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  • Re: First Colony Church of Christ annouces Instramental music for 3rd service

    • Posted May 22, 2008 5:40 PM

      There is no attempt at good faith debate: the poster claims that they are godly men led by the Holy Spirit. I deny that because the NAME of the Holy Spirit is "Jesus Christ the righteous." He cast out the musical minstrels "like dung" or like an actor is EXPLODED from the stage. He marked the MEN of that age as CHILDREN piping hoping to get others to sing and dance. He consigned them to the MARKETPLACE where Paul consigned the "diversities" of the three sects in Rome. It was prophesied and undoubtedly fulfilled that Jesus was musically mocked right up to the cross. Godly men simply do not let themselves be led into the deliberate sowing of discord and using what I AM CERTAIN is lying about every mention of an instrument and DRAGGING the flock back under the wolves of the cursed sacrificial system.

      I see that the sermons have been BLOCKED but I can supply the rebuttal without hearing a word Ronnie intends to say. Because he has launched out on an evil trajectory, past events show that he will continue and make allowances for the deliberate discord in order to get his way. As in other events which I am aware of there is an ELDERESS at the helm.

      I know the play book for all of the DIVERSIONS to musical instruments. We began by supplying some Biblical background and suggesting that Ronnie has never read the context of the examples he is going to use. These are all from the NACC operatives and there is nothing new since O.E.Payne's list of proof for the word PSALLO.

      Because he did not LAY OUT the Rick Atchley material nor continue the series about, it seems that Ronnie needed to defend his credentials. Or maybe someone set him straight that neither he nor the elders have the authority to drive out the owners who have INVESTED in what they thought was a Church of Christ.

      I don't see why anyone needs to consider it not "tender" enough to point out that Matthew utterly repudiates exactly what Ronnie is trying to do. If consistent with the other events the elders have been replaced by SHEPHERDS ready to lay on the same musical burden Jesus died to remove.

      I felt compelled to supply some clear definitions of words in Matthew 7 and point out that Jesus was pointing to the Scribes and Pharisees. Because only those opposing him are charged with PASSING JUDGMENT I "feel" that there will--as usual--follow a Hegelian effort to silence sincere opposition by defining it as passing judgment. I am guessing but that is the usual PATTERNISM and part of navigating the winds of change: another slap at perverse performances in Ephesians 4 which LIMITES the role of the elder as the SOLE Pastor-Teacher of the flock: they are not to entertain the goats.

      The "genre" concept should be explained to prove that there is no type of literature, in or our of chronological order which does not connect the musical instrument in a religious sense to Satan, making war, animal slaughter exorcism (which God DID NOT command), prostitutes or Sodomites. Even at bear bones the Bible being NOT METRICAL is one of those absolutes to MARK the "destruction of patriarchal religion by small acts of treachery."

      Explaining Niceta Markus notes:

      Or lyric poetry, which requires not a reader, but a chorus and a harp-accompaniment? They will respond that in these instances recitation has been established by custom.

      In fact, behind the criticisms of the epic recital often lie issues about the performance of gender and social status.

      In that regard, epic's position is parallel to that of rhetoric. Beginning with Aristotle's Rhetorica (1404a), critics of rhetorical performance have ascribed to lively delivery the same effect as that of acting. There is a persistent association between theatrics, bad rhetoric and effeminacy.


      That is why Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees hypocrites by pointing to rhetoricians, singers and instrument players.

      His testimony is important as it formulates general expectations about epic performance while at the same time shows that epic can always slide into an effeminate mode of presentation.

      Plato identified drama and music as demanding an effeminate style and the danger existed of "gender bleed" so that people BECAME what they performed. Aldus Huxley quoted by Lynn Anderson calls it "spiritual masturbation" and the Vineyard (aka wineskins) identifies it as seeking a sexual-like climax with the spirit. THAT is why masses flee.

      On the other hand, God is a FATHER and not a mother and His WORD is a Son and not a daughter: you do not make music to a MALE god.

      Epic's social image as a genre that glorifies male heroism has to be consistent with its mode of performance.

      None of the Bible is metrical and cannot be sung tunefully even if your life depended on it. However, most people deliberately violate the direct command to use "that which is written with one MIND and one MOUTH."

      For Dionysius Thrax, the voice pitched to perform elegy or lyric is inappropriate because of the incongruity it creates between the epic content and its performance.

      "We shut ourselves up and write something grand--sometimes in verse, sometimes in prose--something that will take a vast amount of breath to pant out. This stuff you will some day read aloud to the public, combed, with a new toga, all in white, even with a birthday sardonyx gem on your finger; you shall read from a high chair having first lubricated your throat with a delicate wash, with an effeminate leer in your eye.


      The Plague stopping animal slaughter by Hezekiah is what Rick Atchley etal use to say that GOD COMMANDS INSTRUMENTAL PRAISE and WE SHOULD NOT BE DISOBEDIENT. This is the latest ploy of the NACC to label those who will not AFFIRM that they are CORRECT as ANTI-instrumental. The use of this new antiism is all of the authority you need to TAKE THEM DOWN by foul or fair. I can think of nothing more violent than a group of men closeting themselves and deciding to open the gate to the wolves.

      This PROOF proves with ALL of the "proof texts" that it was David who commanded the INSTRUMENTAL part always under the king and COMMANDERS OF THE ARMY.




      Payne insists that the Hebrew of 1 Chronicles 25:1 unambiguously identifies these leaders as military commanders, an interpretation favoured by several Bible translations. (Payne, p 423-4; NASB, NIV, NKJV, NRSV, Jerusalem Bible) If military commanders had a particular interest in the appointment of musicians, it suggests a strong link between music and warfare.

      No Bible reader could reach any other conclusion and that proves that the shepherds are making war on the flock. If they THINK that the Holy Spirit is giving them DIRECT GUIDANCE then they need to back off and understand that the "spirit" is NOT a holy spirit.
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