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SIMONY and PARASITES part A + B Deipnosophist Part A + B

May 24 2014 at 3:14 PM
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Pure Religion insists on IMPURE worship.

http://www.piney.com/Pure.Religion.and.Defiled.Worship.html

When we SPEAK we are commanded to speak the ORACLES OF GOD: the Word only. However, when we serve (on our own) we are to use the talent we have. That defines the two arenas of the believer's life.

The Church or Assembly in all of its Biblical descriptions meat once a week: that was enough if you are a Christian group and listen to and learn the Word of God (only). In the paganism of Spiritual Formation including Lectio Divina from the Mother church you are to read JUST ENOUGH of the Bible to get that magic word. Then you are to enter into centering prayer (witchcraft) and a spirit person will give you the TRUE message from God. However, lectio was used of the LECTIONS or the Portions of Scripture which were used as a teaching platform. Divina contrary to being sorcery is the DIVINE WORD so that the Word is PREACHED by being READ and what God wants you to know comes only through His gift of the "organs" of light and sound.

James limited PURE RELIGION to that arena where we served beyond the 'token' ministry of an institution. By definition, there must be and IMPURE RELIGION. IMPURE is what is called WORSHIP SERVICES where the LAWS of Rhetoric, singing, playing or acting are USED: this is the only meaning of LEGALISM. The Assembly is where the communication path is FROM God TO the disciples: this is the Bible's definition of Worship. If you get angry when RELIGION is defined then too bad.

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Pure Religion and Defiled Worship Part A + B

May 25 2014, 4:48 PM 

Heaven help them they work REALLY hard not believing that simply being A School of Jesus Christ is the only "burden" Jesus laid on use once He put down the laded burdens (music of the hypocrites ezekiel 30,) and taxes not in time of war. However, the meaning of LEGALISM is defined clearly in the Greek text: it demands that rhetoric, singing, playing instruments, acting or dancing MUST be performed by specific laws. A preacher will never be rich and famous and beloved unless he knows how to manipulate your mind. A religious music performer will have had years of training, rehearsing, performing worship and critiquing their "performance." The WEAPON of the legalists is to say that "God did not say that I could not."

For true evangelists willing to get hurt by religionists, you have to understand the warning of Jesus when you try to post WHAT IS FACT which often conflicts with WHAT I PLAN TO DO. That's fine: I get my "extreme discipleship" done from my computer without being collectivized into a cult to make me a disciple of the discipler who can't read the whole context. And do not get my mind scrambled with "sanging."

Pure Religion is what we do with the talent God has given us: that is not related to contributing my token to a church group usually operated by non-clergy who work themselves to death.

The command for IF WE SPEAK then the inclusive-exclusive RESOURCE is the Word of God. You have 168 hours a week and you and gather to sing, play, clap and as recorded history notes abuse your emotional health and shut down your spiritual or rational MIND required to hear the LOGOS which is the RATIONAL DISCOURSE OF GOD. Logos is never a people.

A discussion of pure religion is defined by the LOGOS or Regulative Principle which is INCLUSIVE of speaking that which is written for our learning and EXCLUSIVE of rhetoric, singing, playing instruments, acting or dancing or clapping.

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Pure Religion and Defiled Worship Part C

May 28 2014, 8:56 PM 

Paul said that Christ gave the gift of APT elders for the church: He gave EVANGELISTS who cannot be LOCATED evangelists holding legalistic worship rituals with the LOGOS-outlawed preacher's tales, rhetoric, singing, playing instruments or acting. The MARK of an APT elder is that his first duty is to EJECT the cunning craftsmen or sophists. Jesus said that God HIDES from the wise or Sophists and that is why they have no alternative if they want to ride on the Widow's backs is to fabricate and prevaricate. Paul warned that they are not just Biblically illiterate but that THEY LIE IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.

They lie about God and to God and they LIE in Ambush to take souls captive. AMBUSH is a musical style by the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites as the legalistic PATTERNS for all musical performance.

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Fleecing the Lambs to Feed the Goats

June 3 2014, 8:41 PM 

As God BREATHED and Jesus SPOKE the Word without measure most often means WITHOUT METER. God knew that men set their lies to melodies and even there was no tuneful singing. So, He BROKE the knee caps of the men following the Judas Patternism.

In the same way Jesus PAID it all including the temple tax because children of a king do not pay religious taxes. He protected Believers by telling us NOT to pay for the Water of the Word. He denounced rhetoricians, singers and instrument players as scribes and pharisees. He commanded that the Word be PREACHED by being READ for Comfort and Doctrine.

A School of Christ has NO PROGRAMS requiring taking PRIVATE money and putting it into the COLLECTIVE: Community church defined by Rubel Shelly defines COMMUNE.

The only example is a gift which Corinth VOLUNTEERED to send to those STARVING to death and Paul said THIS IS NOT A COMMANDMENT.

SO, the MARK of a Church or School of Christ gets in out of the rain by GIFTS and a LAW destroys the GIFT principle.

If you are passing the plate and telling them about the LAW OF GIVING you are lying primarily because YOU want other people's money so that YOU can call in the Purpose Driven Cult STAFF so that you can PRETEND WORK all week and make the simpletons think you are an EVANGELISTS: something like a "located traveling salesman" with no requirement to make sales.

Here is what all recorded history calls DEFILED RELIGION:

Lenski, Commentary

"Each member is to deposit WITH HIMSELF each Sunday the amount of his gift for that week and preserve it as a store or treasure. The participle completes the idea of the main verb: 'let him lay by by treasuring up'

"...Each member is to keep the growing amount 'BY HIM,' IN HIS OWN HOME and is NOT to deposit it with the church at once. The probable reason for this advice is the fact that at this early date the churches supervised by Paul were not yet organized to the extent of having official treasurers..."


Albert Barnes

"Let him lay up AT HOME, treasuring up as he has been prospered. The Greek phrase, 'by himself,' means, probably, the same as at home. Let him set it apart; let him designate a certain portion; let him do this by himself, when he is at home, when he can calmly look at the evidence of his prosperity."

Foy E. Wallace a conservative preacher

"Money is not sacramental and giving is not a sacrament to be 'instituted' alongside the Lord's Supper as 'a part of the worship.' It was not so instituted in the New Testament and had no such place in any New Testament church. It simply belongs to the duty of liberality, performed daily as a temporary practice of the first church at Jerusalem, in Acts 2 and Acts 4:37--and it was later ordered by Paul in Galatian and Corinthian churches for convenience and dispatch, as a ready means to an end...(it does not) mean that giving is an institution of worship beside the Lord's Supper for which thanks should be offered." (Wallace, The Gospel for Today, p. 554).

 
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The ACapella Plot of the Goat stealing Lambs

June 6 2014, 12:25 PM 

Why isn't female "praise teams" leading and adorning the worship still ACapella singing. A capella points to the pope's castrated Opry singers. They sang ORGANUM but they sang IN the Sistine Chapel. Chapel derives from a General's goat skin CAPE: he split it and made one tent for Jesus and the other into a CHAPEL. With all of the goatish false teaching you missed reading the Bible to discover that there is no command, example or remote inference of congregational singing with or without instruments. The Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites prophesied with noise meaning that they were soothsayer-sorcerers. They STOOD IN RANKS under the king and commanders of the Army: the command was to EXECUTE any godly person or even a Levite who came NEAR any of their "holy" things or into any holy place. Of Course, from Acts 7 we understand that the LEVITE PATTERNISTS only make instrumental noise AFTER God turned them over to Babylonianism.

It has been noted that the GOAT SINGERS have done a slick job of inventing ACappella by which they mean OUR WORSHIP PERFORMANCE team. They make most people think that this is either "a capella" or congregational singing WITHOUT INSTRUMENTS. Therefore, the Alpha Goat mounts the old Cadillac without wheels and convinces those they have MADE DUMB BEFORE THE SLAUGHTER that if WE perform in our Show and Tell that is just what we have always done. Well, you can change the meaning of words like "sing" but it does not change either the Biblical Text or the historic words they jerked out to suit their purposes. For instance the Kairos Church Planting scheme with mothers hatching daughter churches won't let themselves or you know that KAIROS is part of the goatish breed involved in the tragedy singing to jerk your tears and snatch your purse.

The Greeks knew Magadizing which was the children and women chanting one octave above the men. The ORGANUM of the Castrated opry singers imported into the Sistine Chapel (named after a goat-skin chapel). Wile it was sung IN THE CHAPEL the style was ORGANUM or a pseudo Pipe Organ.

As you can see, once you start boiling the frog it is pretty hard to keep him from getting well-cooked. I am reading some old Fiji Cannibalism history and I was reminded of preachers with defunct spirits would CONSUME their own with a worse fate.

It is the testimony of history that religionism as in performing roles of rhetoric, singing, playing, acting or dancing MUST be performed by MALE actors or CLERGY but they must perform the role of women. The naked dance of David is defined as "performing the role of women" and he wore the Ephod which was a let's pretend Babylonian Vulva still seen with the Pope's head sticking through it. The male FALSETTOS (CCM) lost out when the exiled Pope heard the castrated Opry singers in France. ORGANUM is the style of singing heard in the PLACE of the Sistine Chapel.

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Religious has always but more rapidly devolved into what history notes as a binding at the lips of Religion and Sexuality. They even boast about USING women.

The image above shows that the goal is to build up a tension and then relax it. The Laded Burden Jesus repudiated is defines as the "spiritual anxiety created by religious ceremonial" to which Jesus said the kingdom does not come. We have noted the Capella, Cantus, Delicatus connection in history. Carol Wimber of Fuller and the Vineyard PROMOTES the new praise singing to create a sexual-like climax JUST BEFORE the last act of worship "Giving of Substance."

That is why there is no Biblical or historical material you can plead to being a New Testament Christian. Jesus still asks "could you not tarry with me for one hour. No: they even SAY that the kids are exposed to music 24/7 so WE gotta give them music instead of the Word.


 
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Re: The ACapella Plot of the Goat stealing Lambs

June 6 2014, 2:16 PM 

These musical fragments show that Greek music was predominantly vocal, although instrumental pieces were sometimes presented.

The music was homophonic; i.e., it consisted of single melodic lines. One of the most important compositions was the dithyramb, a poetic text set to music and sung by a chorus in honour of Dionysus.

Ancient Greek was a pitched language, so melody had to be an outgrowth of the natural inflections of the spoken language.

Greek vowels had long and short values that corresponded to long and short notes in the musical settings. Thus musical rhythms were derived from metric forms, and melodic movement was governed by the natural rise and fall of the text.

Ancient Greece appears never to have had a developed instrumental art. Percussion, brass, wind, and string instruments were all played, but the two primary instruments were the aulos, a double-reed pipe that accompanied the chorus in the dithyramb, and the kithara, a hand-held lyre used to accompany solo songs.

The exact nature of the accompaniment style is unknown, but since no evidence of counterpoint or harmony appears in contemporary accounts, the accompaniment probably played a version of the melodic line, occasionally adding two-note plucked chords.


We have noted may examples of comments that complicated music INTENDS to confuse or even hurt people. In the following LAWS of Plato, if it would be impossible to LEARN MUSIC if the voice and single plucked string were different, how could any godly person think that they are NOT hindering learning (what a disciple does) with outrageously loud and complex singing with or without instruments.

Plat. Laws 7.812c regarding rhythms and harmonic compositions, in order that when dealing with musical representations of a good kind or a bad, by which the soul is emotionally affected, they may be able to pick out the reproductions of the good kind and of the bad, and having rejected the latter, may produce the other in public, and charm the souls of the children by singing them, and so challenge them all to accompany them in acquiring virtue by means of these representations.

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Very true.

Plat. Laws 7.812d Athenian
So, to attain this object, both the lyre-master and his pupil must use the notes of the lyre, because of the distinctness of its strings, assigning to the notes of the song notes in tune with them;1 but as to divergence of sound and variety in the notes of the harp, when the strings sound the one tune and the composer of the melody another, or when there results a combination of low and high notes, of slow and quick time, of sharp and grave,
i.e. the notes of the instrument must be in accord with those of the singer's voice. The tune, as composed by the poet, is supposed to have comparatively few notes, to be in slowish time, and low down in the register; whereas the complicated variation, which he is condemning, has many notes, is in quick time, and high up in the register. (England.)
Plat. Laws 7.812e and all sorts of rhythmical variations are adapted to the notes of the lyre,no such complications should be employed in dealing with pupils who have to absorb quickly, within three years the useful elements of music. For the jarring of opposites with one another impedes easy learning; and the young should above all things learn easily, since the necessary lessons imposed upon them are neither few nor small,which lessons our discourse will indicate in time as it proceeds. So let our educator regulate these matters in the manner stated. As regards the character of the actual tunes and words which the choir-masters ought to teach,

 
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Everett Ferguson: the ACappella Lie is a stalking horse for instruments.

June 20 2014, 7:24 PM 

ACappella has been best defined by Everett Ferguson. However, give him credit before computers but making ACappella into a CULT permits him to claim or extrapolate all forms of SINGING as WORSHIP from solos to group singers. During this time ORGANUM in the PLACE of the Capella has been puffed up so that simpletons tolerate any outrage of "performers" as long as they include SINGING. The attackers on this forum say that if you SING then adding instruments does not stop the SINGING. The earliest Christian Church attackers says that YOU can sing and make melody in your heart without preventing others to sing, play, clap, shout, hug or kiss at the same time.

I tell you absolutely: The scholars who claim to be your THOUGHT LEADERS do not have a remote clue about the meaning of the ASSEMBLY (ekklesia, synagogue). Nor can they grasp the meaning of PURE THRESKIA as opposed to IMPURE THRESKIA nor the meaning of WORSHIP. See how 'scholarship' at its best fails to read and sell THE REST OF THE STORY.

http://www.piney.com/Everett.Ferguson.Congregational.Singing.in.Early.Church.html

When you read the rest of the story you will discover that all musical forms were imposed by the MONKISH communities from Pagan and Jewish babble gender-bent clergy who fleeced the lambs to live in idle meditation as work and draft dodgers. Places like Pepperdine, ACU and LU have REVEALED themselves by what they call SPIRITUAL FORMATION: you can get a PhDuh in "Spiritual Formation" which is blasphemy. They use MONKISH "scholars" and women to lead you into Ignatian Meditations where all of the meditations include the BLESSED MOTHER OF GOD. Terms like Kairos,Ethos or Renovare are defined by Revelation 17 where the Babylon Mother of Harlots has unleashed the "lusted after fruits" as self-speakers, singers, instrument players and "grinders" meaning prostitutes. John calls them SORCERERS and says the will be (are) cast alive into the lake of fire.

http://www.piney.com/MuChants.html

http://www.piney.com/MuCandles.html

"Candles from the Catholic Encyclopedia: The word candle (candela, from candeo, to burn) was introduced into the English language as an ecclesiastical term, probably as early as the eighth century. It was known in classical times and denoted any kind of taper in which a wick, not uncommonly made of a strip of papyrus, was encased in wax or animal fat.

We need not shrink from admitting that CANDLES, like incense and lustral water, were commonly employed in pagan worship and in the rites paid to the DEAD.

But the Church from a very early period took them into her service, just as she adopted many other things indifferent in themselves, which seemed proper to enhance the splendour of religious ceremonial.

We must not forget that most of these adjuncts to worship, like MUSIC, LIGHTS, perfumes, ablutions, floral decorations, canopies, fans, screens, bells, vestments, etc. were not identified with any idolatrous cult in particular; they were COMMON TO ALMOST ALL CULTS.

 
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Buying-Selling degrees, selling sermons and songs defines PARASITES PART A

July 17 2014, 7:23 PM 

A "thought leader" of the TRANSISTION of once Bible Colleges to the Instrumental Sect boasts of exercising PROPHETIC roles to train "advanced degrees" to act as CHANNELERS to go out and FACILITATE (manipulate) non-instrumental (legalists) into making the change to the Instrumental Sect. That is why he and a small band are used by the NACC (not representing individual members but the clergy) to TRANSISTION churches into the instrumental sect. This outrage happened almost exactly 100 years after the first PSALLO attach in 1878: this led to the GREAT LEAP in 1906 to get even with the Churches of Christ for not joining their denomination.

The great CONCLAVES of those involved is a crystal clear CABAL.

This was just in time to OUT the mark of the BEAST (a new style of music or Satyric drama). The Satyrs were/acting acting out the CAPPELLA drama. The IMAGE of the BEAST is a song or enchantment REPRESENTING itself as the WORD of God. The MARK is the performance of all of the hypocritical arts and crafts such as actually participating or endorsing the INSTRUMENTAL HOSTILE ATTACK.

The word PARASITE is Greek and DEFINES Ministers and Staff who eat up the Widow's living making long prayers which are HYMNS they composed. They use the BIBLE only as a red herring because they have no intention of teaching that which HAS BEEN taught and as it has been taught before their end-time prophesied delusion.

Here is the definitions as the KEY TO KNOWLEDGE the Parasites and their dupes do not want anyone to grasp: the meaning of Music from mystery is "to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter": it was prophesied and fulfilled that Messiah would be MOCKED with music which was the Scribes and Pharisees' way of TRIUMPHING over Jesus and the WORD. The LEADER was Judas whose bag carried the mouth pieces (reeds) of wind instruments. SOP and PSALLO are the MARKS.

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Universities and SIMONY of PARASITES Part B added

July 20 2014, 11:31 AM 

Preaching for Pay is Simony. The only ROLE in An Assembly of Christ is Teaching that which HAS BEEN taught: going beyond being A School of Christ invites, in Paul's words the MANY, to become Parasites.Robert Ballard spreads hate against ANTI instrumentalists. We have added PARASITES.

http://www.piney.com/Robert.Ballard.Are.Instrumental.Performers.Parasites.html

http://www.piney.com/Preaching.for.Pay.and.Simony.html

PART A: We have discussed needing more clarification of what I call "A Cappella as the Mark of the Beast" but my energy was spent on soccer. No one sings A Capella but a form of pseudo instrumental music. ACappella and Zoe (Eve, Evah) began as an effort to mark out churches of Christ which have always resisted the idea of any kind of hypocritical performance and making you PAY FOR IT TOO. Perhaps the first apostates began by taking my "investment with the Lord" in Seattle: they came to Nashville to have the ZOE and ACAPPELLA people show them how to boil the frogs and steal the property and church family.

The subject of The Doctors of the Law whom Jesus warned "take away the key to knowledge" and lade burdens may provide a foundation for the ACappella Fella Soul Snatchers.

The BURDENS that the Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, laded on the people came from the Babylonian Talmud. Jesus taught and acted parables to debunk all of the religious practices which were Egyptian or Babylonian to which God abandoned the Israelites at Mount Sinai BECAUSE of the instrumental idolatry of the Egyptian trinity.

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The Deipnosophist Parasite Part A with Biblical introduction

July 21 2014, 12:43 PM 

In the Greek literature the operatives of making animal sacrifices (which God did not command but imposed) are called PRIESTS and PARASITES.

A HERETIC is the Priests who Lifts up the lambs to cut their throats. The Parasites makes instrumental NOISE to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter: He RAISES up their anxiety so that they cannot resist.

Athenaeus wrote the Deipnosophist

Tom Burgess of the NACC quoted this to PROVE that PSALLO commanded him/them to use 'instrumental music.'

Tom Burgess quotes the part in red: 1. Philip also was in these matters somewhat more petty and childish than became him, since he had acquired his knowledge late in life.

Thus they tell the tale that Philip once argued with a certain harp-player about the technique of his instrument, and even thought he was confuting the man; but the harp-player smiled gently and said,

"God forbid, your Majesty, that you should ever fall so low as to know more of these matters than I."

2. But Alexander, knowing well in what matters he should be merely a spectator and listener, and in what he should play the chief rĂ´le, trained himself.....


BUT, Philip was embarassed that Alexender could PLUCK the harp so skillfully: [The UNQUOTED rest of the story] Thus they tell the tale that Philip once argued with a certain harp-player about the technique of his instrument, and even thought he was confuting the man; but the harp-player smiled gently and said, "God forbid, your Majesty, that you should ever fall so low as to know more of these matters than I."

Deipnosophist is a person SKILLED AT TABLE TALK. In other words he is a sophists (speakers, singer, instrument player, actor, sexual partner) who will do anything to get a FREE MEAL. "and the art of successful living prominent about the middle of the fifth century b.c. for their adroit subtle and allegedly often specious reasoning."

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Deipnosophist Part B

July 21 2014, 3:28 PM 

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