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  • No DOLE, no motive to LIE!

    • Posted May 8, 2008 11:03 PM

      Here is why you NEED all of those BRAND NEW SHEPHERDS (probably not elders). Max Lucado hired a Discipling Minister. So, you already have the ticks fangs sunk deeply and lots of the resources have been already DIVERTED. They can still be litigated for stealing from you. The secret Guitar thing has not been accidental and I suggest you seek out a "Church in Exile" which has been planning how to do the CULT takeover. Lynn Anderson gives you reason for NEVER telling any of these new SHEPHERDS the time of day and you need to spread the word. They will love to get the dope on you and all such accountability groups insist that your secrets be tabulated and turned in to headquarters. Thereafter, if you dare even question them they will hurt you. Anyone willing to lie, cheat and steal your property, spiritual happiness, church family and literaly family connections. Rick Atchley let it be known that "you may have to choose between your family and instrumental music." The Stepford wives will also be ready to work on any wife whose husband begins to stand in their way.

      Lynn Anderson: Accountability Group (no more than 3) What are some good questions to ask each time 2 or 3 of us men meet to hold each other accountable. What are the do's and don'ts of such a commitment...size limits...suggestions for such a commitment. If women want to do this, what accountability questions would be asked in this case? Your ideas and experiences and suggested resources please. We are ministers wanting to lead holy lives before our community in the hope that we may have opportunities to minister and teach.

      Accountability Group (no more than 3) Maybe something I say about this can be of help.
      I think we all know that accountability is an essential part of Christianity in that we are to help each other grow and become sharpened as iron sharpens iron.

      Accountability questions need to be positive focused, direct, and geared toward motivating people to grow.

      This type of accountability can be hard but it is where people really grow. Especially us ministers have a hard time admitting our faults for fear of discovery and losing our jobs and/or reputations. The end result is that many of us live double lives with secret sin being our second god that we worship when no one else is looking.

      Obviously in some cases this deeper type of accountability is only appropriate within all male or all female groups.

      Accountability groups only work when there is trust and openness. This may take a while to develop.


      Give it time and START SLOW until you feel that your relationship can progress into these more INTIMATE areas.

      Here's the list from Steve Farrar's "Point Man" (Promise Keepers)

      1. Have you been with a woman this week in such a way that was inappropriate or could have looked to others that you were using poor judgment?

      2. Have you been completely above reproach in all your financial dealings this week?

      3. Have you exposed yourself to any explicit material this week?

      4. Have you spent daily time in prayer and in the Scriptures this week?

      5. Have you fulfilled the mandate of your calling this week?

      6. Have you taken time off to be with your family this week?

      7. Have you just lied to me?

      Actually, Hope Network Ministries exists to coach, mentor and equip spiritual leaders. For that reason we do not use our web site to process doctrinal issues,

      denominational peculiarities or personalities.

      Rather we use this forum to encourage christian leaders, share ministry resources, coach and respond to questions regarding strategies, systems, skills etc. - things of this nature.


      For most stable people this sounds so far out that you may be in DENIAL because your normal mind cannot grasp the depth of people able to work LYING WONDERS.
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