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Ken Sublett
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Re: Jesus EXPOUNDED the Prophecies: Peter outlaws further expounding

May 7 2014, 4:28 PM 

These notes connect to the Bacchae or "new wineskin god" by Euripides.

There is hardly a single topic in the Bible which does not have a pagan connection.

You have to conclude that all of the Bible is lifted from existing cosmology and theology in which case God and His Son are evil and destructive.

Or, if you read beyond "gitting up a sermon" which will fetch a good price, you can easily see that Scripture INVERTS or RECTIFIES the common superstitions and religious practices used to frighten and fleece simple but good normal people.

Again, if you follow the direct command, approved by Jesus example and logically inferred if you can define DISCIPLE and SPEAK to "PREACH the Word by READING the Word for COMFORT and DOCTRINE".

You are in deep bull when those Paul in Ephesians 4 defined as LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE want to sell their own sermons, songs or instrumental talent. They are PURPOSE DRIVEN says Jesus because they are OF the World and not OF Faith or OF truth.

Those who GLADLY RECEIVED the Word about Jesus were baptized and their spirits were translated into a "heavenly kingdom." It is not probable that they will NOT flee Babylon and are therefore safe. Those feeding on what Barnes called "the Lust of the Ears and Eyes" who are OF the World will have found their agents of the Kosmos.

With the clear understanding that those Jesus MARKED with SORCERERS: speakers, singers, instrument players, craftsmen, in Revelation will nor and probably CANNOT alter their course. The Book of Enoch and Job 21 and many other texts PROVE that the fall into pagan musical idolatry is the MARK of being "turned over to worship the starry host" (Exodus 32; Acts 7) and not the CAUSE.

Here is what any APT and mentally alert person reading the Biblical Text would grasp although the MASSSES will not respect that Jesus HAS EXPOUNDED everything in the ancient writings which apply to Him:

Nietzsche, in his Birth of Tragedy, traced the Dionysiac orgies back to the "influences of the narcotic potion of which all primitive men and peoples speak in hymns" or to the emotions which awaken with "the powerful imminence of spring which permeates all of nature with its joy. As the emotions are intensified, the subjective element disappears completely into self-forgetfulness."

But wine is also a psychotropic which reveals to "the most headstrong the greatness of the tender-eyed, dancing, and exultant god who is at the same time the most powerful conqueror and the hero with the greatest triumphs. Dionysus alone has the power, with wine's magic, to bend the will of the implacable" (Otto).

He who begets something which is alive must dive down into the primeval depths in which the forces of life dwell. And when he rises to the surface, there is a gleam of madness.

In its most penetrating depth, the myth of Dionysus is the myth of the raging disintegration of the mystical altered state. It is in this sense and not in the sense of the blood of the redeemer that the living Eucharist, and not the blood of the redeemer gains its true significance. And it is through this understanding that the physical violence shared by Christianity and the Dionysus cult in history can finally attain its meaning in the voyage of the mind to the roots of death in letting go completely by loosing the bands of order and entering, like Orpheus, Dionysus, Persephone, Inanna and Jesus the living world of the ego-death the living experience of the Bardo. To achieve this requires just the shattering of the world of order the the chaos of the unfettered mystical state that attends the rebirth of the soul in new life.

This age old practice can be traced back to ancient tradition found in tribes in Africa, Europe, and Asia. This ritual is seen today in the Easter enactments of the passion play and was widely present in the past. In Babylon an annual ritual of a mock slaying of the fair youth Adonis and his raising from the dead symbolized a continued renewal of the earth. The concept stems from the most primitive nature of man: IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD II ~ In the Court of the Crimson King ~

12.18 Prophecy and Miraculous Bewitchment

In the art of prophecy, madness is represented as secret knowledge. Plutarch explicitly says that in the opinion of "the ancients" Dionysus played a large part in prophecy. According to Herodotus, " there was an oracle of Dionysus in Thrace with a prophetess, as in Delphi."

The hymn which Philodamus of Skarpheia composed for Delphi in the middle of the fourth century tells us that all of the immortals danced at the birth of Dionysus. Semele, herself, during her pregnancy, was supposedly seized by an irrepressible desire to dance, and whenever she heard the sound of a flute, she had to dance; and the child in her womb danced, too.

What is the reason for this tremendous excitement, this deep trance? The world man knows, in which he has settled himself so securely that world is no more. The turbulence has swept it away. Everything has been transformed. The primeval world has stepped into the foreground, the depths of reality have been opened, the elemental forms of everything that is creative, everything that is destructive, have arisen, bringing with them infinite rapture and infinite terror. The innocent picture of a well- ordered routine world has been shattered by their coming, and they bring with them no illusions or fantasies but truth - a truth that brings on madness.

Rocks split open, and streams of water gush forth. Everything that has been locked up is released. The alien and the hostile unite in miraculous harmony. Age-old laws have suddenly lost their power, and even the dimensions of time and space are no longer valid.

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Why do you teach all of those myths

May 13 2014, 5:44 PM 

This thread was begun as a way to mock the use of myths and legends in order to understand the huge body of literature men like Paul did not need to write about in order to tell the Disciples what they SHOULD DO. History of reason demands that when God tells us what to do to be saved or "safe" He does not have to tell us NOT to do anything else. Because church is a School of the Word we do not have to be too concerned with the pagan accounts unless we suddenly see and hear the preacher say that "a" spirit told him to impose instrumental music and threaten anyone who would be classified as disobedient to the will of god as the imagination of those Paul defined as LYING IN WAIT. THEIR "spirit" tells them that Paul was insisting on "unity in diversity." You have to know that no one can be that ignorant and therefore as the say they are INTENTIONAL.

The mockers can accuse you as liars or spreading dung but they WILL NOT ever accept that their job, like Amos 8 and Isaiah 5, using wine, women and instruments to INTENTIONALLY STARVE people for lack of the free water of the word. Jesus said that the Father sent Him to rescue a LITTLE FLOCK.

Luke 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Fathers good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

If you are obsessed with raising money and trying to heard the masses together Jesus wants you to know that if a person is part of the LITTLE FLOCK of lost spirits the Father will find them.

Paul warned that it would be the elders with the dangerous presumed authority who would have the authority to invite the wolves in: wolves run in packs so they are not par of the little FLOCK. Elders feed the Little Flock with the Word (only) but wolves eat up the flock and even craunch their bones.

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Cain connects directly to the Muses or singing girls under Apollyon

May 13 2014, 8:20 PM 

We have noted that Moses did not begin to write and had no reason to write his books until AFTER the Israelites had been saved by Grace and immediately returned to musical idolatry. God turned them over to worship the starry host and sentenced them back to Babylon and beyond. God then gave the THE BOOK OF THE LAW because of their transgression. Moses does not begin to write a history of the universe but of the Hebrew people who BECAME dark or ignorance. The Sumerians began organized societies close to the c. BC 4000 period and destroyed free society as a gift from God and made them slaves of the people who knew how to "chant their pants off" with musical sounds as the meaning of the SERPENT or musical enchanter(ess). Others knew how to make weapons and threaten those who did not attend the services: both the sabbath as a WORK day for the serfs and a REST day for the clergy which consisted of priests, singers, instrument players, exorcists, cooks, bakers and even prostitutes. You can let the flat earth preachers make Christianity despised and rejected and mocked or you can slip out of the "sermon and songs" and go to the library.

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And his brother's name was Jubal,.... This was another son of Lamech by Adah, and his name differs only in one letter from his brother's:

he was the father of all such that handle the harp and organ: he was the inventor of instrumental music, both of stringed instruments, such as were touched by the fingers, or struck with a quill, as the "harp"; and of wind instruments, such as were blown, as the "organ", which seems not to be the same we call so, being a late invention; but however a pleasant instrument, as its name signifies.

Jubal is thought by some to be the same with Apollo, to whom with the Greeks the invention of the harp is ascribed; and some have been of opinion, that the jubilee trumpet was so called from Jubal, Leviticus 25:9.

Sanchoniatho (r) makes Chrysor or Vulcan, the same with Tubalcain, the brother of Jubal, to exercise himself in eloquence, songs and divination, confounding or mistaking the employment of the two brothers.

The Arabs have such a notion of the Cainites being the inventors of music, that they commonly call a singing girl "Cainah" (s); and the Arabic writers (t) make Jubal to be the first inventor of music, and that the BEASTS and birds gathered together to hear him; the same that is said of Orpheus.

(r) Apud Euseb. Praepar. Evangel. l. 1. p. 35. (s) Abulpharag. Hist. Dynast. p. 9. (t) Elmacinus, p. 8. apud Hottinger. Smegma, p. 232.

the endings bel & bal seem to refer to the god of Cain's family:

In the Bible CAIN is derived from a musical note: that is the MARK in Revelation. Leon R. Kass (The Beginning of Wisdom: Reading Genesis) says that Cain (qayin) is related to qanithi, from a root qanah, meaning "to possess"

Qayin (h7013) kah'-yin; from 6969 in the orig. sense of fixity; a lance (as striking fast): - spear.
Quwn (h6969) koon; a prim. root; to strike a musical note, i. e. chant or wail (at a funeral): - lament, mourning woman

Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Consider ye, and call for the mourning women, that they may come; and send for cunning women, that they may come: Je.9:17

The "Singing Girls" are the Muses or Locusts in Revelation 18: in the religion of the Babylon Mother of Harlots the speakers, singers and instrument players are "lusted after fruits" and are called Sorcerers. The Grace-Centered movement does not grasp that the Graces and Muses were the same or similar and both prostituted their bodies and talents. It is logical that Grace-Centered FLAUNTS the law by saying "we can sin but grace is going to make it ok."

The Cainites are sometimes called libertine Gnostics for believing that true perfection, and hence salvation, comes only by breaking all the laws of the Old Testament. The violation of biblical prescriptions was, therefore, a religious duty.

Because it was difficult to violate all biblical laws during a single lifetime, the Cainites did not look for salvation in the created world but rather escape from it. Their subversion of biblical stories allowed them to use Sacred Scripture to support their dualistic view of existence.

1. Others again declare that Cain derived his being from the Power above, and acknowledge that Esau, Korah, the Sodomites, and all such persons, are related to themselves.

On this account, they add, they have been assailed by the Creator, yet no one of them has suffered injury. For Sophia was in the habit of carrying off that which belonged to her from them to herself.

They declare that Judas the traitor was thoroughly acquainted with these things, and that he alone, knowing the truth as no others did, accomplished the mystery of the betrayal; by him all things, both earthly and heavenly, were thus thrown into confusion. They produce a fictitious history of this kind, which they style the Gospel of Judas.

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The Kairos-Hermes-Orpheus-Pan arrival

May 19 2014, 12:02 PM 

The PATTERN by Christ from the Church in the wilderness onward by commands and examples made the assembly EXCLUSIVELY a mutual reading and confessing the Word of God: this is the way Jesus commanded to make DISCIPLES contrary to the rise of the DISCIPLING DILEMMA making the disciplers superior but accountable. Any time those Jesus defined as hypocrites take control over Jesus and His Word, there will be an automatic rise of the PIED PANS or PETER PANS producing a gender confused ANTI school of the Word.

The sudden rise of the TRINITY also brought Abaddon or Apollyon as the Leader of the musical worship teams with or without instruments. The rise of the MOTHER CHURCH hatching DAUGHTER churches involves the Kairos Church Planting Plot: Kairos is the demon spirit son of Zeus who is the son of Cronos and they boast about the KAIROS or opportune time to follow the Babylon Mother of harlots (Revelation 17). Paul warned about the dogs or concision as the emasculated priests of the Mother of the Gods. They are called "lusted after fruits" in Revelation 18 and in Amos 8 as the MARK that God had been there and "would not pass by again." John says that they will be (are) cast alive into the lake of fire because they are OF the World and Jesus refused to speak to the Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites named as speakers, singers and instrument players in Ezekiel 33. That is why we laugh and call them PETER PANS.

Of the three aspects, [1] Phanes is said to be the 'father', [2] Ericapæus the 'power', and [3] Metis the 'intellect', in Platonic terms (see Damascius, Quæst., p. 380). Damascius (p. 381) further describes this Power as being symbolized by Orpheus as 'a God without a body, with golden wings on his shoulder and having on his sides the heads of bulls, and on his head a monstrous dragon with the likeness of every kind of wild beast.' This symbolism is more simply given in the same passage as 'a dragon with the heads of a bull and lion and in the midst the face of a God, with wings on the shoulders.' This was the symbol of Pan, the All-Father, the Universal Creative Power or absolute 'Animal'--the source of all living creatures. And Proclus (in Tim., iii.130) writes of the same symbol:

'The first God, with Orpheus, bears the heads of many animals, of the ram, the bull, the snake, and bright-eyed lion; he came forth from the Primal Egg, in which the Animal is contained in germ.' And later on (p. 131) he adds: 'And first of all he was winged.'

The Hymns of Orpheus

Pan [ALL], it is well known, is the same with the Universe, and is called by Orpheus(Protogonos), as we are informed by Damascius Now [1] Jupiter in the Orphic theology, is the demiurgus of the universe, or the first intellect; and [2] Apollo, in the intellectual world, is the same with Jupiter, as we have shewn in our notes to the Sun. Hence the reason is obvious why Pan is called in this Hymn, all-fertile Pan. And if we compare the Orphic fragment, given in the Dissertation, with the present Hymn, we shall find a striking resemblance; as the king and father of universe, Protogonus or Jupiter is there celebrated as being all things; and is represented under the symbol of a divine body, whole members are the various parts of the world.

The sportive nymphs. This is because Pan rejoices in the exhalations produced from humid substances; without which the world cannot subsist. Phurnutus.
The NYMPHS are the BRIDES in Revelation 18 (the Heiros Gamos] And Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon) is the Spirit or leader of the MUSES or "musical worship teams."

True serpent-horned Jove. The reason why Pan is horned, is, because Jove is the mingler of all things, according to Orpheus, as we learn from Jo. Diac. Allegor. in Hesiod. p. 305; and the word is as Gesner observes, derived from the verb to mingle: so that horns are an occult symbol of the mingling and tempering power of the demiurgus of the world. But the literal meaning of the wordis horned serpent; and one of the heads of Protogonus is that of a serpent. We may add that Pan considered as the soul of the world, is with great propriety called Jove; since that appellation is given by Orpheus to the mundane soul.

It is natural that people would get upset when you see the success of the MASSED MULTITUDES (beasts) being sucked in and deceiving them into believing that they are the GOOD GUYS. We call them ANGELS OF LIGHT who are ANGELS OF BLIGHT. They call themselves progressives almost back to Babylon as the DAUGHTER churches of the Babylon mother of harlots. Selling ANY body part as required to replace or "further expound" what Jesus already expanded is called by Paul and civil Greek society as PROSTITUTION.

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Re: The Kairos-Hermes-Orpheus-Pan arrival

May 19 2014, 9:18 PM 

SEE ceni COMMANDS, EXAMPLES, INFERENCES and discuss This has brought up a lot of discussion of the Great God Pan (all, play) as the pagan father of the pagan trinities..

See and Discuss Paul's warning against Myths, Jewish Fables and Yarns spun into sermons

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Update on the Lipscomb: ANTI Church of Christ Promotion

May 29 2014, 10:42 AM 

I believe that John Mark Hicks brought the fatal virus from Memphis: he and Rubel Shelly have led the charge of hate against churches of Christ who will not agree with them. They validate Paul's warning against men who cannot HEAR the Word when it is preached by being READ, nor can they READ black text on brown paper. Of course, they use "theology" instead of the Bible. That is fine for Doctors of the Law whom Jesus said TAKE AWAY THE KEY TO KNOWLEDGE. However, Spurgeon could not find nor invent a word to define the moral depravity of a preacher who would take pay from and group and then betray it.

Lipscomb Celebration. Those not exuding pheromones and are decidedly ANTI-church of Christ and PRO-INSTRUMENTAL music need not apply. None of the Nashville Wrecking Crew has ever mentioned the "music" issue without lying TO God and ABOUT God. Further, they infiltrate (slither, wind)literate Churches of Christ because Paul warned and NAMED them as LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.

It is not possible for anyone who has ever read the Bible to even hallucinate instruments and Visible-Audible females and "wannabes". Jesus named them Sons of Perdition and ANTI-christs because they make the Spirit OF Christ into a buddy and claim that he whispers apostsy into their ears. Here is the picture wine, women (pseudo) and music.

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The band of Soul Snatchers will always include those who betrayed the lambs into the hands of wolves (that gender thingy)

I believe that Scripture posted this chart: I extended it and maybe someone can up date it. This is the curve that "Bull" Dozered.

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It has been noted that Calvinism is strong among the Bible leadership at LU: several out of the "Reformed Universities."

The New York (Behind the) Times has just picked up on a trend thats been going on since the early 1990s: Evangelicals Find Themselves in the Midst of a Calvinist Revival. Readers of the piece will learn that some of the hottest evangelical preachers are Calvinist, that John Calvin himself did not read scripture literally, and that Calvinists are sneakyat least according to some opposite-leaning evangelicals who resent how their churches have been infiltrated.

If you look at the "keynoters for one hour" at LU for the last few years you will discover those who have infiltrated and diverted their congregation into instrumental music. Rick Atchley who is still the dressed up darling at LU believes that "a" spirit told him that God commanded instrumental praise. North Boulevard in Murfressboro (my erst while) is representing with the claim that tidbits in the book of psalms means that God COMMANDED INSTRUMENTAL noise. They are going the same way with the introduction of a "praise team" at a new daughter church following the path of Max Lucado and others who use non-instrumental money to establish instrumental churches. Always begin with a sit-down, microphone praise team which is that which is "praised".

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Re: Update on the Lipscomb: ANTI Church of Christ Promotion

May 30 2014, 9:30 AM 

North Boulevard Church in Murfreesboro is following in the Path of Madison and fueled by the Calvinists at Lipscomb and other places. North Boulevard went through the Purpose Driven Church and now David is preaching on PREDESTINATION. After dropping all of that money in Murfreesboro, the elders have decided to BLOCK my access to their web pages. So, I will present some of the general Nashville Wrecking Crew's adoption of Calvinism. Whey they say that GOD predestines they REALLY MEAN that the dominant preacher person predestines. They do not know what the Bible teachers or do not care: they can still use the "christian" logo until they get ready to remove CHRIST from their public confession.

Dennis Costella asks:

"So what are some of the changes that must take place for a local assembly to adopt the growth strategy of the Saddleback model? From our understanding of the plan which was clearly spelled out at the seminar, the following must occur in order to transform a traditionally-styled church of any size into one that can boast dramatic growth,

> A contemporary-styled "Seeker Service" aimed at drawing in the unsaved and the unchurched from the community must replace the traditional Sunday worship service. To do this successfully, the church service must be non-threatening, familiar and comfortable to the "seeker" (the unsaved visitor).

> The dress must be casual. The typical "Saddleback Sam" (a researched composite of the unchurched yuppie commonly found in Saddleback Church's surrounding community) dresses up for work all week, and he wants to "dress down" on the weekends. (As we shall see throughout this article, Saddleback Sam's likes and dislikes are what determine the style of the church service.) Warren: "Get comfortable. This is as dressed up as I get in this church. My idea of winter is I put on socks, and obviously I don't think it's winter yet."

> The music must be contemporary. Not only must the lyrics of the music be more recent, but the style of music should be that which the unsaved hears on a daily basis. The entertainment composite of the Saddleback sound system, band, singers and presentation would rival that of any secular rock concert. Warren stated that one of the first things a church should do is "replace the organ with a band." But he went on to say that if a band was not feasible, then at least a church could purchase a keyboard that will incorporate midi disks in order to give the sound of a band.

Furthermore, the purpose of the church choir should be "backing up the soloist. That's the 90's way to use a choir rather than just having them sing."

> The message must be only positive. We consider this to be the most flagrant flaw. Yes, the saved and unsaved alike can feel better about themselves after a message that often mixes psychology and an uplifting Scripture text. Such topics as dealing with guilt, self-esteem, interpersonal relationships, mood enhancement or motivation for success will encourage the worldly, weary individual. But what is God's command to the faithful undershepherd of the flock? Far, far different.

> Like the 'pyramidal structure' God allowed to be imposed by the kings of Israel and Judah as a curse to take away the resources and liberties of the people, the "ministry system" might have 50 "ministries" devoted to meeting secular needs. There are: "Support groups for depression, eating disorders, infertility, family and friends of homosexuals, post abortion, and separated men and women were abundant... We could not find one single ministry listed in Saddleback Community Church's bulletin that involved the taking the Gospel message out to the lost in the community. In fact, Warren scoffed at the idea of passing out tracts or going door-to-door since "Saddleback Sam" is offended by such old-fashion, out-moded forms of evangelism.

> Doctrinal instruction is not given to the church as a whole on the Lord's Day. All things to all people means that if you want to know anything doctrinal you will have to advance to the next stage by joining a small group. This "doctrine" is likely to be a perversion of the Biblical doctrine and message kept within the "next circle" leading to the CORE of leaders.

> You must be willing to compromise if you are to experience dynamic growth. If you state any Biblical fact even on the internet you can identify these "locusts" by their insistance that you cannot say what Jesus said or Paul said without condemning those who don't believe what you believe. Therefore, Dr. Rubel Shelly, Leroy Garrett and the Vineyard group has developed the "core" gospel. This consists of about seven facts "about" Jesus. Everything else must be compromized or perverted in the interest of "unity in diversity."

The embrace of contemporary culture and style will most assuredly set the desired mood that totally opposes the Biblical mandate to earnestly contend for the faith and separate from error. What works, what is least offensive and what is positive and uplifting is what should define the ministry, according to Warren. The church leaders who are interested in dynamic growth must embrace the attitude that says,

"Don't try to tell me the Bible requires holiness and a style for worship and ministry that is different from that of the world."

This "grace-in-your-face" attitude is so prevalent today because of church elders who are not willing, or not aware of how, to instruct ones to behave in the house of God (1 Tim. 3:15).

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David Young: North Boulevard EX church of Christ: Damnable HERESY PREDESTINATION

May 31 2014, 4:28 PM 

If you want to listen to the sounds and spiritual violence of one DESTINED to Hell (Isaiah 30)this is David Young having fully NEUTERED the elders and gone full blown Neo-Calvinists or the Hyper-Calvinism promoted by David Lawrence at Lipscomb click here. A Calvinist is the later day "scholar" sense makes God INFINITELY more evil than Adolph Hitler. These people have to DELIBERATLY lie because delusional because the text refutes the devilish apostosy.

David says the ABSOLUTE PROOF that God crafted a CROWN from you from eternity past with YOUR name on it is that you KEEP ON STRUGGLING against sin.

He says that God PREDESTINATED those in HIS church who respond and want to be baptized to receive A HOLY SPIRIT as proof. If you just keep on lying about God and to God that is proof that you are predestinated.

If he blasphemes by saying that God COMMANDED INSTRUMENTAL music then you have been PREDESTINATED.

David Young is so UTTERLY SUPERIOR to all of the old Churches of Christ from whom he and the elders STOLE the church house that he mounts an attack as the ADVERSARY or FALSE ACCUSER that God MUST have predestinated him.

To say that God PREDESTINATED any named person to receive THE HOLY SPIRIT (God) inside of him to go to heaven is a bald faced lie and proof that God is POURING OUT HIS WRATH (that preaching, singing, playing, clapping, shouting, hugging and kissing happy.gif ) on people who are Scribes and Pharisees.

To say that God PREDESTINATED (meaning determined) that you sweet little girl is a congenital murderess, adulteresses and God is going to burn her in Hell is so evil that God didn't decide to give me a word for it.

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Re: David Young: North Boulevard EX church of Christ: Damnable HERESY PREDESTINATION

June 2 2014, 8:39 PM 

I have to agree that IT AIN'T NO SIN. I have tried to make this point several times but it won't stick in brains made of swiss cheese.

It is true: saying that SPEAK means SING, using musical praise teams, using musical instruments, clapping, shouting, dancing etc is NOT the sin.

These are the MARKS in sight and sound to Mark for Avoidance people who hate God (predestination) and tell Him to "shut your face, we do not need nor want to hear from you." How do I know that? I got a special revelation by reading BLACK text on WHITE paper! It is such a SIGN that no one can doubt inspiration. Here is what Job said:

Wherefore do the wicked live, become old, yea, are mighty in power? Job 21:7
Their seed is established in their sight with them,
and their offspring before their eyes. Job 21:8
Their houses are safe from fear, neither is the rod of God upon them. Job 21:9
Their bull gendereth, and faileth not; their cow calveth, and casteth not her calf. Job 21:10
They send forth their little ones like a flock, and their children dance. Job 21:11
They take the timbrel and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the organ. Job 21:12
They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave. Job 21:13

Therefore they say unto God,
.....Depart from us;
.....for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways. Job 21:14

What is the Almighty, that we should serve him?
.....and what profit should we have,
.....if we pray unto him? Job 21:15

So, they do not BECOME wicked by all of the musical juvenile practices. They PRACTICE music AGAINST God because they ARE WICKED. Therefore, it is good that God gives us a SIGN in all of the instrumental passages.

Lo, their good is not in their hand:
.....the counsel of the wicked is far from me. Job 21:16
How oft is the candle of the wicked put out
.....and how oft cometh their destruction upon them!
.....God distributeth sorrows in his anger. Job 21:17
They are as stubble before the wind,
.....and as chaff that the storm carrieth away. Job 21:18

This is the baptism of SPIRIT (wind) and FIRE: none of the people who claim "holy spirit power" can grasp that John marks the VIPER RACE

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Claim that ADDED rituals were not CONDEMNED part A

June 11 2014, 3:56 PM 

Instrumental idolaters claim that GRACE covers deliberate sin and confess that instrumental idolatry IS SIN but Grace is gonna cover up the smell.

John Calvin understood that the LOGOS is the Regulative principle and defined the synagogue.

One of the claims even by PHDS is that God did not command the synagogue but it was ADDED from silence and it is never condemned. However, even with a Phd people look up the word "synagogue" and fail to grasp or care that the synagogue was observed during the time of Jacob who warned everyone not to attend the assemblies or enter into covenant with the LEVI TRIBE. The assembly for the godly people is defined both inclusively:

EXCLUSIVE stop the "vocal or instrumental rejoicing and rhetoric or self speak.
INCLUSIVE of PREACHING the WORD (only) by Reading it during the REST DAY. They were to rehearse or "meditate in the heart."

THE FALSE CLAIM of ADDED FROM SILENCE but APPROVED. This gives humans the right to IMPOSE something which is deliberately discording and claim Jesus as their authority. One such example

There are several: the apostles and Jesus participated in synagogue worship throughout the gospels. Synagogue worship is a completely extraBiblical worship that is not authorized/outlined in the OT but developed during the Babylonian exile when Temple worship was not possible. However, this practiced flourished even after the return from Babylon, rebuilding the Temple, and during the centuries prior to Christ.

I appreciate your comments. Let me take these bits at a time. The Spirit OF Christ especially in Isaiah 1 and Jeremiah 7 but in other prophets says that God did not command the Temple or anything connected with the Monarchy. Remember that the elders "fired" God and wanted a king. God warned them and warned that He would not protect them. The captivity and death sentence because of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai would be carried out: God gave them kings in His anger.

There are numerous names for the assembly of the godly tribes: Qahal, ekklesia, synagogue, church of Christ (the Rock) certainly after Israel's fall into instrumental idolatry of the Egyptian triad under the image of the golden calf or calveS. Because Abraham was to be a blessing to the nations, Jews hold that the synagogue always existed any time God had something to teach the people. The only spiritual covenant was made with God in Christ to Abraham. The tribal leaders had that role.

In Genesis 49 Jacob spans history as does Moses beginning in Genesis. Jacob commanded that people not gather or assemble with the Levi tribe nor to enter into any covenant with them. I am going to post two images because it is pretty difficult to format in my engineering fashion. All of the blue underlines are clickable on a text version which I can post as a html file. You will notice that Jacob speaks of the Qahal which is still a widely used word by the Jews for their synagogue which is a school. The qahal continued and the holy convocation which came to be each rest days was a reading only assembly. Both Jews and Gentiles were wise unto salvation because they attended the synagogue.

Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that PREACH him, being READ in the synagogues every sabbath day.

After the fall into musical idolatry:

2Cor. 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

You will notice that Jesus STOOD UP to read from Isaiah and then SAT DOWN. The command in all of the letters called Scripture is that they be READ:

Col. 4:16 And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.

Pay especial attention to the congregation or assembly of the tribe of Levi. The tribe that Jacob cursed God abandoned to carry out the "worship of the starry host" after executing 3,000 of their idolatrous brethren. The prophets and Stephen make it clear that God did not command the Civil-Military-Clergy complex: they came along with being abandoned as a nation to Babylonianism to be restored according to Revelation 17f.

Jesus didn't condemn the synagogue or church in the wilderness because Christ the Rock ordained it both exclusively and inclusively. The Spirit of Christ defined the same assembly especially in Isaiah. Genesis 49 seems to indicate that the "covenant made with God in Christ" to Abraham included the command to TEACH and comfort.

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Anyone who IMPOSES something something like instruments based on the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites as their FOUNDATION for "Musical worship teams" with or without instruments. That is why they are ANTI-Shiloh

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Re: David Young: North Boulevard EX church of Christ: Damnable HERESY PREDESTINATION

June 25 2014, 10:36 AM 

Jesus promised trouble just for speaking the WORD just as He spoke it by the Spirit (breath) of God without METER.

They go viral when you post the views of contemporary scholars who were not ignorant of the split between godly and decent people and the BEASTS of the field.

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Jeremiah Beasts Part B

June 25 2014, 2:42 PM 

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Re: Jeremiah Beasts Part B

July 5 2014, 10:48 PM 

We have noted that ZOE means "a means to get a living or scum on milk."

Occupation Musice , = mousikos: musice you are in clover, i. e. living luxuriously at another's expense,

There is NO music concept in the Bible. LEGALISM is like the Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrite just making up their PRODUCT and then learning, rehearsing and performing or marketing a parasitic art and craft: and all of the "universities" say AMEN!

Musica , ae, and Musike , mousike, I.the ART of music, music; acc. to the notions of the ancients, also every higher kind of artistic or scientific culture or pursuit:

God did not give them a ROLE nor DOLE since He paid it all: hope you will hold your purse close in the morning.

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Messianic Judaisers are Anti-Biblical and ANTI-Christian

August 31 2014, 9:01 PM 

From my time at North Boulevard Church of Christ the elders have supported and endorsed Joseph Shulam: so called Messianic Jew.

Joseph has worked many churches of Christ by claiming that Jesus is the messiah. However, they do not believe that Jesus as the Christ "destroyed the Jew's covenant with death and hell." They claim that NEW TESTAMENT or NEW COVENANT does not appear in the New Testament as a Bible. The New Covenant of the Prophets is simply the finishing work of the OLD TESTAMENT or TORAH. Torah means a law but the Law of Christ is not the Torah of Moses imposed on the Jews BECAUSE of musical idolatry of the trinity (Anti-Christ as defined by John). Therefore, THEY live by the Law of Moses while the godly Jews lived under the only spiritual covenant made by God in Christ to ABRAHAM. They attended church or synagogue to QUARANTINE the from Jerusalem which Jesus calls SODOM and the Mother of Harlots.

There is blasphemy and the ultimate of blasphemy supported by Lipscomb University and North Boulevard Church of Christ. Joe says that no one can understand the Bible without Jewish blood being ever so diluted flowing from one dispersed Jewish mother in some of the countries.

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Joe Shulam Who Killed Jesus? says Jesus died to perfect THE LAW OF MOSES

September 2 2014, 8:21 PM 

Most "mega churches" or "progressive churches" fulfill prophecy defined by the beginning Jerusalem as the "mother of harlots" and called "Sodom." That includes a dominate and dominating "king set over us" followed by building a pyramid or ziggurat type organization of STAFF for any imaginate task and filling up your "free time" with programs decidedly anti-Biblical.

Messianic Jews claim that Messiah just made the LAW OF MOSES more certain and that Jews still considered superior and chosen must follow the pattern of God turning the people over to worship the starry host.

You have to be Purpose Driven to be ANTI-Christ who defined the New Covenant made possible only after the Jew's covenant with death and hell was destroyed. Joe Shulam and those who support him claim that God planned and executed the murder of Jesus and the Jews by participated MADE SALVATION POSSIBLE to the Gentiles. In truth, only when the laded burden and burden laders were removed was it possible for both Jews and Gentiles to be SAVED FROM THAT CROOKED RACE.

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Shelly-York: Exodos as PATTERN. Now, Joshua as Pattern

September 3 2014, 12:34 PM 

Rubel Shelly as the foundation upon which much of the apostasy was built and John York did a series on Exodus as the PATTERN for the Church as a community meaning commune.

Now, Lipscomb University is using Joshua as the pattern they believe God commanded the Jews or defacto Egyptians to move into Canaan and slaughter all of the owners and confiscate their property. That is the Purpose Driven Cult pattern to "infiltrate and divert" and Carrol D. Osburn's pattern for feminist theology using "small acts of treachery."

Consistent with the FACTS in most modern "churches" York and Shelly insists that "Individuals lose their right to read, interpret or speak the Word OUTSIDE of the community (commune) reading." That reading is that of the now-dominant preacher person unable to read the Word by the operation of God Who sends strong delusions.

That is the Community Church of Family of God plot they tried in my town.

Consistent with the feminists (Fuller) theology at LU using Ignatian Retreats to ignore the written WORD and get a message directly from someone. In the Jew's covenant with death and hell (Amos) they held religious festivals WITH and FOR dead ancestors. The LU head says that there was nothing wrong with their WORSHIP: they just had a bad mental attitude.

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Armageddon in the spiritual realm is not the War of the world but the War of Words. Organon or a musical instrument for doing hard work mostly in making war.

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Part A: Lipscomb Buy and Sell List: Music marks those Cast Alive into the Lake of Fire

September 4 2014, 1:21 PM 

We have noted that the Lipscomb powers allow those to BUY and SELL marks of the prophesied End time:

The MERCHANTS (corrupters of the Word) either TEACH or AFFIRM by participating the use of what they call "instrumental music in worship."

Long time Endorsement of Edward Fudge who claims some honor in destroying church of Christ "distinctives" (a lie word) as instrumental music.

Edward Fudge is a man of fame for making "for ever and ever" and "in this world and the world (aion) to come" mean just a short for ever and ever.

He denies and the "buy and sell approved list" must AFFIRM the historic or traditional or Before.Me Age that the Spirit as recorded and preserved for thousands of years just didn't know what He (God) was talking about.

HOWEVER, we have asserted the fact that using INSTRUMENTAL MACHINES FOR MAKING NOISE which dissociates the mind (sorcery) and Makes Jesus the Lamb and all of their collectivized PAYING AUDIENCE dumb before the slaughter is the CAUSE or MARK of God removing His LAMPS in preparation for CASTING THEM ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

The SOUNDS--LIKE HARPS and other PANIC-CREATING SOUNDS they claim is "a" spirit's command for them to impose instrumental performance within CONTEXT shows that it is a SIGN OF JUDGMENT, TIME IS SHORT, SO PREACH THE GOSPEL which includes no music or Musicators.

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Stephen in Acts 7 defines the musical idolatry at Sinai and Jerusalem

September 9 2014, 7:51 PM 

The Spirit OF Christ in Isaiah 30 said that God drives His enemies into "HELL" to the sound of wind, string and percussion instruments.

These are the same instruments Lucifer the singing and harp-playing prostitute brought into the Garden of Eden.

One of the "gods" they worshipped was Moloch in whose red hot arms the Jews burned infants while the clergy beat on instruments.

Stephen alerted the Clergy to the fact that God had ABANDONED them and not COMMANDED them to worship the starry host.

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Messianic Jews Jewish Pattern for Christianity DEFENDED by NBlvd

September 14 2014, 3:30 PM 

The end time PLAGUE which began with the synagogue of LEVI which Jacob warned us about.

YOUR church is built upon the pattern of the Catholics who built upon the pattern of the Jews including the LEVITES as their pattern for musical presenters (not congregational singing: they were not silly).

We have noted that the new church organization is based on the pyramid or the ziggurate tower of Babel: the Jewish Temple was a ziggurat because God abandoned them back to Babylonianism.

The rise of "instrumental music" is also founded on the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites who were called soothsayers-sorcerers.

Much of this has been manipulated by Joseph Shulam who believes that Jesus was the Messiah but otherwise says that Jesus died to AFFIRM the Law of Moses. This is enough for him to rake in lots of appearances and money. However, God ABANDONED the Jews back to Babylon and the end time Babylon Mother of harlots (Revelation 17) uses lusted after FRUITS as speakers, singers and instrument players. They are SORCERERS who HAD deceived the whole world and would be cast alive into the lake of fire.

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Jeff Walling and the Christian Church:

September 17 2014, 8:50 PM 

Now part of the Pepperdine PLOT to REPROGRAM preachers into Christian Church Preachers. It is bad enough to lie about the Bible and recorded history as resourcing religious music to Satan, but to wear the mask of the Church of Christ and mocking and lying slowly "boil the frogs" as the boast is certainly the reason that the Bible always associates "cunning craftsmen, singers, instrument players and grinders or prostitutes" with SORCERY and promises to CAST THEM ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE because they are LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.

Jeff walling, local stolen congregations and Pepperdine are in the same bed as the Christian Church. Of course, no one ever believed the lie of 'unity' what they meant is if we BETRAY YOUR CHURCH then we can have UNITY with the NACC whose total history is to so musical idolatry. Pepperdine and the Christian Church has the same organization.

The Christian Church Today This past week, the North American Christian Convention, Pepperdine University, and Mike Baker, senior pastor at Eastview Christian Church in Normal, IL and 2015 NACC president, debuted the website for its "Next Gen Preacher Search." High school and college students interested in preaching are invited to submit a five-minute video of their preaching for review, feedback, and coaching. 40 submissions will be chosen as semi-finalists and the selected students will be assigned a "mentor preacher" who will work with them for six months.

Next February the semi-finalists will attend a training event with Jeff Walling, Trevor DeVage, and other leaders, and from these forty students, four will be chosen to preach at gatherings like the NACC, the Pepperdine Bible Lectureship, and the Winterfest conferences.

Jeff Walling has been USED by LU, Madison and North Boulevard Church in Murfreesboro to promote the HOW TO TRANSISTION YOUR CHURCH TO INSTRUMENGS.

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