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  • Re: To the Advil man (or woman)
    • Anonymous
      Posted May 17, 2005 4:12 PM

      Your Holy Scripture has become the object of your faith, your God. This was not how it was in the pre-modern times. You act as tho the scripture is the starting point of your faith and tradition, it is actually the product of your faith. It's authority was gained only after the tradition started, Christianity existed long before they had the Holy Scriptures. Not to mention that the original text is no longer and that each time the bible was copied its content was changed as well as added to. Therefore how can anyone say for certain they know Gods will.
      How can anyone claim that they possess a knowledge of absolute truth. Are you a divinely ordained guardian of the truth? Obviously this conviction gives you a feeling of confidence and inner power over anyone who differs in their believes. "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him." (Acts 10:34-35) "My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become evil thinking judges?" (James 2:1-4)
      How can you say that you are absolutely sure you know the mind and will of God. It is obvious you see tolerance as a form of moral weekness however intolerance leads to fanaticism. (The fanatic was a person who believed himself to be wholly inspired by divine power. Fanatics are impervious to reasoning and will stop at nothing to achieve their ends, passionately believing them to be not their own ends but God’s.)
      Tolerance does not mean agreement or even acceptance. I can be tolerant with out giving up on my own believes. I can still be respectful and even try to teach without being intolerant .
      What is the difference in your doctrine on certain issues and those of superstitions. God is much bigger then that. You are not consistant in your biblical literalist believes, you only do so when it suits your agenda. You are literal when it comes to certain issues like the second coming of Christ, the resurrection and the existence of eternal punishment. But when Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God, why do you not sell all that you have and give to the poor as Jesus told the rich young ruler who wanted to follow him?

      It is obvious that you concentrate on passages in the bible that are of interest to you,and ignore that which you do not want to see. When a person selects just what one wishes and ignores the rest, you cease to be Bible believing Christian. It becomes a tool of power claiming divine authority to support your own prejudices.

      The best anyone can do is to seek the truth, study and be in prayer with God. The day I know the truth, I will not be able to share it with my earthly people. Anyone who claims they know the only truth will never be opened to really learning the truth. It is amazing to me how there are those that claim they know the truth about Gods will yet are so ignorant to truths and reality before their very eyes.
      Open your hearts, your ears and your eyes. God is so much more then anyone of us can ever even imagine. He is bigger then these petty arguments. Take your eyes off of the legalism brought about by man and turn your eyes to God. And if you think that their is nothing in the Bible that is not of God and that is all God is, wow what a shame.

      We need to remember that feelings are not reality and that some times the things we fear the most we create.

      Kimberly
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