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The old TORAH has been ABROGATED not ENHANCED

September 21 2014, 3:43 PM 

Much of the prophesied apostasy is based on the universities and churches using JOSEPH SHULAM claiming to be a "Messianic Jew." However, that is a ploy to get someone to finance an ANTI-Biblical and ANTI-Christian fall from grace.

Joseph Shulam is a PRESIDE OVER at North Boulevard: his Hebrews and Galatians is nothing short of the prophesied lying in wait to deceive.

Messiah is not the Messiah of Christianity but defender and supporter of the Law of Moses they all the Torah as a slick word meaning a law.

The NEW COVENANT like the OLD BOOK OF THE COVENANT is for the PEOPLE and there are no Priests or Levites or Clergy of ANY KIND.

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Note about Ken Durham at the Madison combo 1000 member attendance

September 22 2014, 10:04 AM 

Guest was Ken Durham from LU once part of the University Church-Pepperdine grouping with the NACC to help transistion preachers.

His wife serves as senior Vice President at LU which with ACU and Pepperdine has turned their coats toward the Christian Church or the NACC. And turned toward "instrumental, female leadership, Calvinism" and a few other marks of not knowing the meaning of church or worship. The ANTI-Church and ANTI-Christ as Messiah of the NEW Testament and using the Jacob-Cursed and God-Abandoned Levites as their PATTERNISM for church built on the temple or Tower of Babel model as the "Temple as pattern for New Testament Worship." Messianic Judaism:

http://www.piney.com/New.Torah.Not.the.Old.Torah.html

I remember when-- as the ANTIS prophesied -- the Herald of Truth with Ken Durham turned mushy. That was about the time that Steve Flat aka Rubel Shelly Jubileed the church in Nashville. As all recorded history identifies MUSIC with SORCERY (Miriam, Levites, Revelation 18) proves that it is more than DOCTORS OF THE LAW TAKING AWAY THE KEY TO KNOWLEDGE as Paul in the "DISunity in DIVersity pattern" they are THEY ARE LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.

This is the SPIRITUAL TERRORISM or ISIS in most religionism: you should get out before the TOWERS FALL.

Promoting Lady Durham as a model of female leadership.

http://robertcargill.com/tag/church-of-christ/page/2/

http://robertcargill.com/tag/instrumental-music/

The Jerusalem Temple Model

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ISIS as the MOTHER GODDESS (Revelation 17) of the Egyptian Trinity. Isis had to do it when Osiris lost his penis (Isaiah 3). She made him a WOODEN one to make all of his collected body parts feel good.

Osiris, Isis [mother, dove, spirit] and Horus are the Egyptian-Jewish model of the universal EVE parable.

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The Unknown God of the Musical Discorders is Apollyon

September 27 2014, 2:23 PM 

David Young says that Paul used "pagan writers" in his preaching (writing). This is one of the FOUNDATIONS being used to as they say "TRANSISTION" a church away from the Word. He-they miss the point that Jesus as Spirit promised to lead Paul into all truth. When Peter left his "part" for our memory he outlawed "further expounding" it because that was the way to MARK false teachers who denied that Jesus was guided by the Spirit or Mind of God. Modern preachers are not on the list in Ephesians 4 and do not have the ability to modify or enhance the Word of God which does not go out of style.

http://www.piney.com/North.Boulevard.Church.Of.Christ.Change.html

Paul was a Christ-inspired apostle and used the pagan scholars to define the ANTI-CHRISTIAN paganism. He did not need them to help define the Church or a preacher's authority to impose paganisn to ENHANCE the Word and produce unity in diversity. Otherwise, the leaders say, it would be SELFISH if we did not let the pagans (instrumentalists) be able to enjoy OUR company.

Apollyon is the SPIRIT and LEADER of the Muses who were SHEPHERDS and "mere bellies of shame." Paul warned women against stand up-preside over roles as the only certain way to guard against the Unknown God replacing Jehovah with their own "musical worship teams" always called sorderers.

Apollo, Abaddon or Apolloyon as the King of the Muses is at the KAIROS time unleashing the MUSES or LOCUSTS to separate those with sectarian marks.

Apollo is the "name of a number" and is unknown in that each center of Apollyon worship was named after local gods. Apollo Delphi is the "god" of Delphi and Apollo-Corinth is the god of Corinth specificially the women or effeminate.

 
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Lee Strobel School of Christian Thought (willowcreek North Boulevard Church of Christ)

October 15 2014, 10:32 PM 

Lee Strobel at North Boulevard Church of Christ School Of Christian Thought

http://www.piney.com/Lee.Strobel.School.of.Christian.Thought.Northwest.Church.of.Christ.html

2 Cor. 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Lee Strobel from the Willow Creek heresy imitated by the Promise Keepers Cult.

Spiritual Formation as in Lectio Divina speaks of a female sorcerer or hag.,

They have no trouble fooling the foolish because they DENY the Logos or Regulative principle which OUTLAWS fleecing people to bring in people speaking out of their own imagination just to SEE GODLINESS AS A MEANS OF FINANCIAL GAIN.

2Cor. 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
2Cor. 10:5 Casting down imaginations,and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

scĭentĭa a knowing or being skilled in any thing, knowledge, science, skill, expertness, = cognitio, eruditio oratio
oratoris autem omnis actio opinionibu
mŏvĕo A. Lit.: “movit et ad certos nescia membra modos,” Tib. 1, 7, 38: “ut festis matrona moveri jussa diebus,” to dance,
to disturb: “novis Helicona cantibus,” a. To excite, occasion, cause, promote, produce; to begin, commence, undertake:
undertake any thing that excites disturbance,

People will do anything to keep from having to obey the command from the wilderness onward to PREACH the Word by READING the Word for comfort and doctrine. That is the one-piece pattern and going beyond makes one a CULT.

 
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Only Christ can define Christian Faith

October 16 2014, 4:18 PM 

God never established COVENANTS with Scribes, Levites, Scribes and pharisees (Hypocrites says Christ: Ezekiel 33 speakers, singers, instrument players), rabbi, pulpit preachers, or any professional staff. All religions antithetical to the Liberty God gives individuals define its staff as parasites. Miriam and the Levites were musical prophesiers or soothsayer-socerers.

God made the first covenant with the domos or laity and denounced the covenant or assembly with Levi.

Christ brought the promised New Covenant to the people and denounced the doctors of law who "take away the key to knowledge."

The LITTLE FLOCK which Christ called OUT of the World is defined as an "umbrella" which is a SAFE HOUSE to hide from the "worship services" to which Jesus said the Kingdom does not come.

http://www.piney.com/Luke.17.Kingdom.Not.Observation.html

Jesus said DON'T GO THERE: the kingdom of God is within you and He commands you not go to any place claiming to be the visible kingdom.

REVERENT PRIVATE PEACE: EKKLESIA members have their spirits translated into a heavenly kingdom which protects them for the desperately striving people who promise that they can REVIVE US AGAIN.

WHEN THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS assemble one time a week in all of the commands and examples in the Bible they are called a SYNAGOGUE which is defined inclusively and exclusively as the Church of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness.

Jesus Christ limited that to what He commanded to be taught: that includes the PROPHETS inspired by the Spirit of Christ, the prophecies made more certain by Jesus and left for our memory by "parts" left by eye-- and ear-- witnesses.

Trying to be a CONTEMPORARY COHORT (universities and the NACC) intending to make war against Bible believers to PLANT doctrines ANTI Christian and TRIBULATING, is the sign first recorded in The Book of Enoch of LOST people trying to get comfort and MONEY from converts.

THE PROMISED PLAGUE includes being smitten by weeping sores and smiting musical instruments.

"Jingling, banging, and rattling accompanied heathen cults, and the frenzying shawms of a dozen ecstatic cries intoxicated the masses. Amid this euphoric farewell feast of a dying civilization, the voices of nonconformists were emerging from places of Jewish and early Christian worship ..." (Encyclopaedia Judaica, 1971 ed., s.v. "Music")

"Based on the concept of an organic pattern in the life course of civilization, a morphology of history: the idea that every culture has its period of youth, its period of culmination, its years then of beginning to totter with age and of striving to hold itself together by means of rational planning, projects, and organization, only finally to terminate in decrepitude, petrification... and no more life. Moreover, in this view of Spengler's, we were at present on the point of passing from what he called the period of Culture to Civilization, which is to say, from our periods of youthful, spontaneous, and wonderful creativity to those of uncertainty and anxiety, contrived programs, and the beginning of the end." (Campbell, Joseph, Myths to Live By, p. 84)


Please bow your head and pray that AT THE RIGHT TIME (Kairos church planting) Apollon the leader of the musicians" has been unleashed from a smokey hell.

If Lee is the MINISTER OF CHRISTIAN THOUGHT then can't we say that people repudiate Jesus as the Minister (Deacon, suffering servant) and Christ Who defined the REST for INDIVIDUALS in the Prophets.

Their PROMISE is that they are going to CAST DOWN what all of the "progressive" churches are building up after hiding the Elders and Deacons somewhere.

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Lee Strobel the purpose as a threat REPUDIATES the "world view."

October 18 2014, 12:04 PM 

A Christian is a Disciple of Christ and disciples are commanded to teach and observe what CHRIST commanded in the prophets made more certain by Jesus Christ and left for our memory.

A Christian is not OF the World and there is no such thing is a Christian World View: only the views of those who are disqualified when they are not "despised and rejected" for speaking the Words Christ spoke inspired by God the Father.

God commands that the Scriptures be PREACHED by being READ during our REST time. The reason is that man's imagination is evil and he will dilute, repackage and resell even the "free water of the Word" claiming that they are NOT blaspheming the Holy Spirit OF Christ.

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Re: David Young: School of Christian Thought-NOT

November 24 2014, 12:39 PM 

Well, I was finally forced to listen to David Young twisting Proverbs 3. Just as I expected, David went light on the need for everyone of us to look out for the poor but he ratcheted up in that intimidating style to insist that---

TITHING or giving 10 percent of your income as well as from your collected assets is God's MINIMUN standard.

IF you do not then you are ROBBING GOD. He infers from Malachi that means the working LAITY or DOMOS is implicated with robbery.

If you have 10 dollars in your purse when you die it will be a WITNESS against you.

This is not just a good thing to do escalating up to giving your transportation etal but is a SALVATION ISSUE.


Jesus paid it all and Paul said that the ONE TIME IN HISTORY giving to the starving people was not a COMMAND. Blasphemy is such an easy thing to do.

The people operating the pitiful temple had to return to the farms because the priests were eating up the food. They had to be whipped into retuning to Jerusalem called Sodom.

David Young fails to read context and blasphemes God and accuses Him of fleecing the lambs. The priests got 10 percent of the 10 percent given after harvest at best 3 years out of a seven year cycle. No one reaped on the 7th year so lots of luck. What David Missed from the Spirit OF Christ. The Tithes were to provide food (onlY) when on rare rotating duty AT the temple (only) with a daily dole of food (only). No new motorcycles from the widow fleece.

I have looked at the Malachi fallacy first: The horrors of the sacrificial was supposed to be kept behind closed gates: the priests, porters and Levites were given a daily dole of food (only) to prevent them from leaving the closed gates during their tenure of service (hard bondage). Malachi has a verse 1.

The FOUNDATION in Malachi 3. Notice the evil of taking money from wages.

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Joseph Shulam and David Young: Rabbi props up Jesus and the Writers.

June 10 2015, 11:52 AM 

Joseph Shulam agrees with all "Messianic Jews" that they are not Christians. It is antichristian to say that Jesus died to perpetuate the Law of Moses "given because of transgression." You don't have to be a Bible reader to be a rabbi or theologian.

http://www.piney.com/Joseph.Shulam.Yeshua.in.The.Talmud.One.html

If you wish Judaizers God Speed then you are a judaizer. In face the Kairos Church Planting Plot builds on the same platform as the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned tribe of Levites to worship the starry host including Abaddon-Apollon.

This series of lectures is intended to bring the knowledge and experience that rabbinical Judaism has on the issue of the Messiah, and more specifically, to deal with how these literal passages from the Talmud and from the Mishnah effect our understanding of the world of Jesus Christ and of the New Testament itself

The "People of God" is a larger set which includes Israel, but also includes gentiles in the Christian Churches as well as Messianic gentiles. Thus, a rabbinical Jew is part of "Israel", a Baptist is part of Ekklesia and a Messianic Jew is both "Israel" and Ekklesia. Further, rabbinical Jew, Baptist, and Messianic Jew, both Israel and Ekklesia, are "People of God." Messianic Judaism sees itself as the "link," the point of the graft between Israel and Ekklesia.


Jesus creates the NEW WORLD ORDER which is that of seeking and saving a little flock of lost spirits. It was the Jews who lied about the Gentiles who were never under a law for the lawless

Eph. 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph. 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:


The ONLY spiritual covenant was made with God in Christ to Abraham: the Law of Moses imposed because of Instrumental and Trinitarian Egyptian and Babylonian "rising up to play." Gentiles were never under the CURSE OF THE LAW and continued under the Abrahamic Covenant which had no Civil-Military-Clergy complex to rob and abuse the HOUSE or laity covenant which is exclusive of priests and Levites.

Contrary to Joseph Shulam and supporters that THEY do the connecting when they continue racial superiority which afflicts the world:

Eph. 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph. 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph. 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;


To the contrary to both Rabbi and Theologians never required to read the text in context. Paul wrote Romans 9-11 to prove that the instrumental-trinitarian worship which profaned the REST day is evidence that God did not PREDESTINATE the Jews but abandoned them to "worship the starry host.">

Rom. 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath,
.....and to make his power known,
.....endured with much longsuffering the
.....vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Rom. 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared [predestinated] unto glory,
Rom. 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?


Readers will know that in Galatians 3 Paul leapfrogged the Law period of an abandoned nation and showed that we are children of Abraham by faith For (what I means) is those who have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Abraham was a Wandering Aramean or Syrian he was a GENS or a national person and not a Jew.









 
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Joseph Shulam LU and Judaizing Churches of Christ

June 11 2015, 4:48 PM 

Judaism has brought great tribulation on the earth: most of it tribulating the godly Jews: Christ warned about the elders craunching the bones of the lambs instead of feeding them.

Judaism which means the God abandoned Monarchy was abandoned to worship the starry host because of musical and trinitarian idolatry. That is why the Temple and the Jewish sacrificial system which God did not command is patterned after Tyre and Babylon.

Christ warns about the lying pen of the Scribes and that is why there is no evidence that David as a great power or the temple ever existed.

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The NACC using False Teachers to "transistion" your church.

July 1 2015, 7:58 PM 

NACC 2015 Convention.

http://www.piney.com/North.American.Christian.Convention.NACC.html

We have added some text with pictures proving that from Mount Sinai the worship of the JEWS and now those supporting Jews has been star or FIRE worship. The Levites were an old infant-burning priesthood in Egypt and probably in Persia: Josephus calls them Brahmin.

All religious denominations (Name, address, phone number, e-mail, tax number, elected leaders) are always the product of a few men who believe that they should control all of the congregations. There have been many MOVEMENTS among Churches of Christ but they sow discord but cannot gain enough traction to keep from going broke and deeply in debt. For Instance the Jubilee was one such scheme.

The NACC loves to find defunct preachers and assign a handler to help guide them into the NACC. For instance, David Faust working with Christ Seidman and Rick Atchley. The White Paper has been the manifesto of apostate preachers.

Chris Seidman will again be one of the featured 2015 conferences.

 
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All Disciples are Victimized by false teachers LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE

July 2 2015, 1:45 PM 

The Boasted Wars were mounted by people willing to NOW say that Scripture COMMANDS instrumental music and you will be disobedient if you do not do it (Atchley) and you will be a hypocrite, legalistic, sectarian hate monger if you oppose what the "spirit" told us to do. Both instrumental and non instrumental disciples are victims of refusing to see the only assembly as for REST and conducting skho

Jesus said that Scribes and Pharisees were hypocrites: speakers, singers or instrument players. He said that these same doctors of the law "take away the key to knowledge."

skholē , skholēn agein to be at leisure, enjoy ease, keep quiet, amphi heauton for one's own business, a work for leisure, i.e. requiring attention,
2. a group to whom lectures were given, school, Arist.Pol.1313b3, Phld.Ind.Sto.10, D.H.Isoc.1,

1Cor. 1:26 For brethren, you see your calling, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble are called.


They deny that there is anything negative against musical instruments (called machines for doing hard work or producing SHOCK AND AWE) mostly in "making war."

1. So God COMMANDS instruments
2. God nor church history says nothing against instruments
3. Knowing that we will sow massive discord cause WE GONNA attract the WORLD and save more souls.

Paul promised strong delusions so that people who tamper with the WORD (regulative principle) engage in Lying wonders. Those are religious operations or observations claiming that rhetoric, singing, playing or acting is bringing Christ down so you can have a personal (sexual-like) experience with God.

No non-clergy historic writer or artist every failed to understand the musical-trinitarian worship on the REST day at Mount Sinai. For this sin God burdened them with the Law and the Jacob-cursed and God-Abandoned Levites to make instrumental noise called exorcism at the NOT commanded animal slaughter justified to feed the flesh and blood lust of the clergy.

Romans 10 and 1 Corinthians 10 warns of Mount Sinai as an EXAMPLE or PATTERN. Paul said they rose up to PLAY: how could anyone think that instrumental music and any good to add to the REST and education day. We like to think that they are self-consumed and want to be popular but while they speak of Unity In Diversity

Paul said that these performers are LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE

We then remember that the Little Flock of Disciples CANNOT be part of a MEGA CHURCH:

Matt. 20:16 So the last sha lbe first, and the first last: for many are called, but fewe chosen.

oligos slight, little or nothing, a little, slightly, lessen, diminish,
paucus , few, little, rare he select few (opp. multi, the many, the multitude):


Those who betray their trust and impose instruments

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Erasmus who rushed the first Greek New Testament to press to beat the opposition has much to say about a new Catholic system adopted by protestants of writing sermons based on a short phrase or Word. This method continued among the denominational preachers who swarmed into the Wild Frontier as the most popular forms of theater.

But perhaps I had better pass over our divines in silence and not stir this pool or touch this fair but unsavory plant,as a kind of men that are supercilious beyond comparison, and to that too, implacable;

lest setting them about my ears, they attack me by troops and force me to a recantation sermon,which if I refuse, they straight pronounce me a heretic.

For this is the thunderbolt with which they fright those whom they are resolved not to favor.And truly, though there are few others that less willingly acknowledge the kindnesses I have done them, yet even these too stand fast bound to me upon no ordinary accounts;

while being happy in their own opinion, and as if they dwelt in the third heaven, they look with haughtiness on all others as poor creeping things and could almost find in their hearts to pity them; while hedged in with so many magisterial definitions, conclusions, corollaries, propositions explicit and implicit, they abound with so many starting-holes that Vulcan's net cannot hold them so fast, but they'll slip through with their distinctions, with which they so easily cut all knots asunder that a hatchet could not have done it better, so plentiful are they in their new-found words and prodigious terms.

Besides, while they explicate the most hidden mysteries according to their own fancy--as how the world was first made; how original sin is derived to posterity; in what manner, how much room, and how long time Christ lay in the Virgin's womb; how accidents subsist in the Eucharist without their subject.


This was in violation of the Biblical Standard. They baptized far and near, and yet taught nowhere what was the formal, material, efficient, and final cause of baptism, nor made the least mention of delible and indelible characters.

They worshipped, 'tis true, but in spirit, following herein no other than that of the Gospel,

"God is a Spirit, and they that worship, must worship him in spirit and truth;"

yet it does not appear it was at that time revealed to them that an image sketched on the wall with a coal was to be worshipped with the same worship as Christ Himself, if at least the two forefingers be stretched out, the hair long and uncut, and have three rays about the crown of the head.

 
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Re: All Disciples are Victimized by false teachers LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE

August 29 2015, 12:22 PM 

When someone tries to steal a verse from God for their own agenda, I never fail to get truth slap me in the face: I believe that is the discernment of the WORD when you treat God THE Spirit with reverence and an open mind.

The Calvinists -- swarming in our institutions because "scholars" get their Simony degree from Calvinists universities -- claim verse 12

Phil. 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always OBEYED,
.....not as in my presence only,
.....but now much more in my absence,
.....WORK out your own salvation with fear and trembling.


We have noted that being SAVED means to be SAFE from whatever you are burdened with and be SAFE to be a Christian is a Disciple is a Student of Christ only IS NOT saved to be a SERF in a Religion of Worship observations to which God does not come.

If you are NOT a Student of the ONE ALMIGHTY OF THE UNIVERSE you are NOT saved or safe and your spirit cannot be prepared and WILL NOT be translated into a heavenly kingdom. Satan WANTS you to feel predestinated so that as false preachers boasts "I have a crown prepared and it cannot be removed." God gave us three score and ten to be EDUCATED but not entangled in the WORLD for which Jesus does not pray that is the Ecumenical.

katerg-azomai effect by labour, achieve one's object, be successful, make an end of, brought under cultivation, 3. serve the gods with prayers and sacrifices, “l. Phoibō”

Fear and Trembling does not mean with an arrogant, usurping worship team and feminine vibrato.

Heb. 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
Heb. 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
Heb. 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Reverentia timidity arising from high respect or (more rarely) from fear, respect, regard, fear, awe, reverence

latr-euō , to be subject or enslaved to, nomois obey,

Xen. Ages. 7.2 [2] Among the greatest services he rendered to his fatherland I reckon the fact that, though the most powerful man in the state, he was clearly a devoted servant of the laws. For who would be minded to disobey when he saw the king obeying? Who would turn revolutionist, thinking himself defrauded of his due, when he knew that the king was ready to yield in accordance with the laws?


Remembering that of those demanding a wage Paul said that FOOLS LOVE TO BE FOOLED.

This is the opposite of serving fear as Phoebus or Apollon

Eur. Ion 152 Here comes another, a swan, to the rim of the temple. Move your crimson foot elsewhere! Phoebus' lyre, that sings with you, [165] would not protect you from my bow. Alter your wings' course; go to the Delian lake; if you do not obey, you will steep your lovely melody in BLOOD...but I will be subject to Phoebus in my appointed tasks, and I will never cease my service to those who nourish me..

Isoc. 10 57 on the contrary, we submit more willingly to be the slaves of such than to rule all others, and we are more grateful to them when they impose many tasks upon us than to those who demand nothing at all. We revile those who fall under the power of anything other than beauty and call them flatterers, but those who are subservient to beauty we regard as lovers of beauty and lovers of service.


SO: They preach FAITH ONLY and fleece the widows and honest workers so that THEY can DO THE GOD WORK FOR YOU. Isn't that slicker than a salted slug? Apollon or Abaddon is the LEADER OF THE MUSICIANS named as LOCUSTS by John to fool the foolisn.


 
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David Young: Denouncing Churches of Christ promoting Instrumental Idolatry

September 1 2015, 10:01 PM 

In fact Christ beginning in the Church in the Wilderness OUTLAWED singing or instrumental noises or preaching as in refusing to speak that which is written for our learning:

http://www.piney.com/David.Young.Psalm.33.Instrumental.Music.html

David Young's sermon on tv was supposed to be about Revelation 2 but it was a mixture of the utterly false mantra as ANTI church of Christ saying 'YOU are failures.' The implication is that with enough millions of dollars he will fix the Church Growth Cult.

It turns out that the "adherants" numbers have declined while the members have remained fairly flat. The church shrinkage is noted to be among the liberal and not conservative churches. If you spend decades slandering godly people it may mean that people have refused to be SERFS and have begun to follow Christ

David's quote about Psalm 33 is supposed to be taken as "gospel" which most people don't pay attention and those who do have been cultified and dare not offend.

David Young God commanded Instrumental Music: This is not a set of rituals but Psalm 33 invites us to a rich EXPERIENCE with God "Praise God with the harp, shout for joy, INVITATION to give everything I have."

Too bad that you HAVE nothing of value: God does not enter houses built by human hands nor can He be worshipped with the works of human hands or voices.

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David Young Refuting Christ in ALL of the prophets part 2

September 2 2015, 11:22 AM 

From the SERPO or musical enchanter(ess) in the Garden of Eden whom Christ called "the singing and harp-playing prostitute in the garden" to the REVIVAL of the Babylon Mother of harlots (Rev 17) whose priests are "lusted after fruits" the same as in Amos 8 and Paul in Galatians 5, rhetoricians, singers, instrument players and ALL craftsmen (parasites) are to be CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

http://www.piney.com/Galatians.5.Music.Witchcraft.html

The instruments and women exercising authority as "erotic and murderous" are never the primary SIN: rather they are ALWAYS the Mark that Jesus has visited and removed the lamps OR seven spirits of knowledge as the Menorah along with anyone who pretends to usurp Christ's role as mediator-intercessor. THIS IS THE SWAN SONG of all civilized societies.

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Habakkuk part 2

September 3 2015, 8:05 PM 

David Young and all of the theologians who did not learn Bible because it was not available at any cost.

The Spirit OF Christ breathed (spirit) into the Prophets and Apostles. A Church of Christ has a ONE PIECE PATTERN to build or EDUCATE the DISCIPLES (not religionists) upon the Prophets and Apostles.

Christ defines His future Sabbath or REST which was never a day of worship both inclusively and exclusively in the prophets. Peter said that the prophets were made more more perfect by Jesus Christ and the Apostles as eye-- and ear-- witnesses left us a MEMORY. That interpreted Prophecy as the PATTERN for REST cannot be private interpreted meaning "further expounded." There is no role and no dole for anyone to speak their OWN WORDS as outlawed by Christ in Isaiah 58 after commanding the disciples NOT to pay for the free water of the WORD in Isaiah 55. The WORD is the Logos as the regulative principle: this is violently repudiated by the new "progressive preachers" trying to lead you back to the Babylon Pattern.

I will post the Hacking against Churches of Christ by David by showing that in spite of the Stone-Campbell movement trying to steal churches to make them instrumental, the membership numbers are about the same. If you decry the sale of the property of the old purple hairs then blame city churches for making their property into a WORLDLY institution attracting the younger people to the city. This is the Go demand turned upside down. Here is a continuation of some Habakkuk which is the Spirit OF Christ:

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More Jabs from Job into the heart of the viper race.

January 25 2016, 12:51 PM 

There probably is no "infiltrate and divert" or has Grace telling them to lie to God and about God, and collect monies INTENDED to be diverted other than those wanting to be popular with the WORLD and become rich and famous. They all say with a "straight" face that God authorized or commanded instrumental-trinitarian "worship" while those who worship God IN Spirit (a place) and IN Truth (the Word) are spiritually too reverent to join in the antics of those with a WORLD VIEW: we hear of people obeying the command to come out of her or divorce her.

Heb. 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved [rock CCM],
let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably
with reverence and godly fear
Heb. 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

THERE ARE MANY PASSAGES WHICH ASSOCIATE THE PROSPEROUS enaged in musical rejoicing (outlawed for the Church in the wilderness] which is the MARK or PROOF that "they do not intend to SPEAK or seek knowledge of God's Ways (Road, course of life, pattern)

In Job those who PROSPERED did not know the SOURCE of their prosperity. Job speaks of the fertility rituals (the Cain Sect). Their children dance, take the timbrel and harp and rejoice at the sound of the organ.

THEREFORE they say unto God, Depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways. Job 21:14


What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? and what PROFIT should we have, if we pray unto him? Job 21:15


Job makes a sharp distinction between the ALMIGHTY of the pagans the only ALMIGHTY as the LORD or Jehovah.

Job 12:2 No doubt but ye are the people, and wisdom shall die with you.
Job 12:3 But I have understanding as well as you; I am not inferior to you: yea, who knoweth not such things as these?
Job 12:4 I am as one mocked of his neighbour, who calleth upon God, and he answereth him: the just upright man is laughed to scorn.


The vocal or instrumental PLAY of the trinitarians still worshiping the golden callf with the same meaning of PSALLO derived from the SOP fed Judas:

h7832. sachaq, saw-khak´; a primitive root; to laugh (in pleasure or detraction); by implication, to play:—deride, have in derision, laugh, make merry, mock(-er), play, rejoice, (laugh to) scorn, be in (make) sport
h7833. q shachaq, shaw-khak´; a primitive root; to comminate (by trituration or attrition):—beat, wear.

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This is the same MOCKING by JUDAS prophesied in Psalm 41.

Job 12:5 He that is ready to slip with his feet is as a lamp despised in the thought of him that is at ease.
Job 12:6 The tabernacles of robbers prosper, and they that provoke God are secure; into whose hand God bringeth abundantly.
Job 12:7 But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
Job 12:8 Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
Job 12:9 Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the LORD hath wrought this? v
Job 12:10 In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the BREATH of all mankind.
Job 12:11 Doth not the ear try WORDS? and the mouth taste his meat?


Job said that the ANSWER the musical idolaters is from Jehovah :

Job 28:28 And unto man he said,
Behold, the fear of the LORD, that is wisdom;
and to depart from evil is understanding.

 
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The Kairos Church Planting Plot: Kairos demon son.

January 27 2016, 11:59 AM 

"Dave" says Ken,I'd pay you good money if you did all your posts that way.

http://www.piney.com/MailCoreSinging.html

Dave references an old "orphan" paper I have never updated. However, it resulted from a "minimal" look at Scripture and recorded history which claims that Satan was the source of "vocal or instrumental rejoicing" intending to silence the voice of God. The Spirit OF Christ defines the serpent as "Lucifer, the singing and harp-playing prostitute." Serpo or Herpo or Nachash in fact defines s "musical enchanter". That was prophesied to be repeated in the end or KAIROS time meaning just the right time to "infiltrate and deceive" by angels of light.

Jude quoting The Book of Enoch:

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares,
who were before of old ordained to this condemnation,
ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness,
and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they
have gone in the way of Cain, and
[Cain is derived from a musical note or MARK]
ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and
perished in the gainsaying of Core.

The paper quotes:Trust a 70 year old student of the Bible, Stephen: THERE IS NO MUSICAL WORD OR CONCEPT CONNECTED WITH THE COLLECTIVE WORSHIP OF A SPIRIT GOD. Trust an 85 year old man that nothing has changed since the beast people worshipped the serpent or the musical enchanter-ess.

That was written just after the "return of the prodigal son" trained by uncle and supported by elder father and elder father in law. They decided that after the new property was built (that purpose-driven plot) to out their hidden agenda: they refuted everything the historic church has defended and decided that "unity in diversity" meant that they should not fellowship the "country" churches but fellowship the instrumentalists. After failing with the over 300 attendance shrinking to bellow 100 they moved their operations to another county and began practicing that which they denied they were promoting. This was Promise Keepers, Jubile and the Purpose Driven cult. That is now the Kairos Church Planting Plot run by a kid I knew in Seattle. They do not grasp that "unity in diversity" is promoted by those Paul said were LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE. The KAIROS plotters, like Judas, may not know that KAIROS is the demon (spirit) son of Zeus and Kairos Time as Just the right time to mount an attack. The DAUGHTER or SATTELITE churches will not remain faithful to the MOTHER but will consume HER.

Rev. 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short KAIROS.


In Greek mythology, Caerus or Kaerus (Greek: Καιρός, Kairos) was the personification of opportunity, luck and favorable moments. He was shown with only one lock of hair. His Roman equivalent was Occasio or Tempus. Caerus is the youngest child of Zeus. Caerus and Fortuna became lovers after Caerus neglected to overthrow his father as everyone thought he would.

Kairos TIME for; Downward Sword, tirade, Fall, but also, grave, serious, Trauma, wound, hurt, intent to murder. [3. rarely in good sense, good luck, happy issue, Making Haste, zeal for the conflicting arguments. The city is mine too, not yours alone. Time to settle the feud. mely circumstances, opportunities to fight battles,

That was fifteen years ago and I still cannot find a remote hint that any kind of music has any role to play IFFEN you graspe that the godly Jews RESTED on thee REST DAY while the Civil-Military-Clergy complex who enslaved the working classes could POLLUTE the Sabbath because they had already been abandoned.

school (n.1) Look up school at Dictionary.com "place of instruction," Old English scol, from Latin schola "intermission of work, leisure for learning; learned conversation, debate; lecture; meeting place for teachers and students, place of instruction; disciples of a teacher, body of followers, sect," from Greek skhole "spare time, leisure, rest ease; idleness; that in which leisure is employed; learned discussion;" also "a place for lectures, school;" originally "a holding back, a keeping clear," from skhein "to get" (from PIE root *segh- "to hold, hold in one's power, to have;" see scheme (n.)) + -ole by analogy with bole "a throw," stole "outfit," etc.


The HOUSE of the LORD includes the "one another" or the laity: it is EXCLUSIVE of Priests or Levites OR any staff beyond and Apt elder who can read and lead the discussion--free of charge.

Jesus issued TWO DIRECT COMMANDMENTS for those BURDEN LADED BY BURDEN LADERS.
Come OUTSIDE the masses to Rest
And LEARN OF ME.

That defines the singular pattern for the Church of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness which PREACHED whatever they had from Moses by READING it for comfort and doctrine. OUTLAWING vocal or instrumental rejoicing or rhetoric which is the ALARM left to MARK FOR AVOIDANCE those latter day Jews who are not true Jews.

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Regulative Principle; Psalms, Hymns, Spiritual Songs

January 28 2016, 1:03 PM 

Belying those trying to "infiltrate and divert" your property into any kind of musical performance flowed out of the Jewish-Catholic-Lutheran thread although Martin Luther understood Romans 15 to exclude any performance arts. Churches of Christ were never 'united' with any instrumental group other than fraternal feelings destroyed when the Disiples rejected the Regulative Principle which is Anti-Christian.

Those who insist that the REST of Jesus where HE conducts SCHOOL should be dominated by the ACT of singing based on Ephesians and Colossians Purpose Driven to replace the "that which is written for our learning" with Non or even ANTI Scriptural songs as an ACT of worship which by definition worships the song writers and song performers.

If you believe that Scripture is all DARKNESS needing a human to claim that "a" spirit gives them the real LIGIT (postmodernism, witchcraft, spiritual formation) then Scripture defines you as having a WORLD VIEW, the Kosmos or the ecumenical meaning the reign of Satan. Jesus doesn't pray for those OF the World and God hides from the wise, sophists marked as performance based hired speakers, singers, instrument players or a CLAQUE of clappers to give futile aid and comfort.

The command to SPEAK that which is written is the ACTIVE VERBE while ODE or hymn non Biblical texts is the OPPOSITE of SPEAK and are therefore left IN the heart or silent. Paul said that the converted Jews worshipped IN THE SPIRIT in contrast to IN the FLESH. REFUTING the Regulative Principle is defined as ANTI-Chritian.

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Irenaeus.Refutes.Trinity II.1

January 29 2016, 12:13 PM 

Trinitarians say that Jesus WAS God: Jesus says that He was the SON of the One God the Father. Paul wants both men and women to sit down and be silent during the PREACHING of the WORD by READING the Word. The Driving Purpose was that "all might be SAFE and come to a knowledge of the truth.

The men are warned against letting orge or an ORGY break out which would be marked by what Jesus called hypocrites: speakers, singers, instrument players neither intending to teach that which has been taught nor obeying it.

The women were silenced because in all of the "silence" passages women were held to be the madness-driven speakers for the gods and collectors of tithes-never in the kingdom.

John said that anyone who did not accept that ONE FATHER GOD and one Son or Lord is marked as ANTICHRIST. The mark is certain when anyone violates the command to "use one mind and one mouth to speak that which is written for out LEARNING: that one piece PATTERN which by definition WILL be in a School of Christ where we Rest.

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Irenaeus.II.XXX.9

January 29 2016, 8:51 PM 

God says that He is not a man nor the son of man: shall we correct Him and say BUT, you have become A man.

Jesus says that God is a SPIRIT or SPIRIT.
A Spirit does not have flesh and bones.
Jesus said that he was a MAN and the SON OF MAN with flesh and bones.
That means that He is not God but the Son of God.
Jesus is the image of God speaking the Word, Logos or Regulative principle which outlaws everything beyond teaching that which has been taught.

The LU H. Leo Boles invented the three person trinity and John Mark Hicks says that they are three centers of consciousness able to EAT with us while we BURN the Fat in a Lord's Supper with Jubilation.

The Latin defines DESPISING the Word of God or claiming that He authorizes something He did not as blaspheming the Holy Spirit OF God who defined the REST of Jesus both inclusively and exclusively: Sabbath or Paul means STOP anything not involved in PREACHING the Word by READING the Word for Comfort and Doctrine. Any extension beyond that assembly is defined as a cult as in Purpose Driven or Kairos--the demon or spirit son of Zeus as the god in the Jerusalem temple. And Jesus calls literaly Jerusalem SODOM.

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