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  • Deliberate soowing of discord.
    • Ken Sublett (no login)
      Posted May 5, 2008 9:19 PM

      It is a fact that when they begin asking about whether we should add instruments knowing that it will deliberately sow discord and drive away a large fraction of the OWNERS, it is not moral, ethical or Godly. No one asks such a question without intending to do it at whatever the cost.

      Most of the congregations set out on a deliberate Hegelian program as "Navigating the winds of change" or a living visual aid of how "to boil a frog" and keep it singing and clapping. It was always planned that it would take at least 10 years to soften up the group by deliberately using instruments with the children, the youth groups and then adding a "musical worship team" which is an even match between blasphemy and ignorance. What's to care if you INTEND to as they would say at Madison and elsewhere "to turn the church into a theater for holy entertainment." These are evil people seemingly working "lying wonders" and they will have to force out lots of the elders before they and be "100% in agreement." It is all a viper bite by the preacher who has demoted the elders into being his "shepherds."

      These people have copied the steps out of Mein Kampf and even appeal to Machiavelli about why it takes so long and you must never give up to "steal a nation and become its Prince" or we might say Princess. I assure you that they are all reading off the script handed to them by the NACC and they have been groomed for the purpose: it is not a high compliment that these men are so easily seduced. I have reviewed the important books and lectures by these men and they all deliberately lie about every mention of an instrument in the Bible.

      Furthermore, all of their PROOF TEXTS about PSALLO point to older males plucking the harp to seduce a "youth minister" who had been degendered (a cappella, a castrato).

      The fatal flaw is that they do not recognize the TWO THREADS running through the Old Testament: the Monarchy which they use as authority was rank Gentile worship because Stephen and others make it clear that "God turned them over to worship the starry host because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. Then God gave them kings in His anger and took them away in His anger as any Samuel reader could never miss.

      At the same time, the SABBATH (rest) day was set aside as the Qahal, Synagogue or church in the wilderness. This defined the "school of the Bible" and EXCLUDED vocal and instrumental rejoicing which was reserved to signal movements or an attack of the enemy.

      I will post some review of the false teachings about Ephesians 5 next. Stan is trying to cook your goose.
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