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  • Consistency is a jewel
    • Chris
      Posted Jul 15, 2006 1:56 PM

      David,

      I appreciate your taking the time to respond to my post, however, I do have a few things to say about yours.

      First, in my post I openly admitted that I needed to pray because I allowed my frustrations to be vented in my message. But, I appreciate your deducing that because I was frustrated, and allowed it to be shown, that it means I am not a truth seeker and thereby not interested in truth. One plus one surely equals eight.

      Second, I do have one question for you.. You stated, "If you had been a seeker of the truth, you would realize that the NIV is actually owned and copyrighted by someone other than God." Last time I check, David, God didn't have a copyright on the KJV either. And, have you double checked to make sure the KJV text is totally identical and has no additions or subtraction from the original greek?? You stated, "You have to change something at least 15% to claim a new copyright." That sure sounds like the "do not add to or take away from" verse that I read in my KJV. Perhaps God should have said, "Do not add to or take away more than 15%." Also, just in case you didn't read the entirety of my previous post, I stated that I use the KJV.

      Third, you conclude that I haven't studied the issue just because I took offense to the way people avoided the questions asked by "B" in his original post -- which you have chosen to totally avoid from my post.. I will be glad to answer yours, will you answer mine??

      Fourth, you stated that I need to prove myself a truth seeker.. My question is, will I ever be considered a truth seeker by you if any of my conclusions are different from yours??? If not, then perhaps I need to be a seeker of David's truth.

      For everyone reading this, I didn't claim to be perfect, in fact, I informed you of my need for prayer. BUt, I am not ashamed to admit when I am wrong -- will anyone else?? Probably not, because it appears (my opinion, not an attack)that on this website "truth seeking" is defined by agreeing with the moderators..

      Someone please just address the simple questions I asked near the end of my first post.

      Again, I await with open eyes the responses to come.

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