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  • Worship means GIVE HEED TO THE WORD of God!

    • Posted Jan 26, 2007 3:46 PM

        I missed the NT passage where God instructs how to conduct a worship service, actually I can't even find the passage that instructs corporate worship. I can find assembling in order to edify and exhort other believers, but nothing about preaching Gospel to non-believers in those assemblies. I can find instruction on taking up collections for needy believers. I can find instructions on qualifications of elders, deaacons, and widows. But I cannot find this instruction that several here have referred to where God tells us how to worship him.
      I am so sorry you missed that: no one else in early EKKLESIA missed that for hundreds of years: no singing until about the year 360-373 to add NON Scriptural songs written by the person who composed his own SCRIPTURE. You MISSED that because Jesus never DEFINED a worship service. Paul's UNIQUE worship concept means to GIVE HEED to the Word (Spirit) of Christ. You worship what or whomever you PAY ATTENTION TO. If you are paying attention to the effeminate praise singers then you are worshiping the PRAISE LEADERS. If you sing Twila Paris then you are worshiping Twila Paris. Physical and mental limitations: you cannot GIVE HEED to the sister singers and to the Word of God at the same time. For heaven's sake they INTEND that you worship them: that is the meaning of the ZOE MOVEMENT.

      The Jews never missed that the assembly as Qahal which Stephen defined as "the church in the wilderness" was not to blow loud instruments and "make a joyful noise before the Lord" because this PRAISE was the warrior's panic song. The instructions for the EKKLESIA was to hold a holy convocation to REST, READ and or REHEARSE the Word which would be in the memory of ANY copmpetent tribal elder. Boys began synagogue mandatory school at about age 5-7 at the time of Jesus and NO ONE was such a slow learner that he did not understand the UNCHANGED role of the SYNAGOGUE or EKKLESIA which was a SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE. Paul's ONLY worship word speaks of GIVING HEED to the Word of God by "public reading, exorting that read portion and explainig universal doctrine in THAT passage." That never changes since the Church in the Wilderness. There are numerous times when Paul assembled (synagogued) out in the mission fields and you NEVER hear Paul having a song service. I think that the charismatic singing and charismatic preaching is EXACTLY that which prevented you from learning that in card class (before women began to RULE OVER).

      No one in the history of the world disobeyed that DIRECT COMMAND until in a liberal German synagogue in the year 1815. The Rabbi sowed discord and the congregation went to law. What makes the Rabbi REDEEMABLE is that he had the UNcommon decency to leave and start another synagogue.

      The Temple was a Gentile-like shrine for the king, clergy and military. The synagogue or ekklesia or CHURCH quarantined the people from traveling on the REST days (not Saturday) and prevented SENDING OUT MINISTERS: why not! They were to READ the word as it had been written and to dialog it. That NEVER changed and the only addition was the Lord's Supper in Christ's Ekklesia or Synagogue which was ALSO to "preach the Death of Christ."

      Jesus endorsed the synagogue by going in and standing up to READ the word and having the uncommon decency to SIT DOWN and "rehearse"or dialog: Paul never preached until Midnight: he DIALOGED or COMMUNED about the Word. There is not a jot or tittle that Paul or the other evangelists SANG in the ASSEMBLY or GATHERING which is defined with the word SYNAGOGUE and the synagogue "had no praise service" based on the DIRECT COMMAND well understood from Numbers 7 and minimal common sense and decency: when Jesus Christ meets as out ONLY teacher when the elders "teach that which has been taught" why would anyone want to listen to gender-confused singers whine or screech out their OWN silly, erotic praise ditties?

      Paul EXCLUDES private practices in Romans 14 and then defines the synagogue in Romans 15. They were to speak that which was written or Scripture with ONE MIND and ONE MOUTH. This would EDIFY or EDUCATE which is the purpose for the assembly, glorify God who wrote the songs as sermons as "the Spirit of Christ." Paul commanded the WORD of Christ in Colossians 3 to TEACH and ADMONISH and in Ephesians 5 called that word the SPIRIT. That is exactly what those "uninformed" people graped from reading simple words. For instance, the word SPEAK in these assemblies is the OPPOSITE of either poetry or MUSIC. That is why Paul put the singing AND melody (or grace) in the PLACE of the human heart or SPIRIT which is the only Place God pays any attention to us: He DOES NOT judge according to SIGHT or SOUND (Isa 11 defining the 7 SPIRITS of God).

      Paul said that we should ASSemble ourselves and read and learn and honor Christ. When WE DISSemble ourselves the "assembly" goes the same place a flame goes when we puff it out. In the civil ekkleisa they elected a "contact elder" for the year. When Paul addressed a letter to Corinth it did not go to an address but to the man known to be the "contact man" who could then call the assembly to LISTEN AND LEARN ONLY.
        BTW, yes the assembly is for the benefit of those present, certainly Heb 10:24,25 means what it says and says what it means. Also check out 1 Cor 14, it is about "us". I know that is shocking, but all the giving was not "giving back a small portion to God" if you actually read and hear scripture, it is about giving to others and imitating God in this love.
      That's true so you would advise NOT giving to the preacher who is RARELY knowledgeable beyond the "dry onion skin" level to fill a role not invented for another hundred years in the sense of "sermonizing" the Word. If he is an able-bodied male then shame and all of Bible history before preachers (priests) became operatives of the civil state should force him into the Thessalonian dilemna: "If he will not work neither shall he eat." Paul was speaking of the MANY riding the backs of the new churches.

      Paul outlawed songs or sermons which came out of their OWN SPIRIT and compared their own minor dialects (not gibberish) to lifeless instruments which he parses to WITCHCRAFT, WARFARE or the THEATER. His regulation of 'revelatory' prophesying DID NOT mean that anyone in Corinth had the smalles gift.
        I know the traditions that are taught as doctrines of God, and I know the inferences and conclusions that have been traditionally made, but truly I cannot find this instruction to which cofc tries to use the Jedi hand wave and make the mind go blank. It just isn't there.
      The TRADITIONALISM which the LIBERALS assuredly will NOT abandon while they use the RACA words on non-instrumentalists all SURFACED destructively in my lifetime:

      The Law of Preaching: denied by the evangelists who lost their support to "Located Missionaries" in about 1930

      The Law of Singing which didn't go legal for almost four centuries and THEN no one hallucinated chanting the Psalms and playing the organ at the same time. Catholics never did that until after 1911 when they began to Protentasize. The gender-bleed songs just pooped out in the last decade or so.

      The Law of Giving which Paul DISPUTES and identifies any coercion EVEN for the DESTITUTE with extortion which he lumps with adultery.


      THESE ARE THE TRADITIONALIZING WHICH THEY WILL NEVER ARGUE AGAINST: wonder why?

      Nextly, what the SECTARIAN and LEGALISTIC "new style musicians" lie about is that the NON-use of MACHINES (for doing hard work) is JUST based on our ignorant, Southern Rednecked traditionalism. None of those actively trying to infiltrate and divert peaceable churches of Christ by using Rubel Shelly, Max Lucado or Rick Atckly who are MUSICAL to pretend to represent the non-instrumental churches of Christ. How can anyone honest do that? Furthermore all of their books and sermons DELIBERATELY lie about every musical passage related to religion. The LUST to lick up the references to PSALLO which speaks of PLUCKING as authority for DELIBERATELY SWIPING CHURCH HOUSES OF WIDOWS and the NEVER tell you that ALL of these males PLUCKING a harp as their authority is SEDUCING young boys for pederasty: there IS NO music in religion testimony which DOES NOT identify prostitutes: if males are involved in singing and playing we are told that they are DRUNKS or PERVERTS or maybe JUST FOR FUN. Maybe like dressing up in your sister's clothes which they also did.

      Well, there, you have people who are terminal and without redemption because Isaiah says that hell was made to drive people into with Wind, String and Percussion instruments and John in Revelation adds LIARS and DOGS (Singers in Paul's imagery or CYNICS) and Sorcerers. John identifies the Mother of Harlots (Rev 17) and her singers, musicians and ALL teknokrats as SORCERERS who HAD deceived the whole world. so, we have NUMEROUS passages which prove that Topheth (Hell or solomon's music grove) was prepared for Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute and all She /He / It could seduce with music.

      Rick Atchley representing all of the musical DISCORDERS distorted every single musical term in the Bible and recorded history. When he knows that elders have to resign, members flee and stealing the church house of widows is the result. This CANNOT be the work of sincere people and I think that Revelation 18 is coming true before our watching eyes and listening ears and the GOATS (a capella singers) CANNOT help doing what they are doing. All misleaders use the same LIES to do something which HE lusts to add and you need to ASK WHY?

      They ALL ignore all recorded history which associates MUSICAL WORSHIP with Satan, warriors, prostitutes and Sodomites and claim that those who DO NOT fit one of those categories are the EVIL LEGALISTS. Satan IS called the FALSE ACCUSER.

      SO the false teachers USE AND ABUSE the only LEGALISTIC TRADITIONALISM for their own PROFIT and ADD those practices universally and 100% of the time condemned by God from Genesis to Revelation.

      Music used in a RELIGIOUS SENSE has more coverage in the Bible and secular literature than any subject I am aware: the fella you PAY to lie to you doesn't have a clue because CORRUPTING THE WORD means "selling learning at retail" and he has fallen and will never recover: why should he?
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