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Overland Park Church of Christ, Overland Park, KS

July 16 2010 at 4:21 PM
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Our church now has an Elder designated as a Spiritual Director. His job is to counsel members how to experience a deeper walk with God through use of Contemplative prayer/lifestyle. He trained under Randy Harris and Rhonda Lowry. In December 2009, we had a Centering Prayer Saturday to teach congregants how to practice Contemplative Prayer. Recently, we offered a Bible study by Leonard Sweet- author of Quantum Spirituality- a highly mystical book. One of our Ladies leaders just trained at Pepperdine and is deeply involved in Contemplative. Many members have left for more conservative churches. It leaves me heartbroken to see my once Scripture-based church, turn away from Christ to follow this heresy. Please pray for those deceived to turn back from this road of destruction.

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Ken Sublett
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Witchcraft always points to the effeminate.

July 17 2010, 11:12 AM 

Here is some of the witchcraft brought to Lipscomb Universities by the Lowery's
John Mark Hicks has further identified Lipscomb with the Nashville defeating the Texas restoration which defends instrumental music, women in leadership, millennium theories etc.

Summer 2009 and CHURCH COUNCIL

Richard Foster and Gnostic Mysticism

John York and Rubel Shelly on Streams of Living Waters.

Noting the unnatural rush to "Spiritual Formation" as the latest fad:

The realization of this may be what is reflected in the current mass abandonment of the exclusiveness of Christianity that is going on among Western Christians now, especially in its academic centers. Why should one insist on the exclusiveness of Christianity if all it is is one more cultural form? But let the reality of Christian spiritual formation come to its fullness, and exclusiveness will take care of itself. If the homosexual, the witch and the warlock, the Buddhist and the Muslim, can truly walk in a holiness and power equal to that of Jesus Christ and devoted followers, there is nothing more to say. But Christ himself, and not Christianity as a form of human culture, is the standard by which 'we' as well as 'they' are to be measured (Acts 17:31). Dallas Willard

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Please define "contemplative."

August 25 2010, 12:31 PM 

I would appreciate someone defining "contemplative" for me, because I am assuming it is a form of "contemplate" which means to view or consider with continued attention, to meditate on. From that definition, contemplative prayer would seems to be a good thing; but I am sure that such is not considered the case, especially if it is denounced on this site.

So, please explain.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: Please define "contemplative."

August 25 2010, 3:07 PM 

It means different things to different people but generally involves "exercises" calculated to make mysticall connected. Something like sanctified LSD.

However, God said that the "imagination of man is only evil continually." Therefore, whatever comes out of your somewhat deranged mind is your own imagination.

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