUYS. When Max and others PLEDGE the meaning is that THEY HAVE SOMETHING to put in PAWN.

      In the other 58 times the NIV translates the word to be ASKING rather than TELLING God that you GOT that salvation by just looking up and saying: "Wow!."

      The NIV uses the word MUSIC which no scholar would add to the SPEAKING passages which are not related to SINGING as in MUSIC.

      I use the KJV otherwise I would be TRYING to disturb people as part of the postmodern need to induce SCHIZOPHRENIA before they can change them into THEIR OWN IMAGE. This is no accident: they plan to drive the old people up the wall and out of THEIR OWN BUILDINGS. They BOAST about it. Most people will accept the KJV as having been TESTED wherease the AGENTS OF CHANGE will preach from ANY trash which fits THEIR twisted minds. It is never POSSIBLE to use the NIV as authority without knowing that you are SOWING DISCORD among a part of the congregation. In postmodernism, SOWING DISCORD is now a tool of "saving more souls."

      Secondly, I use the KJV because it is not subject to infringment.

      Thirdly, the KJV is more literal than most and where it uses archaic words I trust that ANY disciple will be literate enough to grasp older words which are still in the dictionaries. If a word needs explaining then the CONTEXT rules.

      Fourthly, it has had the BLACKSMITHS (Cabiri) beat on it for many years and the typos have been hammered out without altering its language or trustworthyness.

      Sometimes I see an error in the NIV or other version, check on the KJV and see that indeed the KJV had the same meaning but the problem was with ME.

      As long as the MODERN words are not just taking liberties but fit the meaning of the context and leave the OLD meanings alone, if I have problems at this time I will grow and try to understand the words in terms of the CULTURE in which it was written rather than as Rubel and John do, make the Bible fit OUR CULTURE. If it turns out that the preacer--as usual--is just being faddish to put the focus on HIM then I have lost contact completely with the original.

      Ed, do you have your tongue in checque?

      Ken
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