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    • Ray
      Posted Jun 5, 2008 7:27 AM

      Donnie, you have madequite a few erroneous assumptions about First Colony. Is it the Christ-like thing to make assumptions about what you have not asked? The answer is no, it is not the Christ-like thing to do. From the beginning of First Colony, it has been the goal to have approximately 1 elder per 100 members. Graned, there is not specific Biblial statement for this, it is not without Biblical example, e.g. the 100 sheep, the centurion.

      Second, you erroneously stated, "Why not simply teach what the New Testament plainly teaches that there is no forgiveness of sins in Christ’s blood without FIRST being “BURIED WITH CHRIST in baptism and RESURRECTED (RISEN) WITH HIM” to begin newness of life? Rather than give the impression as the Baptists believe and teach that baptism is a form of obedience AFTER one has already been forgiven of sins and become a Christian? [While I realize that longtime members of FCCC know the truth better than what the website suggests, nonetheless, it is deceptive on the part of the leadership to proclaim such a message of salvation.] If I am wrong by making that assumption, then the leaders need to make the message plain and scriptural."

      The message on the website on baptism is very clear and goes well beyond your error.

      The FCCC website also states on baptism, "baptism is clearly commanded as part of the process of accepting Christ as Lord and Savior. '...God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ. When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, ‘Brothers, what shall we do?’ Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.' Acts 2:36-38"

      The same explanation of baptism also states, "When one submits to be baptized as an expression of faith and out of love for God, God fully
      and completely forgives that individual’s sins and adds that person to His church. The change in relationship with God does not come because we merit or deserve it. It is God’s power, the same power that raised Jesus from the dead, that works the salvation of man. God only requires that we submit in trusting obedience. 'For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith . and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast.' Ephesians 2:8-9"

      First Colony's teachings of baptism and its relation to faith, forgiveness of sins, becoming one with Christ is entirely consistent with both the scriptures and the Churches of Christ.

      Nothing has been hidden or disguised, as you accuse. The leaders at First Colony and the website HAVE made the message plain and scriptural.

      That is the problem with this slanderous forum - it makes accusations without seeking the whole truth, or getting to know at all those who are being accused.
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