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  • Directing elders and Shepherding elders
    • Anonymous (no login)
      Posted May 7, 2008 12:20 AM

      Mr. Sublett,

      I appreciate your knowledge of the bible and the spiritual matters that are affecting the Church. I would ask if you have any information about "church elders" and the role they play in the church, please direct or post it at this site.

      If you have a chance, please go to the First Colony Church of Christ Web page and look at the elders page. The elders page will be found by selecting leadership and then selecting elders. There will be found the elders listed with their pictures. Next to the elders name there will be an asterisk, notice that the asterisk is not footnoted. I happen to know that the asterisk denote the directing elders and the rest are shepherding elders. Ronnie Norman is head of the eldership. Is this a pattern at the other corporate churchs or is this a characteristic of some other church denomination? I am curious as to why the eldership structure has been set this way. To me this structure would make politics part of the eldership, in that a discontented Shepherding elder would want to move to a loftier position as directing elder. I have asked an elder about this and I understood him to say, that it was a better way to run the church.

      By the way will on that front page will be the members survey on the service. It ask members opinion about a Instumental Music service.

      Thank you,

      Robert
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