I know that you are NIV positive (NIV = New Ignorance Version). You need to check in with the good Doctor above before it is too late. You are in danger of acquiring full blown AIDS (Acquired Ignorance Disease Syndrome).
Please get some help; and this time seek help from above, not below.
Why do you insist on defending one of Satan’s favorite books.
Do you think that Jesus would defend The NIV?
The NIV calls Jesus and Lucifer by the same name! This was not done by mistake. It was done on purpose by the people who wanted to disrespect the Lord.
Does that fact even make a difference to you?
Hello! Wake up!
Which side are you on, God’s side or Satan’s?
If you want to be on God’s side, then start standing up for God and his Word.
Re: B.
1 Peter 4:1 - Flesh/body - Do you find such a different meaning in these two that is has caused your walk with God to suffer? Body is simply a more modern term for flesh.
You know, it is really a shame that I have to explain the difference between the two words body and flesh. It just seems so elementary. I mean, do you remember when you were about 3 or 4 years old and you mommy taught you how to recognize the parts of your body. It might have went a little something like this –
Ok little B., today we are going to learn the parts of your body. This is your eye, this is your mouth, these are your ears, these are your teeth, these are your little feet, and these are your little bitty legs. These are all PARTS of your BODY. She could have went on to say that your body is made up of FLESH, BONES, HAIR, BLOOD, NAILS, AND WATER, AND CERTAIN OTHER THINGS. Little B., If you are confused than let me know and mommy will try to explain in simpler terms. Ok?
I should not have to explain the different between body and flesh to you.
But if you still think that these two words have the same meaning then do not stop there. Why don’t you change the word FLESH into the word BODY where ever you find the word FLESH in the Bible? For example, replace the word BODY for FLESH in the following verses:
1Co:12:12: For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 1Co:12:13: For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Co:12:14: For the body is not one member, but many. 1Co:12:15: If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 1Co:12:16: And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 1Co:12:17: If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 1Co:12:18: But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body., as it hath pleased him. 1Co:12:19: And if they were all one member, where were the body? 1Co:12:20: But now are they many members, yet but one body. 1Co:12:21: And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 1Co:12:22: Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 1Co:12:23: And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 1Co:12:24: For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: 1Co:12:25: That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 1Co:12:26: And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 1Co:12:27: Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
Now substitute the word flesh in place of the word body in the following verses. (Since you are under the impression that the word Body is simply a more modern term for flesh then it should make no difference here)
Eph:5:30: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Col:1:24: Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
I speak English.
I am sure that God has provided inspired translations in many different languages. How else can God hold us responsible for living by every Word of God if he did not provide us with his inspired Word in a language that we could read and understand? Do you think that God expects every one to learn the ancient Greek and Hebrew languages? Do you think that God expects us to read and speak them as if they were our native tongue? Do you think that everyone has access to the original Hebrew and Greek scriptures?
Oh ye of little faith! But I am not surprised that you are lacking faith in God because you choose to use Satan’s substitutes. When you don’t have God’s true Word, your faith in God’s abilities will suffer. Without faith in God, it is impossible to please him.
Ro:10:17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Heb:11:6: But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
It does not matter what language the Word of God is translated into. There are bibles translated in many, many languages. God can inspire his Word in any language that he sees fit, including English.
Yes, believe it or not, God is that great!
I believe that when someone is sincerely seeking the truth, they will find it; and when they find it, they will know it, no matter what language form it is in. The truth is the truth and a lie is a lie.
Joh:8:32: And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Corruption is corruption, even if you think it is only a little corruption. It messes up the whole Book.
1Co:5:6: Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Re:22:18: For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
When we hear God’s Word, some of us will know it, but unfortunately, some of us won’t.
Joh:10:27: My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
By the way, don’t worry about Ed, he will find the truth about the King James translation if he is sincerely seeking it.
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...........................THE BOOK
What Happened At the Madison Church of Christ?
There are thousands of churches being taken over across America.
This book is only about one of those churches. It's about the Madison
Church Of Christ. By studying the methods used here along with the resource
references you might be able to inoculate your church. At the very least
you will recognize the signs early on.
Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't
know what happened.
Some never will know! This book is for them as well.
Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was
one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.
It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of
it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word
of Jesus Christ.
At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority
of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly
realm.
They used secrecy, covert planning, and outside sources to scheme and
to change the format and direction of the Madison Church of Christ.
The Elders knew that the membership would never approve such a plan.
Using the tools of the "Community Church Movement"(consultants, books,
seminars, meetings,planters,seeders) they slowly started initiating change
so it was never noticed by the members until it was too late.....
At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to
be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched
through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the
"Community Church Movement"
Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready,
or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the
plans very nature, it had to be secret.
The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was
never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last
15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.
The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the
elders went along unwittingly.
This edition starts shortly after some of the members begin to smell
something strange in January 2001. Later editions may go back and fill
in some of the timeline.
To even start to understand whats happening here, you must read the
background materials in the first of the book.
This is only the first edition, and not the end. New editions will be
printed as needed. To keep abreast of current changes, please visit our
web site; http://www.concernedmembers.com/madison
Here is the list of players;
5 Godly Elders
10 Not so Godly Elders
120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten
commandments)
Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)